Blade: Hi WS Set.

I don't know about Hi, but with dusk +1 hands, haidate may be viable for tp. Assuming you swap usu boots back to Iga+2.

Edit: and if you aren't already, those pants certainly win for outside ws.

How would I change this to make it so it will only do it with 3 or more of those buffs?

bump .-.

finally finished skins and from reading this thread made this set for current Hi set


anwig is str4/agi4/ws acc15/ws dmg2% for Smite/Hi

did some sky last nite to try some augments on byakko
but could prolly just go proc blue with mnk for ambushers quicker then getting right augments

Than*

Anyone have any thoughts about wilhem/Altdorf earrings (combined AGI+8) vs brutal + centauraus in Abyssea with GH, RR, apoc, red curry buns.

Attack+10 just seems meh to me, especially when zerk is up. Maybe Brutal and a AGI+4 earring would be optimal? But then again, when using apoc brutal loses a lot of it's value. I just don't know :(

Edit: is there even an AGI+4 earring, could have sworn there was one, but not finding it on ffxiah atm. Don't have access to ffxi right now to check.

Auster's pearl

Honestly, it depends. I think a lot of people overestimate how close they are to capping cRatio inside Abyssea. If you're using Stalwart's + Zerk with good food and fighting fodder or Visions NMs then yeah, you could rock the AGI earring, but even vs IT Heroes EXP mobs you're probably not capping with just Berserk and 10 attack is generally going to outperform 4 AGI. Similarly, you shouldn't be replacing Brutal unless your WS hitrate is quite low and that's not really an issue inside Abyssea.

I roll 169 plus agility I just traded ambusher hose for the add on pants with 3 percent crit damage and 7 attack. I read earlier that someone said that ambushers would be better and I don't see it. How is 8 agi more going to beat 7 attack and 3 percent more crit when im rolling 4 to 6k ws. If I missed something let me know.

well not sure if topic is dead yet i have read multiple post/talked with people on game and now with the crit hit damage cap removed would cavaros be better then atheling? if not can u give me some details? also is Anguinus Belt better then Shadow belt for WS?

Can you explain this Night, I'm not following.

Are you asking about replacing it if you're acc is low?

My Hi's are rarely missing (yes I know any Hi below 700 damage is a wiff). I guess I just don't see what WS acc has to do with replacing brutal.

Well, assuming you have 95% acc, that's 4.75% chance of landing a double attack. As your acc falls, it'll go down as well. So at 80% acc, you have a 4% chance. You'd still need abysmal accuracy for 4 AGI to beat 5% double attack though.

Isn't that % also further decreased by apoc and already present dbl attack rate (atheling + epona's + /war).

Triple attack, yes. I was just keeping it simple though. Triple attack does devalue DA, and double attack isn't exponential gains on top of that.

Yes, but not by enough for decreasing returns alone to justify swapping out Brutal.

Your mainhand hit isn't going to whiff much, innate acc bonus on first hit of ws. Your other hits don't get that bonus though, so as hitrate decreases multiattack procs will be less and less valuable:

mainhand * 0.95% hitrate + (offhand + DA/TA procs) * hitrate

4.0*0.95+(1+2*0.03+2*0.03+1*0.15+1*0.15)*0.95=5.149
4.0*0.95+(1+2*0.03+2*0.03+1*0.2+1*0.2)*0.95=5.244

Here, Brutal is a 1.85% increase in damage.

4.0*0.95+(1+2*0.03+2*0.03+1*0.15+1*0.15)*0.8=4.936
4.0*0.95+(1+2*0.03+2*0.03+1*0.2+1*0.2)*0.8=5.016

Here, it's 1.62%.

Your base attack on WS outside Abyssea (before multipliers like food/buffs) is around 520 so you're gaining 1.33~1.5% from adding 7 attack (less if no level correction ie old content, more vs new stuff), which comes out behind Brutal in high hitrate scenarios. You'd be looking at a 62-72% hitrate on additional attacks for Aesir to match Brutal.

So my current sets are

Inside:

Outside

Any upgrades other than Hachiryu Sune-ate, Stormsoul Ring? I was also wondering if the "Tonberry's Grudge" torque would beat out Gorget for outside set and maybe the Leonine's Mask instead of Maat's cap? (I'm aware that the answers may already be answered in this thread but I'm far too lazy to go through over 500 comments don't hate me too much D:)

I believe anguinus belt inside would beat out the elemental belt. Also, definitely hope torque for inside.

Does Soil Gorget/Belt still reign supreme in outside situations?

use a counter and compare; i.e
attkbuf=0
if Food
attkbuff+=1
if berserk
attkbuff+=1
if minuet*
attkbuff+=1
if chaos
attkbuff+=1
.....
if attkbuff >= 3
set soilbelt
else
set otherbelt


That would be the logic; you'll need to take a look at the spellcast syntax to make it work.

Why iga earring?

so they can dual wield 1% faster during blade hi

i tried it and tossed them soon after, wasted 13 days of my play time camping 1 NM for set, stick with brutal and centaurus earing its the best combo

while you may see brutal as a waste, it really is not

Anguinus, often Atheling. Iga Dochugappa has its place but it's not for every mob. Qirmiz Tathlum should be in both sets.

yes

depends

I might have it backwards afterall... but i've been using shadow belt inside abyssea, and Anguinus outside abyssea.

Shadow Belt isn't particularly attractive for Hi. I use Anguinus inside Abyssea, don't have enough inventory space to give a ***about WS belt for EP mobs, and either Anguinus or Cuchulain's outside Abyssea depending on which set I'm using at the time.

Alrighty thanks again night, you've helped me a lot on these forums :<

Something like

<if buffactive="Berserk">
<var name="Berserk">1</var>
</if>
<if buffactive="Minuet*">
<var name="Minuet">1</var>
</if>
...

<if advanced=""Berserk"="1" AND "Food"="1" AND "Stalwarts"="1">
<action type="equip" when="Precast">
<waist></waist>
</action>
</if>
<else>
<action type="equip" when="Precast">
<waist></waist>
</action>
</else>


Maybe?

What would be the situations in which you'd want to use Iga Dochu and Leonine? I would've figured that crit rate+ would be one of the "main focus" stats outside of abyss for crit ws.

Leonine is for situations where using DEX on the head slot (Maat's/Aias/Deceit) wouldn't make a significant impact on your critrate. Alternative would be Shura Kabuto (+1) with WSDMG+2% (+3%) and preferably 1-2 other good augments. Iga is for the opposite situation, when you need the DEX to cap critrate. It's potentially critrate+8% if you're in the right dDEX range.

The thing to remember about critrate is that while crits are big and flashy, they're affecting the same equation as plain old boring attack. Atheling is going to give you better results on average if you're not in the dDEX sweet spot.