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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-26 12:15:29
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Ramuh.Kailana said:
If there was a way to get everyone in whitegate into one ls and keep them there, telling people to take it to LS would be a viable solution. Unfortunately, it's really not a viable solution, at all.

are you trying to reason with the butthurts? why?
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2010-11-26 12:15:40
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

If they are having a conversation no matter how HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, it's not your place to tell them to move it somewhere else, you need to either /blist or use filters or leave, if they are spamming then that's different, but you're not the judge of what people have in their conversations.

or just not be a *** baby and ignore it

It's also not your place to tell me what is or is not my place to tell someone.
I do use blacklist, filters, and/or leave.
What I'm suggesting is that if a bunch of people want to have a HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE conversation, why don't they create a social linkshell for that purpose.
It's just as much their responsibility to use the linkshell chat function (to have a non-public conversation) as it is my responsibility to turn on chat filters for shouts.

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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-11-26 12:16:50
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

If they are having a conversation no matter how HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, it's not your place to tell them to move it somewhere else, you need to either /blist or use filters or leave, if they are spamming then that's different, but you're not the judge of what people have in their conversations.

or just not be a *** baby and ignore it

It's also not your place to tell me what is or is not my place to tell someone.
I do use blacklist, filters, and/or leave.
What I'm suggesting is that if a bunch of people want to have a HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE conversation, why don't they create a social linkshell for that purpose.
It's just as much their responsibility to use the linkshell chat function (to have a non-public conversation) as it is my responsibility to turn on chat filters for shouts.

What if I want to be an attention ***?
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By Ramuh.Kailana 2010-11-26 12:17:07
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Ramuh.Kailana said:
If there was a way to get everyone in whitegate into one ls and keep them there, telling people to take it to LS would be a viable solution. Unfortunately, it's really not a viable solution, at all.

are you trying to reason with the butthurts? why?

I'm the kind of person that likes to think there's goodness in everyone, or that they'll see to pure, cold, logic.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-26 12:17:25
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

If they are having a conversation no matter how HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, it's not your place to tell them to move it somewhere else, you need to either /blist or use filters or leave, if they are spamming then that's different, but you're not the judge of what people have in their conversations.

or just not be a *** baby and ignore it

It's also not your place to tell me what is or is not my place to tell someone.
I do use blacklist, filters, and/or leave.
What I'm suggesting is that if a bunch of people want to have a HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE conversation, why don't they create a social linkshell for that purpose.
It's just as much their responsibility to use the linkshell chat function (to have a non-public conversation) as it is my responsibility to turn on chat filters for shouts.

no, and no.

it's a chat mode for a reason, and as long as they aren't spamming it's fine, get over it.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-26 12:17:51
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Ramuh.Kailana said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Ramuh.Kailana said:
If there was a way to get everyone in whitegate into one ls and keep them there, telling people to take it to LS would be a viable solution. Unfortunately, it's really not a viable solution, at all.

are you trying to reason with the butthurts? why?

I'm the kind of person that likes to think there's goodness in everyone, or that they'll see to pure, cold, logic.

I keep trying that here, it doesn't work, unfortunately.
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By Ramuh.Kailana 2010-11-26 12:19:28
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I'm slowly learning that, but I'm one of those optimist types. xD
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-26 12:21:12
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Ramuh.Kailana said:
I'm slowly learning that, but I'm one of those optimist types. xD

I'm an optimist/realist, and I need to find a better balance...
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2010-11-26 12:23:33
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Ramuh.Kailana said:
If there was a way to get everyone in whitegate into one ls and keep them there, telling people to take it to LS would be a viable solution. Unfortunately, it's really not a viable solution, at all.

Kailana, you're presuming that when one shouts something dumb in Whitegate, that most people in the zone want to hear it.
This is almost without fail, a misplaced presumption.
However, there probably are a few players, at any given time who are interested in goofing-off/flirting/trolling/mocking/epeening.
If that's your "cup of tea", why not create a linkshell with your fellow hooligans and yack yack yack it up with them in private?
Don't like that idea? No? Why not? If you don't like that idea, you're shouting more for the attention than the actual tomfoolery ...


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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-26 12:26:25
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
Ramuh.Kailana said:
If there was a way to get everyone in whitegate into one ls and keep them there, telling people to take it to LS would be a viable solution. Unfortunately, it's really not a viable solution, at all.

Kailana, you're presuming that when one shouts something dumb in Whitegate, that most people in the zone want to hear it.
This is almost without fail, a misplaced presumption.
However, there probably are a few players, at any given time who are interested in goofing-off/flirting/trolling/mocking/epeening.
If that's your "cup of tea", why not create a linkshell with your fellow hooligans and yack yack yack it up with them in private?
Don't like that idea? No? Why not? If you don't like that idea, you're shouting more for the attention than the actual tomfoolery ...



some people don't have the room, or are allowed to have more than 1 linkshell, or maybe they just don't want one, it doesn't matter the reason as to why they don't, they don't have to.

On top of the fact that sometimes they want other people in on the conversation, and you won't know who without saying it to everyone. Again, if you don't like people using /shout to converse do something about it on your end or stop QQing
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2010-11-26 12:28:57
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

no, and no.

it's a chat mode for a reason,

Yes it is, actually for several reasons, including these:
1. Advertising a pick-up group for various tasks (Missions, Skill-up parties, Dynamis, Abyssea runs, etc.).
2. Advertising for your linkshell, recruiting new members.
3. Advertising "Mog House blow-out/clean-up" and "I'm quitting FFXI (again)" sales, when a character is liquidating trade-able/bazaar items.
4. Seeking or advertising transportation via Teleport/Warp/Retrace.
5. Certain questions, such as "Anyone seen the Warhorse Footprint?"



Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
and as long as they aren't spamming it's fine, get over it.

Personally I am over it. I'm simply responding to the OP, in agreement with him/her. Furthermore, I'm offering a worthwhile solution. Make a social linkshell, bring all your drama-loving, attention-seeking, cybering, and internet-meme-loving buddies, and have a retard-fest ... privately.


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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-26 12:30:24
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

no, and no.

it's a chat mode for a reason,

Yes it is, actually for several reasons, including these:
1. Advertising a pick-up group for various tasks (Missions, Skill-up parties, Dynamis, Abyssea runs, etc.).
2. Advertising for your linkshell, recruiting new members.
3. Advertising "Mog House blow-out/clean-up" and "I'm quitting FFXI (again)" sales, when a character is liquidating trade-able/bazaar items.
4. Seeking or advertising transportation via Teleport/Warp/Retrace.
5. Certain questions, such as "Anyone seen the Warhorse Footprint?"



Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
and as long as they aren't spamming it's fine, get over it.

Personally I am over it. I'm simply responding to the OP, in agreement with him/her. Furthermore, I'm offering a worthwhile solution. Make a social linkshell, bring all your drama-loving, attention-seeking, cybering, and internet-meme-loving buddies, and have a retard-fest ... privately.


it's also for holding conversations, as with any chat mode

and the solution is they need to get over it and stop QQing the problem is on the side of the people butthurt over it, not the people doing it.

Also since you agree with the OP you aren't over it, you're being a butthurt crybaby.
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By Poupee 2010-11-26 12:38:53
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Ramuh.Kailana said:
I'm slowly learning that, but I'm one of those optimist types. xD
shuuut uuuup..
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-11-26 12:40:49
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

no, and no.

it's a chat mode for a reason,

Yes it is, actually for several reasons, including these:
1. Advertising a pick-up group for various tasks (Missions, Skill-up parties, Dynamis, Abyssea runs, etc.).
2. Advertising for your linkshell, recruiting new members.
3. Advertising "Mog House blow-out/clean-up" and "I'm quitting FFXI (again)" sales, when a character is liquidating trade-able/bazaar items.
4. Seeking or advertising transportation via Teleport/Warp/Retrace.
5. Certain questions, such as "Anyone seen the Warhorse Footprint?"



Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
and as long as they aren't spamming it's fine, get over it.

Personally I am over it. I'm simply responding to the OP, in agreement with him/her. Furthermore, I'm offering a worthwhile solution. Make a social linkshell, bring all your drama-loving, attention-seeking, cybering, and internet-meme-loving buddies, and have a retard-fest ... privately.


I thought you were responding to Jet since you quoted him.
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By Ramuh.Kailana 2010-11-26 12:41:41
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Poupee said:
Ramuh.Kailana said:
I'm slowly learning that, but I'm one of those optimist types. xD
shuuut uuuup..

Silence fake person!
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By Kikorimo 2010-11-26 12:48:11
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Yes, and by all means also make it a point the next time you walk through a mall to b**** at everyone having a conversation as they go about their buisness to "GTFO" of your mall. Go ahead and see how far it gets you. Public places are about more than just advertising. They are there for the public to get together and enjoy. If you don't like it, and can't ignore it, then stay home. "Stupid is as stupid does" says Mr. Gump, and I say whining in public about stupid conversations in public makes you look like a fool. Which is why now that I have said my peace I am not going to argue this point further. Gotta keep this in mind: "Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."


Also, the above image seems appropriate somehow...
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2010-11-26 12:48:49
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:


and the solution is they need to get over it and stop QQing the problem is on the side of the people butthurt over it, not the people doing it.

Also since you agree with the OP you aren't over it, you're being a butthurt crybaby.

Oh sure, it's inconceivable that two sides of a problem could both be culpable and/or potentially integral to a solution to said problem.
I thought you were supposed to be logical, Jetackuu. You're coming off as an idiot here.
Using the terms "QQ" and "butthurt" ain't helping.
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2010-11-26 12:56:15
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Kikorimo said:
Yes, and by all means also make it a point the next time you walk through a mall to b**** at everyone having a conversation as they go about their buisness to "GTFO" of your mall. Go ahead and see how far it gets you. Public places are about more than just advertising. They are there for the public to get together and enjoy. If you don't like it, and can't ignore it, then stay home. "Stupid is as stupid does" says Mr. Gump, and I say whining in public about stupid conversations in public makes you look like a fool. Which is why now that I have said my peace I am not going to argue this point further. Gotta keep this in mind: "Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."



Massive failure.
Your logic is fried like an egg on hot pavement.
It's as simple as this: would you walk into a mall and shout "Heeeeeyyyyyyyyyyy everyone in the mall!!" or "I want have your babies!!" or any other such drivel?
Don't try to play it off like you would. If you did, you'd probably be escorted out by security, especially if other people in the mall reacted by shouting stupid stuff in response.
This isn't an argument about who "owns" Whitegate, or any other "public" place in FFXI. It's about decency, and respect. One is expected to be decent in public. If one isn't decent, one likely faces repercussions for being indecent.

If you wanna play really loud music, do it in your home, or another private place. If you wanna walk around naked, do it in your home, or another private place designated for such behavior.
If you wanna shout HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE stuff in Whitegate for masturbatory purposes, why not get a social linkshell for fellow masterbaters?
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-11-26 13:03:16
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Elana, you are a silly idealist to think a solution can be made with thousands of differing personalities existing on these servers.
The Solution is either A)SE steps in and does something, B)people stop bitching about it because it's gonna happen regardless if you *** either way.

edit: or C) we continue to do it and *** as usual.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-26 13:06:53
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:


and the solution is they need to get over it and stop QQing the problem is on the side of the people butthurt over it, not the people doing it.

Also since you agree with the OP you aren't over it, you're being a butthurt crybaby.

Oh sure, it's inconceivable that two sides of a problem could both be culpable and/or potentially integral to a solution to said problem.
I thought you were supposed to be logical, Jetackuu. You're coming off as an idiot here.
Using the terms "QQ" and "butthurt" ain't helping.

it's not a problem, one side perceives it as a problem, for something to be logical the premises must be found to be true, your premise isn't true, so seriously stop QQing about your butthurt, and I use QQ and butthurt because that is exactly what the *** you are doing.
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By Ramuh.Kailana 2010-11-26 13:08:52
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I'm stunned. You've never seen people yell in public places, arseing around, or people drive by in cars with stereos so loud you can hear it clearly even with their windows up? Happens all the time >_>
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-26 13:10:00
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Ramuh.Kailana said:
I'm stunned. You've never seen people yell in public places, arseing around, or people drive by in cars with stereos so loud you can hear it clearly even with their windows up? Happens all the time >_>

we all play an MMO, what is this RL you speak of?

edit: but seriously, we should probably stop trying to tell them they are being immature to cry about their butthurt or even the fact that they are butthurt over such a silly thing in the first place, hopefully one day they may grow up.

They are like people who *** about being offended...

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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-11-26 13:10:09
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Ramuh.Kailana said:
I'm stunned. You've never seen people yell in public places, arseing around, or people drive by in cars with stereos so loud you can hear it clearly even with their windows up? Happens all the time >_>
I am one of those people.
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By Ramuh.Kailana 2010-11-26 13:11:25
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I have been known to, at times, particularily when I visited Toronto, Nashville and St. Louis, everything was so big and amazing! And you know what? No one said a word to me.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-11-26 13:14:18
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Ramuh.Kailana said:
I'm stunned. You've never seen people yell in public places, arseing around, or people drive by in cars with stereos so loud you can hear it clearly even with their windows up? Happens all the time >_>

we all play an MMO, what is this RL you speak of?

edit: but seriously, we should probably stop trying to tell them they are being immature to cry about their butthurt or even the fact that they are butthurt over such a silly thing in the first place, hopefully one day they may grow up.

They are like people who *** about being offended...

video shows the thoughts on being offended, and they can apply to this too
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2010-11-26 13:15:14
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are people seriously still bitching about shouts? its a chat feature, people have every right to use it. if you cant just simply ignore it or blist the people, if it really bothers you that much, maybe you should find another game.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-11-26 13:16:40
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HEY!

WHAT?!

I WANNA BANG UR SISTER!

OMFG. IM GONA KIRR U NOOBBAIT!
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By Asura.Poupee 2010-11-26 13:17:43
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WHEN I READ STUFF IN CAPS LOCK MY VOICE INSIDE MY HEAD IS SCREAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMING ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGH
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-11-26 13:18:42
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every time I see CAPS, the voice in my head tells me to skullfuck the person doing it.

/stares at Poupee
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By Asura.Poupee 2010-11-26 13:20:09
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Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
every time I see CAPS, the voice in my head tells me to skullfuck the person doing it.

/stares at Poupee
here ill send you my address in pm
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