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Evisceration +Atma
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Phoenix.Smileybone
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Phoenix.Smileybone said: So I'm COR and I'm thinking of making an evisceration build. Would /nin be worth it for the off hand multi-hit(Joyeuse) or should I just stay /war? bump Phoenix.Smileybone said: Phoenix.Smileybone said: So I'm COR and I'm thinking of making an evisceration build. Would /nin be worth it for the off hand multi-hit(Joyeuse) or should I just stay /war? I was personally having a blast w/ M. Kris/Joyeuse when I only had a RR atma. I could only imagine it being more fun now! Are you looking for all out damage build, or something fun to play with? Phoenix.Smileybone
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Leviathan.Bladefury said: Phoenix.Smileybone said: Phoenix.Smileybone said: So I'm COR and I'm thinking of making an evisceration build. Would /nin be worth it for the off hand multi-hit(Joyeuse) or should I just stay /war? I was personally having a blast w/ M. Kris/Joyeuse when I only had a RR atma. I could only imagine it being more fun now! Are you looking for all out damage build, or something fun to play with? Damage! Get a Yata!!! Can have up to like +8 dmg and 6% crit dmg I think. Also +30% viper bite dmg!!!
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I actually got one with DMG +7 and crit dmg +4% just don't know if /nin for the off-hand joyeuse is worth it over /war D:
Depends on if you want dps or epeen eviserations I guess lol. Though if you are using trip/double attack atmas, rolls, gear the difference in tp gain will shrink alot.
if i was a cor i'd be gearing for wildfire >.> from what ive seen that puts evis to shame haha
This is what I use for Evisceration. Atmas are RR GH and Apocalypse now.
Yataghan has DMG +6 and Crit. Damage +5%. (Yataghan in main hand, Twilight in offhand.) I play around with daggers depending on situation though. So these daggers are pretty much when I'm in a DD situation. Phoenix.Hagino said: Ive been wondering this, how does everyone feel about lithe boots over hecatomb? In the near future I'll need to slightly re-gear for Rudra's Storm. :\ Need to get my hands on Aias Bonnet and work on AF3 as well. -.- ***never seems to drop. join the club, 1/7 for ocelot trousers with blue and TH5+ each time
im so close to my snow cone dagger i cant wait :( Kilas are str and evis, I'll whip out the old sirocco when I feel like it. Working on rapidus right now though for off hand dd dagger, also working on dex dagger not done yet either(its almost lvl 85). This is WS set only not sata, not ta, right now its mostly for dancing edge as I am updating a lot of jobs and not a lot of free time, and to tired to post planned gear set. I have a differnt set for when TA is involved. I also have a N. head abjuration that I'm searching for a cursed cap -1 for. Love love love the +2 head easy to get amazing piece. *edit- depends on what I am doing but if it is just dding like in a te party then I'll do VV, RR, + Sanguine Scythe. crit hit rate/damage +50%, Str/Dex +50, +20% hp, 2tp/tic regain, double atk +5. Offline
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In response to an earlier post I would think leithe boots would be better on evis, +3 dex = extra mod power sure 6 str is nice but it adds what +12 att if its 2 att per 1 str?? ( I may be wrong if I am correct me please)
id rather use a yellow curry bun and leithe boots im pretty confident dmg out put would be greater. Also the AGI on the boots makes them versatile for both SA and TA yes I know there are higher AGI based boots but these give you good stats for both dex and agi. Just my opinion there may well be a better combination some one has found but this has always worked nice for me. Lithe boots are good and with VV you are capping fstr anyways..,, and it's 2 str makes 1 att.
Also as far as the post above that SS doesn't do much for you. I mean you are already at +35-40% crit dmg without it... and cap is 50%. And generally gearing for TA will net you less dmg than gearing ws mods/att/str etc since the TA or SA bonus is only applied to the first hit and only after pdif anyways. So it would only take at least 4 hits connecting for 1 dex to be better than 1 agi on TA ws. Bahamut.Dasva said: Lithe boots are good and with VV you are capping fstr anyways..,, and it's 2 str makes 1 att. Also as far as the post above that SS doesn't do much for you. I mean you are already at +35-40% crit dmg without it... and cap is 50%. And generally gearing for TA will net you less dmg than gearing ws mods/att/str etc since the TA or SA bonus is only applied to the first hit and only after pdif anyways. So it would only take at least 4 hits connecting for 1 dex to be better than 1 agi on TA ws. All the testing I have done on my own and researched on bg that atma buffs do not cap on criticla hit rate or damage. When I do Gnarled horn, RR, and deep depths; I crit over over 80% of my hits. So yes the bonus from SS still applies. Crit rate no +crit dmg yes. I've seen a bit of stuff on BG that suggest +crit dmg caps at 50% and wiki and from eveyrone I know that has tried to stack SS and RR which is what I was talking about not rate... so your example doesn't disagree with me.
Oh and I've heard of people getting like 95%ish crit hits lol i rather have the triple attack from apocolypse over VV, im thinking about switching my back piece to the crit damage since i use RR GH and Apoc. I tp fast enough to were the 2tp tick doesnt outweight the triple attack. 50 str wont do much compared to the new subtle blow bonus from GH and crit rate along with the overlooked TA bonus.
OK, I have a quick question for you guys since ya'll are all about daggers naturally. I want to set up an Evisceration set for my NIN under Innin. Should I be looking to stack STR instead of DEX since I won't benefit from SATA? Or DEX (or a combo of both)? Any opinion is appreciated!
Phoenix.Smileybone said: Leviathan.Bladefury said: Phoenix.Smileybone said: Phoenix.Smileybone said: So I'm COR and I'm thinking of making an evisceration build. Would /nin be worth it for the off hand multi-hit(Joyeuse) or should I just stay /war? Obvious upgrades would be to get a better dagger, and an mkris perhaps as offhand. But as said earlier, Wildfire is really good, so don't waste too much time on an Evis set. Carbuncle.Shokox said: OK, I have a quick question for you guys since ya'll are all about daggers naturally. I want to set up an Evisceration set for my NIN under Innin. Should I be looking to stack STR instead of DEX since I won't benefit from SATA? Or DEX (or a combo of both)? Any opinion is appreciated! i would go dex route without SA on THF i hit 1.5k-2.5k evis's with SA ive hit 2k-3.5k evis's Indeed indeed, thank you :D Also read a very interesting Evis topic on DNC forum that cleared up my other questions~
Crit rate *from Atma* caps at 50% according to Kirschy's testing at BG. You can get above 50% crits from other sources (natural crits from dDex, crits from merits, Rogue's Roll...)
Quote: Highest unstacked Evis I have done was 4.6k to Iron Giant in Abyssea-Altepa, no bard/corsair/drinks at the time. That NM takes enhanced damage after certain TP moves if i recall, You've probably done better than that :P. anyway. my Current Evisc set is something like this: Could stand a better belt or feet, But for the time being I'm comfortable with this. As far as Atmas, I generally use RR/GH/Apoc, its my favorite combo. |
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