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 Bahamut.Jetackuu
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 14:06:50
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just as it's more efficient to speed on the highway if you want to get to your location faster, it's still against the rules.
Hey, I didn't know FFXI was real life! :O
your cheating affects others negatively, so yes.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-10-30 14:07:51
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Oh, and if you dont trust windower blabla, why do you even post on this site..
These people made windower you know!
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 14:08:22
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Cerberus.Kvazz said:
And those who follow the rules gets rewarded how?
SE can't ban those who use Windower because they'd lose most of their players.
the windower itself isn't cheating, however it's plugins are, well it's up to them, however you're still cheating.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 14:08:40
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Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Oh, and if you dont trust windower blabla, why do you even post on this site..
These people made windower you know!
2 different things buddy.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 14:09:28
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cheating makes you a dirty douchewaffle, regardless of your perception of why you're entitled to do it. It's against the tos for a reason, and I hope you get banned.

I flee hacked 24/7 and never got banned, you won't get banned if you're not HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
you should be, for you are a retard if you cheat.

Nope I'd just rather not do mundane tasks if I don't have to.
still cheating
I still get stuff done more efficiently than you.
no, you cheat to get them done.
It's still more efficient.
just as it's more efficient to speed on the highway if you want to get to your location faster, it's still against the rules.


and i have gm detectors for my bots and radar detectors for my car
not the point.


oh no not the rules

i'll mend my ways posthaste
well if you don't want to be a douche, then by all means. If you can sleep at night while being a douche, then as you were, douche.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-30 14:10:23
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
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just as it's more efficient to speed on the highway if you want to get to your location faster, it's still against the rules.
Hey, I didn't know FFXI was real life! :O
your cheating affects others negatively, so yes.
So by not cheating in a game, do you feel that you are superior over all of the others who do cheat? Even though they can do things at a faster rate that you can? And what compels you to not buy a PC, as cheap as they are, and put yourself at an advantage?
 
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 14:11:48
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Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
just as it's more efficient to speed on the highway if you want to get to your location faster, it's still against the rules.
Hey, I didn't know FFXI was real life! :O
your cheating affects others negatively, so yes.
So by not cheating in a game, do you feel that you are superior over all of the others who do cheat? Even though they can do things at a faster rate that you can? And what compels you to not buy a PC, as cheap as they are, and put yourself at an advantage?
because cheating others is wrong, and a pc I would buy, wouldn't be cheap. I don't buy headaches, and cheap pcs are headaches. Item dupers were doing things faster, *** still got banned, you're saying you shouldn't be banned? because you should.

also when I obtain things, I do feel better than you, because I actually earned what I got, unlike you.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-10-30 14:15:26
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
just as it's more efficient to speed on the highway if you want to get to your location faster, it's still against the rules.
Hey, I didn't know FFXI was real life! :O
your cheating affects others negatively, so yes.
So by not cheating in a game, do you feel that you are superior over all of the others who do cheat? Even though they can do things at a faster rate that you can? And what compels you to not buy a PC, as cheap as they are, and put yourself at an advantage?
because cheating others is wrong, and a pc I would buy, wouldn't be cheap. I don't buy headaches, and cheap pcs are headaches. Item dupers were doing things faster, *** still got banned, you're saying you shouldn't be banned? because you should. also when I obtain things, I do feel better than you, because I actually earned what I got, unlike you.
they get it faster and move on to greater and better things before you do
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 14:16:07
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Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
just as it's more efficient to speed on the highway if you want to get to your location faster, it's still against the rules.
Hey, I didn't know FFXI was real life! :O
your cheating affects others negatively, so yes.
So by not cheating in a game, do you feel that you are superior over all of the others who do cheat? Even though they can do things at a faster rate that you can? And what compels you to not buy a PC, as cheap as they are, and put yourself at an advantage?
because cheating others is wrong, and a pc I would buy, wouldn't be cheap. I don't buy headaches, and cheap pcs are headaches. Item dupers were doing things faster, *** still got banned, you're saying you shouldn't be banned? because you should. also when I obtain things, I do feel better than you, because I actually earned what I got, unlike you.
they get it faster and move on to greater and better things before you do
doesn't matter, they still cheated and don't deserve what they got
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-10-30 14:16:53
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
just as it's more efficient to speed on the highway if you want to get to your location faster, it's still against the rules.
Hey, I didn't know FFXI was real life! :O
your cheating affects others negatively, so yes.
So by not cheating in a game, do you feel that you are superior over all of the others who do cheat? Even though they can do things at a faster rate that you can? And what compels you to not buy a PC, as cheap as they are, and put yourself at an advantage?
because cheating others is wrong, and a pc I would buy, wouldn't be cheap. I don't buy headaches, and cheap pcs are headaches. Item dupers were doing things faster, *** still got banned, you're saying you shouldn't be banned? because you should. also when I obtain things, I do feel better than you, because I actually earned what I got, unlike you.
they get it faster and move on to greater and better things before you do
doesn't matter, they still cheated and don't deserve what they got
i'm pretty sure you don't deserve things you got
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 14:19:09
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Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
just as it's more efficient to speed on the highway if you want to get to your location faster, it's still against the rules.
Hey, I didn't know FFXI was real life! :O
your cheating affects others negatively, so yes.
So by not cheating in a game, do you feel that you are superior over all of the others who do cheat? Even though they can do things at a faster rate that you can? And what compels you to not buy a PC, as cheap as they are, and put yourself at an advantage?
because cheating others is wrong, and a pc I would buy, wouldn't be cheap. I don't buy headaches, and cheap pcs are headaches. Item dupers were doing things faster, *** still got banned, you're saying you shouldn't be banned? because you should. also when I obtain things, I do feel better than you, because I actually earned what I got, unlike you.
they get it faster and move on to greater and better things before you do
doesn't matter, they still cheated and don't deserve what they got
i'm pretty sure you don't deserve things you got
considering I don't cheat the system or others no, everything I've obtained in FFXI I deserve.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-30 14:21:08
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
just as it's more efficient to speed on the highway if you want to get to your location faster, it's still against the rules.
Hey, I didn't know FFXI was real life! :O
your cheating affects others negatively, so yes.
So by not cheating in a game, do you feel that you are superior over all of the others who do cheat? Even though they can do things at a faster rate that you can? And what compels you to not buy a PC, as cheap as they are, and put yourself at an advantage?
because cheating others is wrong, and a pc I would buy, wouldn't be cheap. I don't buy headaches, and cheap pcs are headaches. Item dupers were doing things faster, *** still got banned, you're saying you shouldn't be banned? because you should.
Cheating others to get what we want is how people are >_> You can put on a "I'm fair and holy" facade, but it's still the same. While it is "wrong", we have the power, and the choice to do so. You on the other hand, don't have a choice, but that's your issue. FFXI doesn't take some Crisis-build monster of a PC to run it.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-10-30 14:22:11
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
considering I don't cheat the system or others no, everything in FFXI I deserve.
lol wut? no sir you don't deserve everything in FFXI
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 14:23:08
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Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
just as it's more efficient to speed on the highway if you want to get to your location faster, it's still against the rules.
Hey, I didn't know FFXI was real life! :O
your cheating affects others negatively, so yes.
So by not cheating in a game, do you feel that you are superior over all of the others who do cheat? Even though they can do things at a faster rate that you can? And what compels you to not buy a PC, as cheap as they are, and put yourself at an advantage?
because cheating others is wrong, and a pc I would buy, wouldn't be cheap. I don't buy headaches, and cheap pcs are headaches. Item dupers were doing things faster, *** still got banned, you're saying you shouldn't be banned? because you should.
Cheating others to get what we want is how people are >_> You can put on a "I'm fair and holy" facade, but it's still the same. While it is "wrong", we have the power, and the choice to do so. You on the other hand, don't have a choice, but that's your issue. FFXI doesn't take some Crisis-build monster of a PC to run it.
just because it's how you are, it doesn't mean it's how everyone is. Don't try to justify your douchebaggery by saying everyone does it, because that's not the case, obviously.
Also duh, but I'll be requiring a build with dedicated video ram, and would like something atleast semi-current, so it's going to run me about 1500$ (wanted the almost 2k model, but had to scale it back a bit :/)
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By Fenrir.Schutz 2010-10-30 14:23:40
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Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
just as it's more efficient to speed on the highway if you want to get to your location faster, it's still against the rules.
Hey, I didn't know FFXI was real life! :O
your cheating affects others negatively, so yes.
So by not cheating in a game, do you feel that you are superior over all of the others who do cheat? Even though they can do things at a faster rate that you can? And what compels you to not buy a PC, as cheap as they are, and put yourself at an advantage?
because cheating others is wrong, and a pc I would buy, wouldn't be cheap. I don't buy headaches, and cheap pcs are headaches. Item dupers were doing things faster, *** still got banned, you're saying you shouldn't be banned? because you should. also when I obtain things, I do feel better than you, because I actually earned what I got, unlike you.
they get it faster and move on to greater and better things before you do
doesn't matter, they still cheated and don't deserve what they got
i'm pretty sure you don't deserve things you got

Normally I don't pick on anyone who posts in this forum, but weren't you the one with the whole "bought account" thing on Quetzalcoatl.Volkom back in the "Crap I Deal with Because of people Selling Account" thread? I guess that's the ultimate in "moving ahead better stronger faster" than others no? ;_;
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 14:23:41
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Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
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considering I don't cheat the system or others no, everything in FFXI I deserve.
lol wut? no sir you don't deserve everything in FFXI
everything I have obtained in FFXI, I deserve, sorry for not being clear.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-30 14:24:03
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considering I don't cheat the system or others no, everything in FFXI I deserve.
Someone is surely on their high horse~
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 14:25:03
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considering I don't cheat the system or others no, everything in FFXI I deserve.
Someone is surely on their high horse~
read post above.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-10-30 14:25:58
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
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considering I don't cheat the system or others no, everything in FFXI I deserve.
Someone is surely on their high horse~
read post above.
I use a GS on my DRK like 98% of the time...do I deserve a caladbolg or a ragnarok?
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ur awl cheetar fgts
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 14:27:30
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
considering I don't cheat the system or others no, everything in FFXI I deserve.
Someone is surely on their high horse~
read post above.
I use a GS on my DRK like 98% of the time...do I deserve a caladbolg or a ragnarok?
fixed original comment, so stfu on this tangent since you know it's stupid.
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra 2010-10-30 14:29:21
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

considering I don't cheat the system or others no, everything I've obtained in FFXI I deserve.

Have you ever used this website called FFXIAH to check your sales or prices?

What? Yes?

Welcome to the cheating club.
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By Haseyo 2010-10-30 14:31:09
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ur awl cheetar fgts

F U GEORGE LUCAS.


And Starwars Episode 1 sucked bawwllllls.

u mad i has moniez n u dnt? lol fgt
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-30 14:31:38
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
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considering I don't cheat the system or others no, everything in FFXI I deserve.
Someone is surely on their high horse~
read post above.
Point still goes :P But seriously, PC users will still use Windower, cheats, bots etc whether you protest it or not. It's an advantage, so clearly, if you have the chance to take an advantage, you will.
Not everyone in the world is a humanitarian looking out for the greater good of everyone and anyone.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2010-10-30 14:31:39
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
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And those who follow the rules gets rewarded how?
SE can't ban those who use Windower because they'd lose most of their players.
the windower itself isn't cheating, however it's plugins are, well it's up to them, however you're still cheating.
Most of the things the plugins do can be calculated normally, it just takes some work. And in the end, it isn't even really affecting gameplay.

Speedhacks and bots, among other things, are the main problem.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 14:31:54
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Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:

considering I don't cheat the system or others no, everything I've obtained in FFXI I deserve.

Have you ever used this website called FFXIAH to check your sales or prices?

What? Yes?

Welcome to the cheating club.
reading data that's available in game but online in a more organized fashion is far from cheating, however using a program to affect claims (unfairly) or any method similar that without the program isn't possible at all, is cheating.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 14:32:57
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Bahamut.Aeronis said:
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Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
considering I don't cheat the system or others no, everything in FFXI I deserve.
Someone is surely on their high horse~
read post above.
Point still goes :P But seriously, PC users will still use Windower, cheats, bots etc whether you protest it or not. It's an advantage, so clearly, if you have the chance to take an advantage, you will.
Not everyone in the world is a humanitarian looking out for the greater good of everyone and anyone.
not everyone will cheat to obtain the advantage, your point is ***.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-10-30 14:33:51
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Ramuh.Laffter said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
And those who follow the rules gets rewarded how?
SE can't ban those who use Windower because they'd lose most of their players.
the windower itself isn't cheating, however it's plugins are, well it's up to them, however you're still cheating.
Most of the things the plugins do can be calculated normally, it just takes some work. And in the end, it isn't even really affecting gameplay.

Speedhacks and bots, among other things, are the main problem.
Oh I have no problem with recast timers or other things of the like, however when people bot or hack, it is cheating and there is a severe problem with it.
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