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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-03-17 23:53:02
Asura.Xenophire said: Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: You are off-handing kannagi? Trying a little too hard to troll, Anoo.
Item-sets are a bit weird. Putting your off-hand first, and then your main-hand typically works. I've had situations where it didn't.
Wasn't trolling just curious. But I gotcha didn't know it was a pain.
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By Asura.Takinagi 2011-03-17 23:54:37
Dont think blade: hi even works using Kannagi offhand
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By Asura.Xenophire 2011-03-17 23:56:37
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: Asura.Xenophire said: Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: You are off-handing kannagi? Trying a little too hard to troll, Anoo.
Item-sets are a bit weird. Putting your off-hand first, and then your main-hand typically works. I've had situations where it didn't.
Wasn't trolling just curious. But I gotcha didn't know it was a pain. I had to point something out, I know how you like to talk as per your shouts in PJ. :P
I'd look into getting a Centarus Earring or a Drone. Both are pretty cheap.
 'ing Karkadann helps with Ambusher's. I went 1/2 on them. Tumbler Trunks may or may not be better than Denali, double check with Night on that, as I'm not entirely sure. Also, Lithe Boots I'm sure will go further than what you have now.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-03-17 23:59:12
Asura.Xenophire said: Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: Asura.Xenophire said: Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: You are off-handing kannagi? Trying a little too hard to troll, Anoo.
Item-sets are a bit weird. Putting your off-hand first, and then your main-hand typically works. I've had situations where it didn't.
Wasn't trolling just curious. But I gotcha didn't know it was a pain. I had to point something out, I know how you like to talk as per your shouts in PJ. :P
I'd look into getting a Centarus Earring or a Drone. Both are pretty cheap.
'ing Karkadann helps with Ambusher's. I went 1/2 on them. Tumbler Trunks may or may not be better than Denali, double check with Night on that, as I'm not entirely sure. Also, Lithe Boots I'm sure will go further than what you have now. Asura.Takinagi said: Dont think blade: hi even works using Kannagi offhand
That is what I was kinda point out to from what taki said. But then yeah I also forgot as I was posting this he said he didn't have lvl 85 version yet. So my post was moot. But yeah I troll PJ out of boredom. Also to *** with people like Malware and the like. And yeah tumbler trunks are better than denali. But from what i was just told byakkos > tumblers for outside. I would have thought the other way around. Ik that byakko's has a ***ton of dex for that crit mod, but figured the 18 attack and 5 dex if he's pretty good on the accuracy and dex mods based on the mob
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-18 00:00:14
Tumbler should easily be better than Denali whenever the attack matters.
Never answered my question so I'll assume inside Abyssea. Your head, ear (also why are you even using Iga over Suppa in any non-eva set), and ring1 are basically doing nothing for you; swap them for AGI/attack pieces. Bersail/AF+1 is easy to get, Centaurus is like 20k, and an attack ring would be better than nothing til you get a good AGI ring. Lithe Boots are ~10k? Should really pick them up, and Hachiryu are better still inside Abyssea.
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By Asura.Xenophire 2011-03-18 00:02:52
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Tumbler should easily be better than Denali whenever the attack matters.
Never answered my question so I'll assume inside Abyssea. Your head, ear (also why are you even using Iga over Suppa in any non-eva set), and ring1 are basically doing nothing for you; swap them for AGI/attack pieces. Bersail/AF+1 is easy to get, Centaurus is like 20k, and an attack ring would be better than nothing til you get a good AGI ring. Lithe Boots are ~10k? Should really pick them up, and Hachiryu are better still inside Abyssea. I figured as much, didn't want to open my mouth and look like a tool. I recommended Lithe because Hachiryu are quite rare and can be expensive. Had a mule in Ru'lude want 20 mil for them. I told him to kindly *** off. Ended up buying a pair for 2.
By Sydes 2011-03-18 00:02:57
Ya I'm carrying the Tumbler Trunks around cause I use them for any out outside abyssea (lol) DE's and ya the added ATTK would probably be better than the AGI and ACC. I didnt really understand how 10 more ATTK was worth an inventory spot, that Drone earring I'll definatly have to look into. :D
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By Asura.Takinagi 2011-03-18 00:04:34
Asura.Xenophire said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Tumbler should easily be better than Denali whenever the attack matters.
Never answered my question so I'll assume inside Abyssea. Your head, ear (also why are you even using Iga over Suppa in any non-eva set), and ring1 are basically doing nothing for you; swap them for AGI/attack pieces. Bersail/AF+1 is easy to get, Centaurus is like 20k, and an attack ring would be better than nothing til you get a good AGI ring. Lithe Boots are ~10k? Should really pick them up, and Hachiryu are better still inside Abyssea. I figured as much, didn't want to open my mouth and look like a tool. I recommended Lithe because Hachiryu are quite rare and can be expensive. Had a mule in Ru'lude want 20 mil for them. I told him to kindly *** off. Ended up buying a pair for 2.
If anyone wants to buy my pair for 20mil send me a pm.
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By Asura.Xenophire 2011-03-18 00:05:23
Sydes said: Ya I'm carrying the Tumbler Trunks around cause I use them for any out outside abyssea (lol) DE's and ya the added ATTK would probably be better than the AGI and ACC. I didnt really understand how 10 more ATTK was worth an inventory spot, that Drone earring I'll definatly have to look into. :D Definitely not a 'omfg go out and get these' but, this is what I have atm. I'm sitting on 4mil atm so, I could stand to upgrade to a Stormsoul. Any suggestions, Night?
This is Abyssea, obv.
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By Asura.Xenophire 2011-03-18 00:05:42
Asura.Takinagi said: Asura.Xenophire said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Tumbler should easily be better than Denali whenever the attack matters.
Never answered my question so I'll assume inside Abyssea. Your head, ear (also why are you even using Iga over Suppa in any non-eva set), and ring1 are basically doing nothing for you; swap them for AGI/attack pieces. Bersail/AF+1 is easy to get, Centaurus is like 20k, and an attack ring would be better than nothing til you get a good AGI ring. Lithe Boots are ~10k? Should really pick them up, and Hachiryu are better still inside Abyssea. I figured as much, didn't want to open my mouth and look like a tool. I recommended Lithe because Hachiryu are quite rare and can be expensive. Had a mule in Ru'lude want 20 mil for them. I told him to kindly *** off. Ended up buying a pair for 2.
If anyone wants to buy my pair for 20mil send me a pm. I'll trade you Hachi Feet for my Arhat's Jinpachi +1!
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-18 00:06:00
Sydes said: I didnt really understand how 10 more ATTK was worth an inventory spot, that Drone earring I'll definatly have to look into. :D This statement confuses the *** out of me. You don't see how 10 attack is worth the inventory space (at this point I'm wondering why you're so hard up on inv that you don't even have Merman's Earrings in your inv), but you're going to get a Drone Earring which costs about the same and is worse...
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By Asura.Takinagi 2011-03-18 00:06:27
Lol why you got to tease me like that :(
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-03-18 00:07:38
Asura.Takinagi said: Asura.Xenophire said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Tumbler should easily be better than Denali whenever the attack matters.
Never answered my question so I'll assume inside Abyssea. Your head, ear (also why are you even using Iga over Suppa in any non-eva set), and ring1 are basically doing nothing for you; swap them for AGI/attack pieces. Bersail/AF+1 is easy to get, Centaurus is like 20k, and an attack ring would be better than nothing til you get a good AGI ring. Lithe Boots are ~10k? Should really pick them up, and Hachiryu are better still inside Abyssea. I figured as much, didn't want to open my mouth and look like a tool. I recommended Lithe because Hachiryu are quite rare and can be expensive. Had a mule in Ru'lude want 20 mil for them. I told him to kindly *** off. Ended up buying a pair for 2.
If anyone wants to buy my pair for 20mil send me a pm.
Gil is over-rated
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By Asura.Xenophire 2011-03-18 00:08:03
Asura.Takinagi said: Lol why you got to tease me like that :( ilu. ; ; <3
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-18 00:08:43
Asura.Xenophire said: I figured as much, didn't want to open my mouth and look like a tool. I recommended Lithe because Hachiryu are quite rare and can be expensive. Had a mule in Ru'lude want 20 mil for them. I told him to kindly *** off. Ended up buying a pair for 2. If Hachi weren't such nice eva feet I honestly wouldn't have worried about them all that much. They're certainly nice for Hi but worth the gil/effort just for that, meh.
Asura.Xenophire said: Sydes said: Ya I'm carrying the Tumbler Trunks around cause I use them for any out outside abyssea (lol) DE's and ya the added ATTK would probably be better than the AGI and ACC. I didnt really understand how 10 more ATTK was worth an inventory spot, that Drone earring I'll definatly have to look into. :D Definitely not a 'omfg go out and get these' but, this is what I have atm. I'm sitting on 4mil atm so, I could stand to upgrade to a Stormsoul. Any suggestions, Night?
This is Abyssea, obv. Anguinus when the attack matters, but that's the only thing that springs to mind.
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By Asura.Xenophire 2011-03-18 00:11:18
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: If Hachi weren't such nice eva feet I honestly wouldn't have worried about them all that much. They're certainly nice for Hi but worth the gil/effort, meh. Touché. In saying that, I wonder why I was so hell-bent on getting mine. Lol. OMGTHEYLOOKCOOL. And eh, I suppose when gearing for something like this, go all out.
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Anguinus when the attack matters, but that's the only thing that springs to mind. I think I have half a KKK pop, I'm not sure. I'll have to double check when the servers are back up. Much appreciated.
By Sydes 2011-03-18 00:12:21
Well Night to your question earlier: That set would be both and inside and outside set. The atma's that I generally use when playing NIN are RR/GH/situational 3rd (VV, SS, C&D, Apoc, Omnipotant)
Thanks for pointing out that Aesir earring, that is a good idea, and for a head I do have that add-on head piece with WS ACC and Crit. dmg+ so that would probably be a better choice. Definatly need to get a AHable ring to replace Raja's. Thanks for the comments
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By Asura.Xenophire 2011-03-18 00:14:30
Sydes said: situational 3rd (VV, SS, C&D, Apoc, Omnipotant) Correct me if I'm wrong, but. Shouldn't Apoc be the Atma of choice regardless? 15% Triple Attack rate is amazing, the Auto-Reraise is a god-send for really HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE ***where you need to Mijin to get back up ASAP, and the Quick Magic is quite amazing.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-03-18 00:17:11
Sydes said: Well Night to your question earlier: That set would be both and inside and outside set. The atma's that I generally use when playing NIN are RR/GH/situational 3rd (VV, SS, C&D, Apoc, Omnipotant)
Thanks for pointing out that Aesir earring, that is a good idea, and for a head I do have that add-on head piece with WS ACC and Crit. dmg+ so that would probably be a better choice. Definatly need to get a AHable ring to replace Raja's. Thanks for the comments
Having and inside/outside set as the same won't bring ya the numbers. Having 2 gear sets for in and out is detrimental. It's like those pink and perle players who wonder why their outside ws are so shitty. Or those brownbelt mnks who aby burned it up are like.. wtf? If nin isn't your main (like me) then I guess it doesn't really matter to ask this question in the first place about your build. Even still it's nice, I still switch out tumbler trunks and byakko's inside/outside when using jin.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-18 00:17:31
Asura.Xenophire said: Touché. In saying that, I wonder why I was so hell-bent on getting mine. Lol. OMGTHEYLOOKCOOL. And eh, I suppose when gearing for something like this, go all out.
OMGSHINY lol, I can relate to that.
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: Gil is over-rated If you don't want yours I'll take it!
By Sydes 2011-03-18 00:18:42
Well I said situational because sometimes I would need some extra HP so I would rather keep GH and RR so Apoc would get sacrificed for SS, if I felt that I really needed a boost to Evasion than C&D would replace the Apoc, VV would take a spot when I just wanted a little more regain without the slow from sea daughter. The trait I most appretiate from Apoc is the re-raise and although its awesome sometimes I just like a little variety.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-03-18 00:19:00
Asura.Xenophire said: Sydes said: situational 3rd (VV, SS, C&D, Apoc, Omnipotant) Correct me if I'm wrong, but. Shouldn't Apoc be the Atma of choice regardless? 15% Triple Attack rate is amazing, the Auto-Reraise is a god-send for really HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE ***where you need to Mijin to get back up ASAP, and the Quick Magic is quite amazing.
Yeah Apoc should be a fulltime atma especially when soloing or lowmanning.
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By Asura.Takinagi 2011-03-18 00:22:08
I only ever use Apoc for DD, C&D makes life a lot easier when evasion tanking.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-03-18 00:22:10
Evasion atma would only be for solo play in which case you wouldn't use GH. For solo I usually go Apoc, RR, SS but even still I hate doing that. That's why I have an evasion build and it's not even necessary. It's more situational use when a mob has redic accuracy.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-18 00:22:16
Sydes said: Well Night to your question earlier: That set would be both and inside and outside set. Make two sets.
Quote: The atma's that I generally use when playing NIN are RR/GH/situational 3rd (VV, SS, C&D, Apoc, Omnipotant) I have absolutely no idea why you're using any of the bolded atmas. VV is basically 25 attack 5% DA and some regain, SS is critdmg+0-5% and some HP (there are better HP atma options), and Omnipotent... capping gear haste on NIN is hard?
Asura.Xenophire said: Sydes said: situational 3rd (VV, SS, C&D, Apoc, Omnipotant) Correct me if I'm wrong, but. Shouldn't Apoc be the Atma of choice regardless? 15% Triple Attack rate is amazing, the Auto-Reraise is a god-send for really HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE ***where you need to Mijin to get back up ASAP, and the Quick Magic is quite amazing. I swap out Apoc for Siren Shadow for things like Azdaja and Indrik, but other than that I'm pretty much always rocking RR/GH/Apoc.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-18 00:23:05
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: Evasion atma would only be for solo play in which case you wouldn't use GH. For solo I usually go Apoc, RR, SS but even still I hate doing that. That's why I have an evasion build and it's not even necessary. It's more situational use when a mob has redic accuracy. Dropping GH for an eva atma seems kind of backwards, you only gain 15 eva and lose a shitton of DPS, 10% counter, and possibly feed more TP/hit.
By Sydes 2011-03-18 00:23:45
Honestly ninja isnt what I would consider to be my main, and I can appretaite that different sets are needed for optimum damage for outside abyssea fights v. insidea abyssea fights. As to why I was commenting on the set build~ hell, the servers are down but I still like to think about FF so here I am D: Perhaps I overlooked some benefical aspects to Apoc, once we get some a favorites page (as I seem to remember SE mentioning not long ago) I'll be sure to use it more often. The convinience of having RR/GH/SS all on my page 4 or 5 is nice rather than going 5 more pages to find apocalypse.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-03-18 00:25:10
Asura.Takinagi said: I only ever use Apoc for DD, C&D makes life a lot easier when evasion tanking.
Idk I prefer the SS > CD majority of times. Even still if I really need to I just throw on that evasion gear. Including the evasion katana, (never had 2 of them and I won't.. I feel if I need that much evasion.. it's not worth it in the first place.) if I absolutely have to. I'm still trying to that *** katana off that fleshflayer in Grauberg ; ; he's a *** drop rate even with blue.
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By Asura.Xenophire 2011-03-18 00:26:09
Sydes said: Honestly ninja isnt what I would consider to be my main, Why go through the time to make Kannagi for it then? Albeit, Kannagi is easy to solo, the point still stands. Lol. You spent all that time doing that, may as well go all out~
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By Asura.Takinagi 2011-03-18 00:28:28
I am using Tobi+2 and my nin has fairly decent gear. Ninja is also not my main.
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