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 Ifrit.Darkanaseur
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2011-10-30 11:48:45
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2 Counting offhand.
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By Ragnarok.Stiel 2011-10-31 04:24:35
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Does MKD head whit agi/dex aug still better for inside/outside?
or oce+1 wins outside? also i have shura kabuto +1 whit wsd +3% attk 5 sc dmg +2%. if possible i would like some advice for neck/waist too.Im using cuchulain's belt for outside,and rancor collar for both. Thx in advance ^^
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By Cerberus.Freonski 2011-10-31 21:17:46
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Would say MKE inside, Oce+1 outside, yes Rancor for both, and waist I like Ang belt. Just my 2 cents.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-11-01 00:10:43
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Outside, low or capped dDEX: Shura +1 > Ocelomeh +1 > MKD
Outside, high but uncapped dDEX: Ocelomeh +1 > Shura +1 > MKD
Inside: Shura +1 > MKD > Ocelomeh +1

Rancor both inside and out unless you have capped critrate without it (RR/GH/Apoc + Innin for example). Anguinus is your best bet in and outside Abyssea unless cRatio is capped or you're gaining critrate from the DEX on Cuchulain's.
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By Ragnarok.Stiel 2011-11-01 08:43:38
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why shura should pull ahead? it have 3 % wsdmg,mkd in total have 4% dmg,2 % ws 2% for critical,plus mkd have 4 agi 4 dex,shura have str 6 acc 6?
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-11-01 09:28:46
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Ragnarok.Stiel said: »
why shura should pull ahead? it have 3 % wsdmg,mkd in total have 4% dmg,2 % ws 2% for critical,plus mkd have 4 agi 4 dex,shura have str 6 acc 6?
MKD does not have 4% dmg, it only has 2% ws damage. 2% crit dmg is dependant on your crit rate %. Thus unless you have 100% crit rate you wont always benefit from that 2% crit dmg. WS damage is the overall ws damage vs crit dmg is just that, the extra damage on your crits.

You will probably have more crit damage % from atmas/gear thus your 2% will be a smaller increase than an actual 2%. While ws damage is still at a very low state(ie 2%-3%).

4agi is roughly 1~2 base damage, 6str is roughly 1~2 base damage. 4 dex is only good if its in a ddex range. Shura's 6acc provides a small boost for any additional hits. Also Ive seen +dex and +att on Shura +1 augs.
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By Ragnarok.Stiel 2011-11-01 12:30:24
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I see. well my shura have 6 attack and 2% skillchain dmg,but i rarely seen stats on this stupid head,so hard.and im still willing to see str on the haidate as wellXD stupid sucker always give me agi,the one i want for byakko haidate lulz. SE fooling me around.....
Since these new statement,i guess probably i gonna change this damn mkd head again,just wondering what could be usefull for tho.
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By Ragnarok.Stiel 2011-11-07 06:25:58
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Oh btw,i remembered i wanted to ask this,as im still newbie in maths and calculation,but i always wanted to know in a multi hit ws,or in this case the offhand hit,and any hit caused from DA and TA proc,in a ws they are calculated all as 1 ftp right?
I mean HI is a 4.0 ftp ws,but that's only for the main hit,offhand hit and DA TA hits are calculated at 1 ftp,but they are boosted from fstr WSC and Pdif right?
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2011-11-07 09:11:34
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Yes, D+fSTR+WSC*4ftp(+1 per hit and offhand)*pdif
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2011-11-09 00:59:26
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Don't think this has been asked yet, but I'm just curious to know :<

Is Blade: Hi a single or double hit? I understand the offhand counts as a hit but is that worked out with the main hand? Mainly asking if the offhand shares the accuracy boost or not (although I probably won't add accuracy to it if it's the latter, just curious).
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-11-09 01:06:13
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Odin.Dirtyfinger said: »
Don't think this has been asked yet, but I'm just curious to know :<

Is Blade: Hi a single or double hit? I understand the offhand counts as a hit but is that worked out with the main hand? Mainly asking if the offhand shares the accuracy boost or not (although I probably won't add accuracy to it if it's the latter, just curious).

Single hit, acc boost only affects main hit.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2011-11-09 01:14:46
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I see, thanks. I can sleep better now -.-
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By Ragnarok.Baconchips 2011-11-12 11:36:40
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Wilhelm's/Altdorf's inside/out or another earring combo?
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By Asura.Ina 2011-11-12 11:41:43
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Brutal and centaurus earring, inside and out if I'm not mistaken.
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By Sylph.Charandi 2011-11-14 06:35:42
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Would Moonshade Atk+4/TP bonus pull ahead of centaurus earring in any circumstances?
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By Ragnarok.Stiel 2011-11-14 06:59:19
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Since ninja inside should use RR GH AoA you would already sit on a good critical hit rate,especially using rancor collar.
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-11-14 11:38:30
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Seeing as I plan on buying an Oce. Head +1 soon, what augments do you think would be good for MKD head? I was thinking Waltz potency, anything else in mind? Shura head is sorta out of the question for now seeing as I just went 1/15 on the Abj for my MNK mule...
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By Asura.Ina 2011-11-14 11:44:37
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Ragnarok.Nemesio said: »
Seeing as I plan on buying an Oce. Head +1 soon, what augments do you think would be good for MKD head? I was thinking Waltz potency, anything else in mind? Shura head is sorta out of the question for now seeing as I just went 1/15 on the Abj for my MNK mule...
Dex/agl +4 crit/ws +2% if you are making it your WS peice, there is no option for waltz potency, it has waltz delay -2sec but I have a hard time seeing that as being too useful anywhere.
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-11-14 11:51:33
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Asura.Ina said: »
Ragnarok.Nemesio said: »
Seeing as I plan on buying an Oce. Head +1 soon, what augments do you think would be good for MKD head? I was thinking Waltz potency, anything else in mind? Shura head is sorta out of the question for now seeing as I just went 1/15 on the Abj for my MNK mule...
Dex/agl +4 crit/ws +2% if you are making it your WS peice, there is no option for waltz potency, it has waltz delay -2sec but I have a hard time seeing that as being too useful anywhere.
Well with Oce. Headpiece being ahead in both outside situations, I had planned on just sticking with that. Thus making my MKD head not that great anymore. So I was curious if anyone used theirs for anything else worthwhile.
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-11-14 12:02:36
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Asura.Ina said: »
Ragnarok.Nemesio said: »
Seeing as I plan on buying an Oce. Head +1 soon, what augments do you think would be good for MKD head? I was thinking Waltz potency, anything else in mind? Shura head is sorta out of the question for now seeing as I just went 1/15 on the Abj for my MNK mule...
Dex/agl +4 crit/ws +2% if you are making it your WS peice, there is no option for waltz potency, it has waltz delay -2sec but I have a hard time seeing that as being too useful anywhere.
Iirc, the waltz -2 is something that a main dnc would never be without (not to mention extremely useful for nin/dnc).
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By Asura.Ina 2011-11-14 12:06:05
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Ragnarok.Nemesio said: »
Asura.Ina said: »
Ragnarok.Nemesio said: »
Seeing as I plan on buying an Oce. Head +1 soon, what augments do you think would be good for MKD head? I was thinking Waltz potency, anything else in mind? Shura head is sorta out of the question for now seeing as I just went 1/15 on the Abj for my MNK mule...
Dex/agl +4 crit/ws +2% if you are making it your WS peice, there is no option for waltz potency, it has waltz delay -2sec but I have a hard time seeing that as being too useful anywhere.
Well with Oce. Headpiece being ahead in both outside situations, I had planned on just sticking with that. Thus making my MKD head not that great anymore. So I was curious if anyone used theirs for anything else worthwhile.
My bad, read it wrong and thought you said you wern't planning on getting it.
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By camorane 2011-11-17 16:03:25
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Anyone done a test which one is beter light earring with crit+1 rate
or Centaurus Earring.
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By Asura.Oceanlab 2011-11-20 05:29:36
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Still working on getting some agi on byakko's haidate but in the meantime would a 4% crit damage haidate beat ambusher's hose inside aby?
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By Bahamut.Itze 2011-11-20 05:55:40
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Asura.Oceanlab said: »
Still working on getting some agi on byakko's haidate but in the meantime would a 4% crit damage haidate beat ambusher's hose inside aby?
Yes
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By Optixx 2011-11-21 16:57:48
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DEX+5 / Attk +7 / WS DMG +2 or a Shura Kabuto +1.. how would this be for hi?
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2011-11-22 10:42:42
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Asura.Loneshadow said: »
I looked around, these look best for Blade: Hi(correct me where I might be wrong)

Inside

(CritRate+3 ATK+5 STP+2 on Kote)

Outside

(CritDmg+4 AGI+6 on Haidate)

Weapons are your choice, off-hand Kamome inside and Ban outside.

I got hosed in the War thread for posting a higher dDex outside Abyssea set, mostly because the data for dDex and crit rate showed you weren't breaking any tiers in outside content (beyond trash mobs). So basically, don't swap boots or hands when ya go outside. Think Haidate beats ambushers either way though.
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By Roshima 2011-11-29 20:12:05
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Anyone done any testing with Moepapa Medal yet?
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By Ragnarok.Gunit 2011-11-29 20:16:59
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Testing for a hidden effect to make it better then 5% crit rate?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-11-29 20:17:33
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Nothing to test about it.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2011-11-29 22:06:02
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Would Hope Torque or Justiciar's Torque perform better with capped Crit hit rate?
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