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By xenomasterkenshin 2011-04-14 14:33:19
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Forgot to add, /war outside always with red curry buns (if it matters any), my gears looks like what mabrook posted (sorry i dont know how to do item sets :<)
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By Diabolos.Megatron 2011-04-14 14:51:31
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i do it naked. becasue i choose not to conform to your ideals of what i should wear, that and i like who when it goes off the light flickers of my hot wet sweaty skin. Just sayin...
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By Brhee 2011-04-18 06:19:24
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I have the +2 WoE katana on my mule and was using Blade: Hi all this week testing setups for when my main finishes Kannagi. I read alot of post talking about Hi doing 3k~4k dmg but I'm having a pretty hard time doing under 4k. Most of my Hi's are 5k+ and my mule isnt amazingly geared for Hi. Just threw together some random AGI gear I had on him.

Floor 100 agi bonnet from Nyzul
Soil Gorget
Suppa / Brutal
Lokis
Seiryu
2x 5 agi rings
aethling
5 agi belt
Iga+2 pants
Af1+1 feet
Q-Tathlum
Squid Sushi
GH/RR/Apoc

Yah this mob is a bit soft but its been like this all week on whatever I fight.



Just a lucky week? Or alot of gimp nins on this thread? I really thought my mule had a complete ***setup and my main will be much much stronger. Was very surprised to see everyone getting such low numbers on this thread.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-04-18 06:29:10
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depends a lot on what you're fighting, if you're doing a lot of level 85 content your numbers will probably be higher than on 90 content.

your mule's gear is pretty good for hi, only really lacking on legs, everything else is fairly minor.
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-04-21 14:28:10
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xenomasterkenshin said:
Questions about sets outside:

Im currently using fire bomblet for both TP/HI outside but thinking on getting a DEX or AGI sachet, but dunno which, think the DEX one would be better to give more crit chances/stable numbers, but wondering really.

Also i use anguinus belt over elemental belt and Byakko haidate over hachiryu, works really well but got the doubt if the elemental belt would be better overall.

Using kannagi/oirandori also, working on gorget as well (gonna get done soon) so just using arctier's in the meantime (i know, lol) but im aiming for the sea torque, think i saw ppl saying it was better than gorget, is it true? torque adds mod, acc/att so prolly is.

thanks.

why not Qirmiz Tathlum?
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By Brhee 2011-04-22 07:12:42
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Pretty sure Tathlum will be best. Use Kamome offhand instead of Oirando and Loki's body to stack up the crit power, and get your atk from food instead of equip maybe (thinking about your belt, I use atheling mantle of course but soil belt or agi belt). Testing torque and gorget and I seem to do better with Gorget. I think if you read the entire thread, someone posted the math to show Gorget wins. Blade: Hi so stable for me @ around 5,000 dmg almost everytime. Peaks of 7k~ and valleys of 4k~ but its really consistent with that weak setup I posted a few post back. I wouldnt use Haidate or Hachi pants either. Ambushers kinda hard for me to get because I do most of my stuff alone but I wont settle for any other pants (on my main).

I know you're talking about outside abyssea but I cant think of anything outside of abys thats actually hard to fight. Every event we've done outside abys has been a complete joke since about lvl 85. Outside I'd use Blade: Jin anyway honestly.

I could be wrong though. I just have the +2 WoE version of the Katana and my mule isn't amazing. Once Brhee actually finishes her Kannagi (this weekend I hope) I expect my numbers to go up by alot.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Makenshi 2011-04-27 11:36:53
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Just started working on my Blade: Hi setup, so far it's pretty decent from stuff I had on hand but needs definate work in the ring area (needs Epona's and +7 AGI ring), I'd like to get Hachiryu Sune-ate but +4 AGI and -1 inventory to me isn't worth what people want for those lol

TP Gear


WS Gear


It's a work in progess though ^..^
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By Fenrir.Fearforever 2011-04-27 12:02:36
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Quetzalcoatl.Makenshi said:
Just started working on my Blade: Hi setup, so far it's pretty decent from stuff I had on hand but needs definate work in the ring area (needs Epona's and +7 AGI ring), I'd like to get Hachiryu Sune-ate but +4 AGI and -1 inventory to me isn't worth what people want for those lol

TP Gear


WS Gear


It's a work in progess though ^..^

I've got a question for you, does the hidden-effect of 2.5x dmg off the Relic work when its in the sub-hand?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-04-27 12:09:51
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Nope. You don't even get the attack+ from it.
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Makenshi 2011-04-27 13:11:33
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Quetzalcoatl.Makenshi said:
So... which level 90 version Katana's WS is better? :o You'd be better off just getting Lithe Boots for your Blade: Hi WS set and calling it a day lol, the extra DEX in Abyssea isn't needed to say the least, but outside Abyssea I'm pretty sure they're better than Hachiryu Sune-Ate; also, Loki's Kaftan for inside Abyssea and outside NIN body+2 is better.
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Nope. You don't even get the attack+ from it.
Wow, that's really really lame.
Blade: Hi definately lol, Blade: Metsu is really inconsistant for a one hit ws that doesn't crit (dmg modifier doesn't proc in ws either) and it's ok outside Abyssea compared to Blade: Jin but it just breaks 1k inside Abyssea and usually does lot less than Blade: Jin XD

Yeah I figured inside Abyssea those boots we're about the same as +1 ninja boots, but I can see where outside they would be a little better.

Yeah you don't get squat by offhanding relic, other than dmg and delay; you used to get stats (no ws though) till they nerfed relic/mythic offhand... which imo is really silly now with magians giving you +20 attack and +9 STR offhand which is more than relics had when they nerfed them; plus the hidden damage modifier only procs around 5% and is hardly noticable anyway, plus Blade: Metsu aftermath is a joke now because it's extremely easy to cap Subtle Blow without where Blade: Hi occasionally deals double damage around 40% I believe (maybe slightly lower) completely blows both the aftermath and hidden damage modifier away and losing para is not a huge deal just need to remember to cast jubaku now... just wish SE would give you the attack offhand only thing worthwhile you lose :P
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Makenshi 2011-04-27 13:55:10
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Either way I think it's some like 10% or so from what I've read.
I could've sworn I read it was higher much higher than that, granted I've only had for a couple days and haven't had a chance to test it much but it seems much higher than 10% to me.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-04-27 14:00:43
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
I really doubt the double damage on Emps are 40% lol >_> it's probably more or less since you're dual wielding the double damage proc is put inputted per attack round and not per hit?

Either way I think it's some like 10% or so from what I've read.

It's like, 40-50% lol..
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By Alexander.Msthief 2011-04-27 16:15:32
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Anecdotal evidence suggests about 25% for me with 100-199% and 50-60% for 300%.
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2011-04-27 16:26:43
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Brhee said:
I have the +2 WoE katana on my mule and was using Blade: Hi all this week testing setups for when my main finishes Kannagi. I read alot of post talking about Hi doing 3k~4k dmg but I'm having a pretty hard time doing under 4k. Most of my Hi's are 5k+ and my mule isnt amazingly geared for Hi. Just threw together some random AGI gear I had on him.

Floor 100 agi bonnet from Nyzul
Soil Gorget
Suppa / Brutal
Lokis
Seiryu
2x 5 agi rings
aethling
5 agi belt
Iga+2 pants
Af1+1 feet
Q-Tathlum
Squid Sushi
GH/RR/Apoc

Yah this mob is a bit soft but its been like this all week on whatever I fight.



Just a lucky week? Or alot of gimp nins on this thread? I really thought my mule had a complete ***setup and my main will be much much stronger. Was very surprised to see everyone getting such low numbers on this thread.


Nice , i am gearing up my NIN for that but wondering if Hope torque wouldn't be better than Soil Gorget

X.x

any clue !?
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By Alexander.Msthief 2011-04-27 16:45:11
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Hope Torque > Gorget, I don't think there's really any argument. The only difference is that you can get a soil gorget in 3 hours but building a JoH pop and then dealing with the 20% drop rate might take weeks (sorry, never really done it but it looks painfully annoying). If you really wanted to, you could pick the ***out of his build... but more or less I'd say he stopped a good point before stuff gets too expensive / hard to obtain.

Examples: aforementioned hope torque and hachiryu feet.
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By Thud 2011-05-11 07:49:26
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Just finished my tobi+2 and wondering whats the best earring setup.

Brutal+Drone
Brutal+Centaurus
Altdorf's Earring+Wilhelm's Earring
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By Odin.Upbeat 2011-05-11 08:22:34
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Thud said:
Just finished my tobi+2 and wondering whats the best earring setup.

Brutal+Drone
Brutal+Centaurus
Altdorf's Earring+Wilhelm's Earring
I've always used Brutal+Centaurus.
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2011-05-20 13:33:15
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Somehow my Blade: Hi ain't doing so well

I asked ppl around and they said:

BEFORE UPDATE Blade:Hi 5~8 K

After Update Blade:Hi 3~5 K


Anyone got a clue why !?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-05-20 13:38:48
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Bismarck.Kuroganashi said:
Somehow my Blade: Hi ain't doing so well

I asked ppl around and they said:

BEFORE UPDATE Blade:Hi 5~8 K

After Update Blade:Hi 3~5 K


Anyone got a clue why !?
No, you just suck.
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2011-05-20 13:40:24
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Ramuh.Austar said:
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said:
Somehow my Blade: Hi ain't doing so well

I asked ppl around and they said:

BEFORE UPDATE Blade:Hi 5~8 K

After Update Blade:Hi 3~5 K


Anyone got a clue why !?
No, you just suck.

hahahahahah just as I Expected XD
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By Fenrir.Shishiza 2011-05-20 13:58:34
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Bismarck.Kuroganashi said:
Ramuh.Austar said:
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said:
Somehow my Blade: Hi ain't doing so well

I asked ppl around and they said:

BEFORE UPDATE Blade:Hi 5~8 K

After Update Blade:Hi 3~5 K


Anyone got a clue why !?
No, you just suck.

hahahahahah just as I Expected XD

If you can get your ws set up, I might be able to assist in some way.
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2011-05-20 14:01:34
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Fenrir.Shishiza said:
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said:
Ramuh.Austar said:
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said:
Somehow my Blade: Hi ain't doing so well

I asked ppl around and they said:

BEFORE UPDATE Blade:Hi 5~8 K

After Update Blade:Hi 3~5 K


Anyone got a clue why !?
No, you just suck.

hahahahahah just as I Expected XD

If you can get your ws set up, I might be able to assist in some way.

Okay give me a second

gonna make the item set for my WS and for my haste
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2011-05-20 14:11:40
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Sometimes I do use (((Iga Zukin+2))) and (((Soil Gorget)))
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2011-05-20 14:14:31
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This is HASTE settup



Koga Legs for EVA+ Settup
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By Asura.Kese 2011-05-20 14:16:14
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lol
 
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-05-20 14:18:02
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Asura.Kese said:
lol
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