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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-10-05 22:00:48
Well seeing as rating someone down clearly causes annoyance and distress, and is simply there just as a tool to troll people, I suggest that we remove the rate down button and just keep the Rate up button. That way good threads will be rated up, but people won't be rated down into oblivion for whatever reason. I suggest we still keep a report button though.
I know most people don't care about ratings, I'm pretty much in the same boat, but it would be much better being able to keep a thread on point, and not resort to "you rated me down!!!1!!!!1one!1!" comments.
Fenrir.Schutz said: I've seen other "rating systems" used in various boards. For example in the Codemasters forums (here for F1 2010)...
http://community.codemasters.com/forum/f1-2010-game-1316
...they use stars to rate entire threads instead of individual posts, which is the standard style for vBulletin. I always thought that was handy for seeing which ones were worthwhile reads, even if there was some evidence of trolling and/or derailing going on in the threads themselves.
Here in ffxiah.com, having "too many" negative rate-downs doesn't "collapse" an entry to where is it not viewable like in other forums or boards (like youtube or newsvine, etc.) anyhow, so the value of negative rate-downs ends up being more like 'venting frustration anonymously' or 'I'm too lazy to take up a contrary position to this post but wish to express displeasure' I think.
As a side-note, I always joked to WHM friends that the WHM AF from Dynamis looked like one of those leather 70's hippy jackets. :p
^ agree 100%
Remove the negativity, keep the positivity man!
 inb4 rate downs to prove my point
 Caitsith.Linear
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-10-05 22:18:59
Rated down for talking about the rating system! D:<
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Damn.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2010-10-05 22:21:13
It doesn't really matter what you're rated. I hardly ever see anybody complain about rate-downs except in jest.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-10-05 22:22:22
Ramuh.Laffter said: It doesn't really matter what you're rated. I hardly ever see anybody complain about rate-downs except in jest.
People do. It's half the reason people make alts lol. Check out some religion thread and watch people rage about ratings.
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By Siren.Maximillion 2010-10-05 22:24:41
Since this thread is a waste of bandwidth
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2010-10-05 22:25:58
Shiva.Flionheart said: Ramuh.Laffter said: It doesn't really matter what you're rated. I hardly ever see anybody complain about rate-downs except in jest.
People do. It's half the reason people make alts lol. Check out some religion thread and watch people rage about ratings. If people are going to get stupid over rate-downs, that's their own prerogative. Nothing needs to be changed except to add a filter for stupid people.
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-10-05 22:27:05
Ramuh.Laffter said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Ramuh.Laffter said: It doesn't really matter what you're rated. I hardly ever see anybody complain about rate-downs except in jest.
People do. It's half the reason people make alts lol. Check out some religion thread and watch people rage about ratings. If people are going to get stupid over rate-downs, that's their own prerogative. Nothing needs to be changed except to add a filter for stupid people.
It's called the block button ~
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-10-05 22:27:40
Ramuh.Laffter said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Ramuh.Laffter said: It doesn't really matter what you're rated. I hardly ever see anybody complain about rate-downs except in jest.
People do. It's half the reason people make alts lol. Check out some religion thread and watch people rage about ratings. If people are going to get stupid over rate-downs, that's their own prerogative. Nothing needs to be changed except to add a filter for stupid people.
I don't see the point in the rating system in that case, Better to remove it completely. No point in having something that serves no purpose.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-05 22:28:24
Ramuh.Laffter said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Ramuh.Laffter said: It doesn't really matter what you're rated. I hardly ever see anybody complain about rate-downs except in jest.
People do. It's half the reason people make alts lol. Check out some religion thread and watch people rage about ratings. If people are going to get stupid over rate-downs, that's their own prerogative. Nothing needs to be changed except to add a filter for stupid people.
you wouldn't be able to use the site anymore
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-10-05 22:28:27
Karma bombing makes life worth living, don't take it away from me.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2010-10-05 22:29:02
Carbuncle.Sevourn said: Ramuh.Laffter said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Ramuh.Laffter said: It doesn't really matter what you're rated. I hardly ever see anybody complain about rate-downs except in jest.
People do. It's half the reason people make alts lol. Check out some religion thread and watch people rage about ratings. If people are going to get stupid over rate-downs, that's their own prerogative. Nothing needs to be changed except to add a filter for stupid people.
you wouldn't be able to use the site anymore A system based on productive posts would probably remove you too.
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By Siren.Maximillion 2010-10-05 22:29:07
I'm rating down everyone in this thread, EVERYONE! except for myself cause it makes me feel good.
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-10-05 22:30:11
I think I've seen this thread before. ;O
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By Siren.Eagleeyes 2010-10-05 22:30:12
Siren.Maximillion said: Since this thread is a waste of bandwidth
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-10-05 22:30:52
Siren.Maximillion said: I'm rating down everyone in this thread, EVERYONE! except for myself cause it makes me feel good.
Oh, no you didn't! Don't make me bust out my alts!
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By Siren.Maximillion 2010-10-05 22:31:10
Siren.Eagleeyes said: Siren.Maximillion said: Since this thread is a waste of bandwidth
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHDURFHURFGARGLARLAGBLARHGHARAWR!
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-10-05 22:31:47
You all laugh now, and then we have someone else complaining about rate downs. It's a vicious cycle.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-05 22:31:57
Ramuh.Laffter said: Carbuncle.Sevourn said: Ramuh.Laffter said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Ramuh.Laffter said: It doesn't really matter what you're rated. I hardly ever see anybody complain about rate-downs except in jest.
People do. It's half the reason people make alts lol. Check out some religion thread and watch people rage about ratings. If people are going to get stupid over rate-downs, that's their own prerogative. Nothing needs to be changed except to add a filter for stupid people.
you wouldn't be able to use the site anymore A system based on productive posts would probably remove you too.
i forgot that having 2k
"hi guys"
"lol"
"haha (insert ls: ni female here) that is super funny"
"gotta go, later"
posts in AHLS was the model to strive for
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By Fenrir.Schutz 2010-10-05 22:34:24
I've seen other "rating systems" used in various boards. For example in the Codemasters forums (here for F1 2010)...
http://community.codemasters.com/forum/f1-2010-game-1316
...they use stars to rate entire threads instead of individual posts, which is the standard style for vBulletin. I always thought that was handy for seeing which ones were worthwhile reads, even if there was some evidence of trolling and/or derailing going on in the threads themselves.
Here in ffxiah.com, having "too many" negative rate-downs doesn't "collapse" an entry to where is it not viewable like in other forums or boards (like youtube or newsvine, etc.) anyhow, so the value of negative rate-downs ends up being more like 'venting frustration anonymously' or 'I'm too lazy to take up a contrary position to this post but wish to express displeasure' I think.
EDIT: As a side-note, I always joked to WHM friends that the WHM AF from Dynamis looked like one of those leather 70's hippy jackets. :p
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2010-10-05 22:35:15
Carbuncle.Sevourn said: Ramuh.Laffter said: Carbuncle.Sevourn said: Ramuh.Laffter said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Ramuh.Laffter said: It doesn't really matter what you're rated. I hardly ever see anybody complain about rate-downs except in jest.
People do. It's half the reason people make alts lol. Check out some religion thread and watch people rage about ratings. If people are going to get stupid over rate-downs, that's their own prerogative. Nothing needs to be changed except to add a filter for stupid people.
you wouldn't be able to use the site anymore A system based on productive posts would probably remove you too.
i forgot that having 2k
"hi guys"
"lol"
"haha (insert ls: ni female here) that is super funny"
"gotta go, later"
posts in AHLS was the model to strive for Not sure who you're referring to, because none of that looks like me AT ALL.
Anyway, I wouldn't mind the rating system being taken away; I'm just saying it won't change anything.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-10-05 22:36:30
Fenrir.Schutz said: I've seen other "rating systems" used in various boards. For example in the Codemasters forums (here for F1 2010)...
http://community.codemasters.com/forum/f1-2010-game-1316
...they use stars to rate entire threads instead of individual posts, which is the standard style for vBulletin. I always thought that was handy for seeing which ones were worthwhile reads, even if there was some evidence of trolling and/or derailing going on in the threads themselves.
Here in ffxiah.com, having "too many" negative rate-downs doesn't "collapse" an entry to where is it not viewable like in other forums or boards (like youtube or newsvine, etc.) anyhow, so the value of negative rate-downs ends up being more like 'venting frustration anonymously' or 'I'm too lazy to take up a contrary position to this post but wish to express displeasure' I think.
As a side-note, I always joked to WHM friends that the WHM AF from Dynamis looked like one of those leather 70's hippy jackets. :p
I'd love a thread rating system, I've thought that from day one. It's easy to siphon the crap then and actually find good threads. a 5 star system would be awesome. In fact... I'm going to quote you into the OP lol.
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By Phoenix.Excelior 2010-10-05 22:37:59
Does anyone actually care or give a ***if they get rated down? I would wager not otherwise people would be more tactful.
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By Siren.Eagleeyes 2010-10-05 22:39:03
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Phoenix.Excelior said: Does anyone actually care or give a ***if they get rated down? I would wager not otherwise people would be more tactful. you must had missed that thread ent made a few days ago
found it
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/14786/to-whoever-is-obsessively-stalking-me#887774
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2010-10-05 22:39:08
I like the thread rating system as well, it's more useful when you want good, reliable information.
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2010-10-05 22:41:00
hey flion, who did your avatar? its really awesome
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-05 22:42:16
Ramuh.Laffter said:
Not sure who you're referring to, because none of that looks like me AT ALL.
Anyway, I wouldn't mind the rating system being taken away; I'm just saying it won't change anything.
i guess boring people see their own posts as super witty and entertaining
sort of how people don't mind the smell of their own ***
in any case, i woudn't mention productive posts
you post regularly in a forum about a game you obviously never play
and unlike some former players like Ent, i'm reasonably sure you've never done anything in this game
how do you expect to contribute
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-10-05 22:43:22
Cerberus.Irohuro said: hey flion, who did your avatar? its really awesome I thought it looked really awesome, his other stuff is kick *** too though he won't accept it XD
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2010-10-05 22:44:18
Yawnfest, I'm not here for more of Sevourn's baiting.
It's a nice idea, Flion, but in practice, it probably won't work out the way you want it to.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-05 22:44:35
Phoenix.Excelior said: Does anyone actually care or give a ***if they get rated down? I would wager not otherwise people would be more tactful.
it hurts me so bad
that's why i'm so unfailingly polite to all that i meet
edit: ouch ;;
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Well seeing as rating someone down clearly causes annoyance and distress, and is simply there just as a tool to troll people, I suggest that we remove the rate down button and just keep the Rate up button. That way good threads will be rated up, but people won't be rated down into oblivion for whatever reason. I suggest we still keep a report button though.
I know most people don't care about ratings, I'm pretty much in the same boat, but it would be much better being able to keep a thread on point, and not resort to "you rated me down!!!1!!!!1one!1!" comments.
Fenrir.Schutz said: I've seen other "rating systems" used in various boards. For example in the Codemasters forums (here for F1 2010)...
http://community.codemasters.com/forum/f1-2010-game-1316
...they use stars to rate entire threads instead of individual posts, which is the standard style for vBulletin. I always thought that was handy for seeing which ones were worthwhile reads, even if there was some evidence of trolling and/or derailing going on in the threads themselves.
Here in ffxiah.com, having "too many" negative rate-downs doesn't "collapse" an entry to where is it not viewable like in other forums or boards (like youtube or newsvine, etc.) anyhow, so the value of negative rate-downs ends up being more like 'venting frustration anonymously' or 'I'm too lazy to take up a contrary position to this post but wish to express displeasure' I think.
As a side-note, I always joked to WHM friends that the WHM AF from Dynamis looked like one of those leather 70's hippy jackets. :p
^ agree 100%
Remove the negativity, keep the positivity man!
inb4 rate downs to prove my point
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