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Gil getting hard to come by.. Thanks SE!
Gilgamesh.Xarchangel
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By Gilgamesh.Xarchangel 2010-09-18 13:11:24
The economy has turned to ***, I watched as 40 mil in sellable gear turned to 5-8 mil. Crafting sucks unless you make disposable items, but then they sell so cheap it takes forever to make a decent amount. Demon arrows are the only thing I seem to make that are decent anymore, Being able to HQ them I can pull 100k a day in about 10 minutes of crafting, but the other money makers have gone out the window.
Some people say fishing is the best gil, most them people that make good money off of fishing though use a fishing bot. Of course it is easy to make gil when you can afk for 3 hours and have a script fish and npc for you. Anyone that is doing is legit gets burnt out way to fast to make good gil. So if you really want to make some good gil to buy a relic like these other mf's then go buy a good fishing bot and do it the cheating way like everyone else~
Carbuncle.Zanno
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-09-18 13:15:43
Gilgamesh.Xarchangel said: The economy has turned to ***, I watched as 40 mil in sellable gear turned to 5-8 mil. Crafting sucks unless you make disposable items, but then they sell so cheap it takes forever to make a decent amount. Demon arrows are the only thing I seem to make that are decent anymore, Being able to HQ them I can pull 100k a day in about 10 minutes of crafting, but the other money makers have gone out the window.
Some people say fishing is the best gil, most them people that make good money off of fishing though use a fishing bot. Of course it is easy to make gil when you can afk for 3 hours and have a script fish and npc for you. Anyone that is doing is legit gets burnt out way to fast to make good gil. So if you really want to make some good gil to buy a relic like these other mf's then go buy a good fishing bot and do it the cheating way like everyone else~
While doing the water grass quest, I'm fishing and cooking while waiting on the next game day. Been making good money on that.
By Tavout 2010-09-18 13:25:25
Fishbot Istridyte in Nash. Craftbot Black pearls and pearls with your synthbot. Buy coral fragments off AH everytime you run by, along with your 200+ synth worth of anima's you stockpiled when people actually exp'd in the promies. So for 15K investment sell 15 Reraise Hairpins a day @ 45K each. about 450K profit everyday to every other day till SE kills that synth. They have killed all other bonecraft big gill synths.
Lakshmi.Ricco
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By Lakshmi.Ricco 2010-09-18 13:25:30
I'm starting to wonder if SE is really wanting people to jump ship to 14 lol they sure are shooting themselves in the foot with XI. Nobody wants to exp outside of abyssea its somewhat difficult to make gil unless you have a solid group to farm some of the abyssea nms with or spend all your cruor on gear and sell it :P. I'm down to 14k cruor myself it does net some gil at least
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By Shiva.Darkshade 2010-09-18 13:36:22
What do you *** even need gil for anymore outside of consumables? 95% of the gear in the game is now RARE/EX outside of a few RARE items in Abyssea that you can obtain by joining an Abyssea link shell and killing said NM.
Also cooking/woodworking/alchemy, farm/fish/harvest your own mats.
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By Artemicion 2010-09-18 13:40:16
Kinda sucks for those still getting there or legitimately are starting fresh, but at the very least it shouldn't be too hard to find a friend to help you get there quicker. Only reason to bother keeping old gear now is for BCNMs >.>
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By Shiva.Darkshade 2010-09-18 13:42:49
Oh that's why you need gil. I'll stick to just killing the NMs for my seals [and pay no money.]
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By Shiva.Darkshade 2010-09-18 13:48:06
Artemicion said: Kinda sucks for those still getting there or legitimately are starting fresh, but at the very least it shouldn't be too hard to find a friend to help you get there quicker. Only reason to bother keeping old gear now is for BCNMs >.> Kinda. I imagine the ratio of new players at this point is pretty low though. But at the very least BCNM40s have made a come back with both Ni and Refresh being money makers now with the level cap being raised. Also the same craft consumables/obtain your own mats still applies imho.
EDIT: I just personally feel like there aren't many big items worth paying too much gil for these days with half the gear being obsoleted every 3 months and subject to insane deflation. I feel like most of the good gear be it RA/EX or just RA drops from Abyssea these days and I think buying RA gear is kind of like cheating unless your LS can't get around to it. Most gear from Abyssea isn't too bad to obtain and with both Celerity Abyssites [Lowers Stone refresh from 20 to 12 hours, or 2 stones a day] you can schedule Abyssea 3 times a week.
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Carbuncle.Virtuosus
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By Carbuncle.Virtuosus 2010-09-18 13:55:44
Shiva.Darkshade said: I'll stick to just killing the NMs for my seals [and pay no money.]
This. And killing NMs actually has a better, faster chance of yielding the 8 seals than trading murexes. AND you can solo alot of them.
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By Shiva.Darkshade 2010-09-18 14:00:15
See Virtuosus knows what I'm talking about as a fellow Severer Dismantler.
Also in my personal opinion killing NMs is a lot more fun and exciting than repeating lame *** quests.
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Lakshmi.Ricco
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By Lakshmi.Ricco 2010-09-18 14:30:08
Shiva.Darkshade said: See Virtuosus knows what I'm talking about as a fellow Severer Dismantler.
Also in my personal opinion killing NMs is a lot more fun and exciting than repeating lame *** quests.
ok what if you dont have a job that can solo it?
No need to be a *** nobody in here was before you were so stfu christ
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2010-09-18 14:33:27
Carbuncle.Virtuosus said: Asura.Karbuncle said: Its really easy to make money if you try =0
Just find an item in Abyssea a bunch of idiots are too lazy to farm and sell it severely overpriced.
Like the new Amoeban / Conchshellwhore items, of which you need 3 to complete a certain quest, currently about 50k+, they have like 50% Drop rate and you can Despoil them.
As a THF thats your best bet =P run up to one of the new mobs > Despoil > gtfo > rinse/repeat!
Easy 50k/steal o-o
Edit: I lied, the Amoeban ***is now ~100k on Asura lol.
And the Murex Stuff is 90k~+
Take that back. I need Murex Spicules for my BLU AF3+1 legs, and I've despoiled 30 in a row and gotten 0 items off them. 50% my ***!
Are you sure you just didn't find a mob that had already been Despoiled lol D:?
If it works like steal =x
Lakshmi.Ricco
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By Lakshmi.Ricco 2010-09-18 14:36:19
Asura.Karbuncle said: Carbuncle.Virtuosus said: Asura.Karbuncle said: Its really easy to make money if you try =0
Just find an item in Abyssea a bunch of idiots are too lazy to farm and sell it severely overpriced.
Like the new Amoeban / Conchshellwhore items, of which you need 3 to complete a certain quest, currently about 50k+, they have like 50% Drop rate and you can Despoil them.
As a THF thats your best bet =P run up to one of the new mobs > Despoil > gtfo > rinse/repeat!
Easy 50k/steal o-o
Edit: I lied, the Amoeban ***is now ~100k on Asura lol.
And the Murex Stuff is 90k~+
Take that back. I need Murex Spicules for my BLU AF3+1 legs, and I've despoiled 30 in a row and gotten 0 items off them. 50% my ***!
Are you sure you just didn't find a mob that had already been Despoiled lol D:?
If it works like steal =x
I'm pretty sure yeah there were ppl there killing but i was the only thf i could see doing this and i was running to the ones in the back just to be sure. If it does work like steal though high level should help some
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By Shiva.Darkshade 2010-09-18 15:33:22
I'm sorry you take offense to me. I really meant no harm, such is my usual demeanor of speaking. I wasn't suggesting you solo anything, but I will add that you are playing a PvE MMORPG focused on killing big things for shiny stuff and doing missions for fancy JRPG cut scenes. It might be a good idea to find friends that have similar goals to your own and work together.
The NM seals route seems to be much faster and more interesting at least in my opinion than doing repeatable quests for a small chance at what might not even be what you need. Also *** paying 50k to do said quest.
Carbuncle.Zanno
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-09-18 15:38:47
Shiva.Darkshade said: I'm sorry you take offense to me. I really meant no harm, such is my usual demeanor of speaking. I wasn't suggesting you solo anything, but I will add that you are playing a PvE MMORPG focused on killing big things for shiny stuff and doing missions for fancy JRPG cut scenes. It might be a good idea to find friends that have similar goals to your own and work together.
The NM seals route seems to be much faster and more interesting at least in my opinion than doing repeatable quests for a small chance at what might not even be what you need. Also *** paying 50k to do said quest.
I kind of agree with this. But if you do as I did and started to work on fame and doing random quests from day 1, because no one had any idea where the hell these seals came from, you end up wasting a lot of stones. I have mixed doing quests with killing NM for my seals, currently 6/8 on nin feet.
But thanks to all that I now have 0 stones, and 15 minutes in bank. Far from enough to go and kill anything, but enough to enter, do quest in 2-3 min and hurry out again.
Side note, SE really must love BLM. I could have upgraded 2 BLM feet with all the seals I've gotten, and probably a pair of COR feet as well. NM so far have only dropped BLM and PUP, quest have been giving all seals, but most BLM and COR.
Lakshmi.Ricco
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By Lakshmi.Ricco 2010-09-18 15:40:51
Shiva.Darkshade said: I'm sorry you take offense to me. I really meant no harm, such is my usual demeanor of speaking. I wasn't suggesting you solo anything, but I will add that you are playing a PvE MMORPG focused on killing big things for shiny stuff and doing missions for fancy JRPG cut scenes. It might be a good idea to find friends that have similar goals to your own and work together.
The NM seals route seems to be much faster and more interesting at least in my opinion than doing repeatable quests for a small chance at what might not even be what you need. Also *** paying 50k to do said quest.
Eh Sorry on my part too was getting pissy lol ><
Yeah well for the most part my friends i have are in a HNM ls lol so i might need to shout or something :x
I've heard rdm can solo some of these looks like i might have to relvl that after all.... I'm sure the nms are faster its just finding people to do them with who wont screw you over or want the same seals lol :(
@ Zanno SE hates nin you should know this :P GL on the feet though i look forward to seeing how they help utsu :)
Ragnarok.Harpunnik
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By Ragnarok.Harpunnik 2010-09-18 15:47:07
Shiva.Darkshade said: What do you *** even need gil for anymore outside of consumables? 95% of the gear in the game is now RARE/EX outside of a few RARE items in Abyssea that you can obtain by joining an Abyssea link shell and killing said NM. Also cooking/woodworking/alchemy, farm/fish/harvest your own mats.
Alexandrites
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By Shiva.Darkshade 2010-09-18 15:54:28
Lakshmi.Ricco said: Shiva.Darkshade said: I'm sorry you take offense to me. I really meant no harm, such is my usual demeanor of speaking. I wasn't suggesting you solo anything, but I will add that you are playing a PvE MMORPG focused on killing big things for shiny stuff and doing missions for fancy JRPG cut scenes. It might be a good idea to find friends that have similar goals to your own and work together.
The NM seals route seems to be much faster and more interesting at least in my opinion than doing repeatable quests for a small chance at what might not even be what you need. Also *** paying 50k to do said quest.
Eh Sorry on my part too was getting pissy lol ><
Yeah well for the most part my friends i have are in a HNM ls lol so i might need to shout or something :x
I've heard rdm can solo some of these looks like i might have to relvl that after all.... I'm sure the nms are faster its just finding people to do them with who wont screw you over or want the same seals lol :(
@ Zanno SE hates nin you should know this :P GL on the feet though i look forward to seeing how they help utsu :)
Tell your friends that most HNM drops are becoming worthless these days. The few that aren't will be by Heros of Abyssea unless they add Magian Trials for land god gear.
If your friends don't believe you then they're living in denial.
Carbuncle.Zanno
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-09-18 15:55:15
As far as it goes to making money. I've notice that most people who complains that there's no way of making gil, expect to make like 10 million in a few minutes.
I've sold roughly 20 stacks of sole sushi today, 1 stack of sole sushi +1, and a few +1 singles. This is from fish I fish up myself while waiting on next game day. Sure its not millions upon millions, but its still profit, and in the end it does add up.
Leviathan.Pimpchan
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2010-09-18 16:31:26
Shiva.Darkshade said: abyssea abyssea abyssea
Umadâ„¢ after level 90, no more abyssea for you. Also the best gear has been rare/ex since like .. forever.
Lakshmi.Ricco
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By Lakshmi.Ricco 2010-09-18 16:48:51
Carbuncle.Zanno said: As far as it goes to making money. I've notice that most people who complains that there's no way of making gil, expect to make like 10 million in a few minutes.
I've sold roughly 20 stacks of sole sushi today, 1 stack of sole sushi +1, and a few +1 singles. This is from fish I fish up myself while waiting on next game day. Sure its not millions upon millions, but its still profit, and in the end it does add up.
nah I dont expect to make that much just sucks cause before abyssea my big way of making gil was isnm and selling gold pieces those wernt big gil boosts but they were at least steady lol I try and to besieged but yeah 360 likes to freeze up right before the end almost all the time ><
Leviathan.Hohenheim
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2010-09-18 16:51:20
Carbuncle.Zanno said: As far as it goes to making money. I've notice that most people who complains that there's no way of making gil, expect to make like 10 million in a few minutes.
I've sold roughly 20 stacks of sole sushi today, 1 stack of sole sushi +1, and a few +1 singles. This is from fish I fish up myself while waiting on next game day. Sure its not millions upon millions, but its still profit, and in the end it does add up.
i bet it is millions upon millions ;o One day, I wanted herald's gaiters so my blm/whm could run fast but I knew I was never going to do hnm, so what did I do? I crafted reraise earrings, silver/bullet bullet pouches, and fished my heart out. In the end, 13mil (that's how much they were 7~months ago) wasn't hard to come by. (I managed to get two salvage bodies from that too, people need to learn how to "work")
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By Valefor.Lisamarie 2010-09-18 16:58:24
Seriously, gil is not getting hard to come by. In fact, it is easier to get now than ever before. Cruor is STUPIDLY easy to come by, and the sets sell for 5-8k each to NPC. A few hours of EXP and you've got about 100k gil, which, in this economy, is more than enough for old content items. The new-content items, like abyssea drops, are rather easy to farm up themselves.
Why are you complaining? I made more than 5mil gil since Abyssea came out. I love taking advantage of lazy people.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-09-18 17:01:06
Haven't read the thread, but I distinctly remember when we founded this site ~4 years ago, the loudest and angriest complaints were that gil was so easy to come by, prices were doubling across the board every 3 months or so.
That's actually why we created the "Consumer Price Index" on the front page: to document the problem and give objective backup to the (near constant) forum threads complaining about it.
I find it amusing that since SE listened to their customers, killed inflation cold, and deep-sixed the RMT's cash reserves, we get complaints from the other end.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2010-09-18 17:04:24
Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Haven't read the thread, but I distinctly remember when we founded this site ~4 years ago, the loudest and angriest complaints were that gil was so easy to come by, prices were doubling across the board every 3 months or so.
That's actually why we created the "Consumer Price Index" on the front page: to document the problem and give objective backup to the (near constant) forum threads complaining about it.
I find it amusing that since SE listened to their customers, killed inflation cold, and deep-sixed the RMT's cash reserves, we get complaints from the other end. This is because despite complaints that RMTs were ruining the economy, the fact is that they helped more than the legitimate players.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-09-18 17:04:29
Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Haven't read the thread, but I distinctly remember when we founded this site ~4 years ago, the loudest and angriest complaints were that gil was so easy to come by, prices were doubling across the board every 3 months or so.
That's actually why we created the "Consumer Price Index" on the front page: to document the problem and give objective backup to the (near constant) forum threads complaining about it.
I find it amusing that since SE listened to their customers, killed inflation cold, and deep-sixed the RMT's cash reserves, we get complaints from the other end.
But at the same time, they kill a lot of good farming items by reducing the NPC value to close to nothing.
Lakshmi.Ricco
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By Lakshmi.Ricco 2010-09-18 17:06:06
Valefor.Lisamarie said: Seriously, gil is not getting hard to come by. In fact, it is easier to get now than ever before. Cruor is STUPIDLY easy to come by, and the sets sell for 5-8k each to NPC. A few hours of EXP and you've got about 100k gil, which, in this economy, is more than enough for old content items. The new-content items, like abyssea drops, are rather easy to farm up themselves.
Why are you complaining? I made more than 5mil gil since Abyssea came out. I love taking advantage of lazy people.
well idk about you but with TH4 im 0/12 on Thew Bomblet not everyone has the same luck lol I actually try some of the nms but I usually don't see drops unless its for others /sigh
Lakshmi.Ricco
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By Lakshmi.Ricco 2010-09-18 17:11:31
Bismarck.Dracondria said: Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Haven't read the thread, but I distinctly remember when we founded this site ~4 years ago, the loudest and angriest complaints were that gil was so easy to come by, prices were doubling across the board every 3 months or so.
That's actually why we created the "Consumer Price Index" on the front page: to document the problem and give objective backup to the (near constant) forum threads complaining about it.
I find it amusing that since SE listened to their customers, killed inflation cold, and deep-sixed the RMT's cash reserves, we get complaints from the other end.
But at the same time, they kill a lot of good farming items by reducing the NPC value to close to nothing.
great example the weapons in castle zhavl lol I used to farm those up like crazy and make great money :(
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By Odin.Godofgods 2010-09-18 17:25:16
Its hard for some now, cause its kinda inbetween the needing gill for everything, vs trial/accuire everything.
While gill is still needed for a lot of stuff, i personaly would rather the trial type system. Iv always hated the money consept in this game. Alls it ever does is breed more greedy and arrogent ppl. (and we have enough of that irl)
Its also a lot harder on thoes that arnt on the game as often. However the trial system allows you to have good equipment, that gets stronger the more effort you put into strenghting it. Its only problem is that the trials are so tedious and time consuming (such as waiting on weather). While they should be incresingly challenging, the lvl of bordem and annoyence the current trials hold is incedably high.
Now if all equipment/weaps were trial it would seriously change the landscape, but with only a small portion of it trails and all equip 75 or less still needs to be bought, these problems will accure.
Even tho i dont have a clue how im goign to get any of them done atm, id still rather work on trials and upgradeing equip, then simply spend more time farming/crafting/hunting to get the same old gill to buy more stuff.
Really though SE has killed the games economy which really pisses me off if you want a decent weapon you have to spend hours and hours doing annoying tedious magian trials.
I just don't know what to even do to make gil anymore crafting sucks and is a waste really now a days most things I can farm don't give the solid return they used to and now with this last update you can't even tele whore anymore since people can warp directly to maws. :( I saw 3 tele shouts in 45 min in whitegate thats really sad imo unless you have a group to kill nms that drop things people want I don't really see a way to make gil in FFXI anymore except the slow and low gil/hour of npc'n stuff.
Any thoughts anyone?
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