Walk Of Echo's (coin Farming)

theres about 3 of us now looking for about 6-8 man group that want to farm coins ONLY not going for the win. just send me a /tell in game and let me know if u wanna run with us!

um what coins are you talking bout? (never bothered with a echoes run before so kinda curious)

Ima try to start doing runs tonight around 9 EST.

Yeah this guy likes to leach ppls runs. But kinda fails at staying alive

sorry kid dont need to leech off ur LS i didn't leech anything and i didn't asked for help i was in the zone first before any of ur LS came in so u can suck me. i didn't take 1 thing that dropped and didn't want ***from u guys i had been soloing all day for coins they ur LS showed up and just took over the zone so you can *** OFF ***.

Rawwwwwwwwwwr

for real i had done like 8 run before and im waiting at rune for mobs to reset and the Leader what like what do u think ur doing like they own the WOE area and i was im going in to solo some mobs, and the leader was like no ur not. (just a another LS that think they own the world) i was like w/e ima just do what id been doing. i would of kindly went for another zone but the leader had to smartoff to me, now that i think of it i should of brought all the mobs down to them...

I hate when people say "leech" off others' LS runs.

This is the way SE designed WoE , anyone can join in , regardless if you organized the run or not , you can't stop them from joining in.

Blame SE for making it public then or don't bash people around for joining in to farm coins.

I'm really interested, depending on your times, i ll be there! i need coin of advancement for the polearm (cerastes+1), got PLD/BRD80 DRG85, PM me or send me a tell IG^^

If you can't "leech" off a WoE run then you can't really "take over" a zone either (which is what the OP claims my ls did). Unless you bring enough people to actually fill the zone to max capacity, which we obviously didn't.

yeah but still he calling me a leech when i didn't lot anything and didn't take anything that dropped, and didn't earn 1 thing, maybe someone should tell him what leeching really means?

But still... WoE is very hard to win and you wanting to farm some coins while a LS is trying to go for boss drops is not cool now is it? You may not be leeching but you are definitely messing up their strategy. If you want to farm coins, that's great. However, I think you should do it in another battlefield.

Of course, I haven't done WoE since update so mob behavior might be different. They used to be really moody though.

how did i mess their run up i had been doing the same 1 in a row for 8 runs i had already entered then they came in after i did

Thats not necissarily a bad thing, joining their run means you might have a chance at looting a coin bag(cant remember exactly what there called) but they drop like 5-10coins when used and that they can come in any time works both ways. Sure they can "Takeover" (for lack of any better way of putting it) but if you earn that top 5 slot your free to lot, they could easily wait for you to time out but if they chose not to well thats their problem...
PS im interested in farming coins so look me up if ever looking for members

Well I have just done a low-man conflux 2 run.

And yes, it is totally possible to leech in WoE. A few other ppl came in - a war, a bst, couple of others. Nothing that could have beat 4 Morbid Mollasses. We kill the boss, coin pouch drops. My pt member gets outlotted by one of the other ppl there, that contributed absolutely nothing towards the win. I know it's how SE designed it, but that is still leeching.

Same thing happened to us lowmanning yesterday. We had 3 bosses down, and had pulled the 4th when a few people came in and killed some singles to get lotting rights while we did the boss.

I very politely told them that our group killed the bosses for the purpose of getting coins for our members. While we would prefer they didn't lot any of the drops (which they in no way contributed to), it was most important for us that they leave the coins alone.

Needless to say, they lotted everything in the pool, including last a last minute ninja on the coin pouch. I had held off lotting suspecting it might happen, and kept them from getting it. However, the person who needed those coins (and would have been within 5 of completing their weapon with it) lost out because of people who didn't contribute.

That is, in my opinion, the most obvious kind of leeching. It's not like afking in an party and getting exp you didn't earn without causing much dmg to the other people there. It's directly depriving people who put in work and planning for an event of their earned reward out of greed.

The worst part of it is how discouraging it is to the people who put in 40 min of work to get the drops, knowing any random person can come in and take it away from them.

Anyone with a bit of common decency would just take their soloing/lowman to another conflux.

inc "I pay for this game with my own money and I do as I want!"

I never did WOE you dont have exclusive access to the area when you enter? So anyone can walk in and fight mobs and lot on drops you have?

Pretty much. It's like doing Einherjar with with no lamps. Imagine doing a chamber, and a random guy comes in and dd's one mob, then lots your Abjs.

Hey Tamoa, you're wrong.

If the person contributed nothing towards the win, they wouldn't have been able to see the loot pool. (Unless they just changed it at this last update that the entire zone now sees the loot pool. It used to be only people that got enough exp to qualify.)

Also, I can almost solo the Morbid Mollasses now on my mnk. So, who cares if people come in to leech?

Full zone. If you come in and do any exp action (cure, toss out a nuke) you'll qualify. Last run I did a Pup did 1 nuke on a single mob and made the pool.

People who want drops? If you go in and solo, and I entered, cured you once and lotted all your drops, you'd be comfortable with that?

If so, I have a mule I'd love to move to your server.

They killed 2 or 3 small crabs, that's all. And that's not contributing towards the win, my pt did a run before this with nobody else present, we didn't touch the small crabs at all but killed all the Morbid Mollasses.

How much exp do you get by only killing the big blobs? We get anywhere from 8k to 14k by killing the small ones too.

If you want to transfer a healer over here to keep me alive and let me solo the blobs, I dont care if you lot. Go for it.

Ok well since people seem to be reading this how do you want us to contribute then?

The fact is regardless of how people feel these battlefields should be run they are an open event. I have tryed to be nice about it asking people what they want me to do and what not but generally i get the whole gtfo or just plain silence.

If they are any good at what they do, you won't get one of the top 5 chests. You'll only be able to see the big loot pool.

If you're getting in the top 5 chest slot without a bard or cor giving you buffs, then their DDs suck.

Cor can't be beat in this event FYI. A good Cor will put up the top numbers every time because of the buffing/curing/physical/magical damage output.

At our runs our best cor puts up between 12k and 14k exp per run and the closest to him is usually the top physical DD with like 7-9k.

So if you're reading this and your cor kicks some serious ***, bring it to someone else's Walk of Echoes run if you want coins.

As support, I typically get 8k or so in 4th/5th place. As DD or sac pull usually around 11k for top placers. TBH though, all my jobs are already capped, no one I know does Abyssea for xp.

If I'm in there, I'm in there for drops. Consequently, I'd like you to go to one of the other confluxes. Yes, it's an open battlefield, just like exp camps were open. That doesn't mean anyone enjoyed when a second party would come and camp on top of them at birds.

You have other options, you can easily grab 4 people and do a battlefield of your own without lowering the rewards for other people. Short of that, stay out of the way and don't lot my coins is what I'd say. If we needed more people, we would have brought them.

I see both sides of the arguement. But in the end SE is to blame for even allowing this conflict to happen. Not everybody is honest and considerate.

I mainly joined to see how to fight them and get some risk free skill ups. I had no intention of lotting coins as I was told.

With that being said,is there a way to keep the integrity of the game and still have fun as the game intended?

Yeah, you were really cool about it in the run you entered on.

One thing that I think could work is two small groups, both capable of defeating bosses on their own and pulling without linking, each taking half the mobs. That kind of fair division of duties would make runs go faster and be a leech free way to split the spoils, so everyone could get more runs in.

Of course, both groups would have to agree to the same lotting rules to avoid drama, but it could definitely be done.

we need to open #4, #6 and #5 again, where no random noobs can simply come in and beat it! there are also several strats to get rid of randoms, vosdementis people feel free to ask me some in game!

I think SE should have just gave the option for people to purchase a 'lamp' to make a private event at any time. Not too cheap for any random player to want to lock it and solo alone, and not to expensive that bigger shells wouldn't want to use that option.