not trying to derail the thread or anything but i saw this on the news yesterday and it was pretty disturbing.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/connecticut_doctor_whose_family_eWPz3N9foeiSbXiWwlizKJ
how could a lawyer defend people like this...
***like that needs the death penalty and have it televised. but thats just my opinion.
Lack Of Responsibility
Lack of responsibility
Cerberus.Hatekhaos said:
not trying to derail the thread or anything but i saw this on the news yesterday and it was pretty disturbing. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/connecticut_doctor_whose_family_eWPz3N9foeiSbXiWwlizKJ how could a lawyer defend people like this... ***like that needs the death penalty and have it televised. but thats just my opinion.
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
People still watch the news?
>.>
<.<
I do not watch it for the news.
Phoenix.Airbag said:
Ramuh.Krizz said:
The reason I hate politics is because of all the people that can't think for themselves. If you agree with every single proposition your party makes, then there's a problem. I will never associate myself with a political party. I look at issues one at a time, and base my opinion off of what I believe. I couldn't care less which party supports my beliefs.
Whats funny is that you think your individuality is rewarded with consideration by someone who matters when deciding these topics
Hmm, from deathpenalty.org:
"California taxpayers pay at least $117 million each year post-trial seeking execution of the people currently on death row;"
Even if this is only partially true, why is the system set up like this? Is there ever a reason to spend this much money trying to put someone to death? We didn't always use to spend this much, we just executed people who we found guilty of heinous crimes and life went on. It was a part of life that if you break the law there are consequences. I don't doubt that there were many false convictions. Now a days with DNA, false convictions are down aren't they, by alot right?
So why do we (CA) spend more money today pursuing the death penalty, when we have never been more certain of the conviction?
This is what drives people nuts!
"California taxpayers pay at least $117 million each year post-trial seeking execution of the people currently on death row;"
Even if this is only partially true, why is the system set up like this? Is there ever a reason to spend this much money trying to put someone to death? We didn't always use to spend this much, we just executed people who we found guilty of heinous crimes and life went on. It was a part of life that if you break the law there are consequences. I don't doubt that there were many false convictions. Now a days with DNA, false convictions are down aren't they, by alot right?
So why do we (CA) spend more money today pursuing the death penalty, when we have never been more certain of the conviction?
This is what drives people nuts!
Ramuh.Krizz said:
Phoenix.Airbag said:
Ramuh.Krizz said:
The reason I hate politics is because of all the people that can't think for themselves. If you agree with every single proposition your party makes, then there's a problem. I will never associate myself with a political party. I look at issues one at a time, and base my opinion off of what I believe. I couldn't care less which party supports my beliefs.
Cerberus.Zandra said:
So why do we (CA) spend more money today pursuing the death penalty, when we have never been more certain of the conviction?
Unfortunately that's not how it works. The degree of punishment in our system isn't tied to the degree of evidence. You either "did it" or you didn't.
Most capital punishment cases still have no DNA or other hard proof. In fact, we recently killed a dude in Texas for arson where the jury, the judge, and the district attorney all admitted after the fact that he was probably innocent. There was no DNA or other hard evidence. It was all circumstantial.
That kinda bothers me.
I'd be interested to know the number of people sentenced to life in prison and death each year. Is the system skewed either way? I mean, maybe there's not enough room in prisons to incarcerate all of them. However, people wait 10-20+ years to actually be executed so they must have room somewhere.
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Ramuh.Krizz said:
Phoenix.Airbag said:
Ramuh.Krizz said:
The reason I hate politics is because of all the people that can't think for themselves. If you agree with every single proposition your party makes, then there's a problem. I will never associate myself with a political party. I look at issues one at a time, and base my opinion off of what I believe. I couldn't care less which party supports my beliefs.
I don't feel my vote counts as much on a federal level as it does on a local level, I participate in the things I can effect or want to effect.
Other than that I /shrug.
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
I'd be interested to know the number of people sentenced to life in prison and death each year. Is the system skewed either way? I mean, maybe there's not enough room in prisons to incarcerate all of them. However, people wait 10-20+ years to actually be executed so they must have room somewhere.
My solution. Use inmates to build more prisons!!!
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
I'd be interested to know the number of people sentenced to life in prison and death each year. Is the system skewed either way? I mean, maybe there's not enough room in prisons to incarcerate all of them. However, people wait 10-20+ years to actually be executed so they must have room somewhere.
My solution. Use inmates to build more prisons!!!
Homicide's illegal and death is the penalty
What justifies the homicide, when he dies?
What justifies the homicide, when he dies?
Phoenix.Airbag said:
Homicide's illegal and death is the penalty
What justifies the homicide, when he dies?
What justifies the homicide, when he dies?
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
Phoenix.Airbag said:
Homicide's illegal and death is the penalty
What justifies the homicide, when he dies?
What justifies the homicide, when he dies?
This.
I was just dropping some wutang on this thread, idc either way
Phoenix.Airbag said:
I was just dropping some wutang on this thread, idc either way
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
I'd be interested to know the number of people sentenced to life in prison and death each year. Is the system skewed either way? I mean, maybe there's not enough room in prisons to incarcerate all of them. However, people wait 10-20+ years to actually be executed so they must have room somewhere.
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
I'd be interested to know the number of people sentenced to life in prison and death each year. Is the system skewed either way? I mean, maybe there's not enough room in prisons to incarcerate all of them. However, people wait 10-20+ years to actually be executed so they must have room somewhere.
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
I'd be interested to know the number of people sentenced to life in prison and death each year. Is the system skewed either way? I mean, maybe there's not enough room in prisons to incarcerate all of them. However, people wait 10-20+ years to actually be executed so they must have room somewhere.
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
I'd be interested to know the number of people sentenced to life in prison and death each year. Is the system skewed either way? I mean, maybe there's not enough room in prisons to incarcerate all of them. However, people wait 10-20+ years to actually be executed so they must have room somewhere.
Edit: Don't get me started on sex scenes. Horrible exploitation of actors and actresses bodies in order to attract more people to the movies. And it works! >:|
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
I'd be interested to know the number of people sentenced to life in prison and death each year. Is the system skewed either way? I mean, maybe there's not enough room in prisons to incarcerate all of them. However, people wait 10-20+ years to actually be executed so they must have room somewhere.
Edit: Don't get me started on sex scenes. Horrible exploitation of actors and actresses bodies in order to attract more people to the movies. And it works! >:|
And of course sex is awesome. On a side note did you see machete!?! Omg so much titties
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Most capital punishment cases still have no DNA or other hard proof. In fact, we recently killed a dude in Texas for arson where the jury, the judge, and the district attorney all admitted after the fact that he was probably innocent. There was no DNA or other hard evidence. It was all circumstantial.
That kinda bothers me.
That kinda bothers me.
That kinda bothers me too however the justice system was also designed so that jurors were to decide the outcomes of cases. This is a good thing because its better that you're convicted by your peers than by some board or individual appointed by the government (yikes). You can't be implying that a jury shouldn't be afforded the responsibility of deciding what is beyond a reasonable doubt right (however stupid or prejudice they may be)?
I'm not saying that the system is perfect, in fact I admit that it's far from perfect, but it will NEVER BE PERFECT. Regardless of that, the death penalty is still a good idea, it is a deterrent to the people who would commit heinous crimes in the future.
Phoenix.Airbag said:
Homicide's illegal and death is the penalty
What justifies the homicide, when he dies?
What justifies the homicide, when he dies?
Killing and murder are different things. This is why our troops aren't considered monsters but instead heroes.
Cerberus.Zandra said:
Phoenix.Airbag said:
Homicide's illegal and death is the penalty What justifies the homicide, when he dies?
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
I'd be interested to know the number of people sentenced to life in prison and death each year. Is the system skewed either way? I mean, maybe there's not enough room in prisons to incarcerate all of them. However, people wait 10-20+ years to actually be executed so they must have room somewhere.
Edit: Don't get me started on sex scenes. Horrible exploitation of actors and actresses bodies in order to attract more people to the movies. And it works! >:|
And of course sex is awesome. On a side note did you see machete!?! Omg so much titties
Anyway, I think it gives people a fictional view of relationships and can be bad when people have trouble separating fiction from reality. >.<
Cerberus.Zandra said:
You can't be implying that a jury shouldn't be afforded the responsibility of deciding what is beyond a reasonable doubt right (however stupid or prejudice they may be)?
That is, you kill someone and get convicted. But in one case, it's circumstantial or based on (potentially really shaky) eye-witness testimony. There's nothing physical linking you to the crime. In the other, your DNA is all over the scene. And there's a video of you capping the guy.
It strikes me that we should encourage some sort of rational scale there, between the death penalty and life in prison. The way it is right now, it's mostly up to the luck of the draw, and whether or not you get a jury that happens to be in a hangin' mood.
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Yeah but it is kinda nice to have it work out in the end. Unlike rl. And of course sex is awesome. On a side note did you see machete!?! Omg so much titties
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Caitsith.Zefiris said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Yeah but it is kinda nice to have it work out in the end. Unlike rl. And of course sex is awesome. On a side note did you see machete!?! Omg so much titties
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