God Did Not Create The Universe, Says Hawking

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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-02 21:40:27
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Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
EtienneLoire said:
If no one has not been close to dying before, of have died they are the ones who know the answers btw...




It really hurt my head too.
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By Ragnarok.Twinbladehaseo 2010-09-02 21:40:32
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of course because you seen many holy-paramedics there.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-02 21:40:49
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I almost died and science saved my ***.

Not really, just saying.

If I get sick or someone gets sick, I go to a hospital. Not a church.

Yeah me too since god can't cure or save ***.

Yeah lol, I wonder why people can't understand that.

Beats me...

Did Etie just bring up that story about the Russian and his memories.

When it has been scientifically proven you can't remember anything vividly except short bursts of images before the age of 4? And anything at all before the age of 1?

Yeah I saw that too lmfao, I wonder if he believes everything people tell him.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-02 21:41:09
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I almost died and science saved my ***.

Not really, just saying.

If I get sick or someone gets sick, I go to a hospital. Not a church.

Yeah me too since god can't cure or save ***.

Yeah lol, I wonder why people can't understand that.

Beats me...

Did Etie just bring up that story about the Russian and his memories.

When it has been scientifically proven you can't remember anything vividly except short bursts of images before the age of 4? And anything at all before the age of 1?

Yup. He also said he stayed up for a month straight and can remote view things before.

***'s old man!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-02 21:41:22
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I almost died and science saved my ***.

Not really, just saying.

If I get sick or someone gets sick, I go to a hospital. Not a church.

Yeah me too since god can't cure or save ***.

Yeah lol, I wonder why people can't understand that.

Beats me...

Did Etie just bring up that story about the Russian and his memories.

When it has been scientifically proven you can't remember anything vividly except short bursts of images before the age of 4? And anything at all before the age of 1?

Yeah I saw that too lmfao, I wonder if he believes everything people tell him.

Maybe if you tell him god doesn't exist, he'll believe it.
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By EtienneLoire 2010-09-02 21:41:25
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ragnarok.Twinbladehaseo said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
So this thread has come down to picking on small errors instead of interesting debate?

Just wondering because I'll just leave now.

do you believe or not believe?

I believe that there is not a god in the traditional sense, but I also believe to completely deny any possibility of a higher power would be ignorant due to how little we know in the grand scheme of things.

I'm not saying there's a god that created us for one second, I'm just saying for how completely ignorant we are, it would be arrogance to claim to know anything within a shadow of a doubt.

So you proved my point, I say the same thing but i hide between the fences staying neutral. You yourself just gave such a arrogant statement. If humans are arrogant for wanting to know the truth, that includes you too. I always say there is something out there, wait ... I "think" there is something out there.

So I am arrogant for saying such a thing?

The human race are not the only beings in the universe, I say this. Does this make me arrogant also, because it is a known fact. there are plenty of galaxies unless it is reflections of only our galaxy when it was in it's building stage, in some infinite time loop...

No. You say things like "I can remember from when I was 1, so this proves that we get reincarnated"

My post was complete subjective opinion.

I can remember up to 3 months old to be exact.

There was some famous Russian inventor who remembered his memories from inside the womb, feel stupid yet?

Because being Russian, and an inventor suddenly makes anything you say completely true when there is no proof to back it up.

well unless you do not have the "brain power" to remember something as a baby, or before you were one years old. When psychologists spew it is impossible and mark it at three years old?
 
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-09-02 21:41:52
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
EtienneLoire said:
If no one has not been close to dying before, of have died they are the ones who know the answers btw...




It really hurt my head too.

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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-02 21:42:08
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I almost died and science saved my ***.

Not really, just saying.

If I get sick or someone gets sick, I go to a hospital. Not a church.

Yeah me too since god can't cure or save ***.

Yeah lol, I wonder why people can't understand that.

Beats me...

Did Etie just bring up that story about the Russian and his memories.

When it has been scientifically proven you can't remember anything vividly except short bursts of images before the age of 4? And anything at all before the age of 1?

Yeah I saw that too lmfao, I wonder if he believes everything people tell him.

Maybe if you tell him god doesn't exist, he'll believe it.

No no, he has special permission from god to believe in god.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-02 21:42:37
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I almost died and science saved my ***.

Not really, just saying.

If I get sick or someone gets sick, I go to a hospital. Not a church.

Yeah me too since god can't cure or save ***.

Yeah lol, I wonder why people can't understand that.

Beats me...

Did Etie just bring up that story about the Russian and his memories.

When it has been scientifically proven you can't remember anything vividly except short bursts of images before the age of 4? And anything at all before the age of 1?

Yeah I saw that too lmfao, I wonder if he believes everything people tell him.

Maybe if you tell him god doesn't exist, he'll believe it.

No no, he has special permission from god to believe in god.

LOL @ that comment Spicy just made about abortion being legal XD.
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-02 21:42:48
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I almost died and science saved my ***.

Not really, just saying.

If I get sick or someone gets sick, I go to a hospital. Not a church.

Yeah me too since god can't cure or save ***.

Yeah lol, I wonder why people can't understand that.

Beats me...

Did Etie just bring up that story about the Russian and his memories.

When it has been scientifically proven you can't remember anything vividly except short bursts of images before the age of 4? And anything at all before the age of 1?

Yeah I saw that too lmfao, I wonder if he believes everything people tell him.

Maybe if you tell him god doesn't exist, he'll believe it.

No no, he has special permission from god to believe in god.

LOL @ that comment Spicy just made about abortion being legal XD.

Yeah that was funny lol.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-02 21:43:02
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inside the womb babies don't create solid memories, they dream when they have a brain capable of it, and when they begin to percieve it mixes with those dreams.
i wonder what kind of memories you could get out of there...maybe a mix of mushrooms and pills can tell you?
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By EtienneLoire 2010-09-02 21:43:26
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Either way, if someone wants to believe in "it", so be it, it will not kill you, or anyone.

Prince.. when I mentioned almost dying I was not talking about being saved by paremedics, obviously I was at my home.

I do not feel like going into details unless my mind played games with me at the moment.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-02 21:44:50
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EtienneLoire said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ragnarok.Twinbladehaseo said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
So this thread has come down to picking on small errors instead of interesting debate?

Just wondering because I'll just leave now.

do you believe or not believe?

I believe that there is not a god in the traditional sense, but I also believe to completely deny any possibility of a higher power would be ignorant due to how little we know in the grand scheme of things.

I'm not saying there's a god that created us for one second, I'm just saying for how completely ignorant we are, it would be arrogance to claim to know anything within a shadow of a doubt.

So you proved my point, I say the same thing but i hide between the fences staying neutral. You yourself just gave such a arrogant statement. If humans are arrogant for wanting to know the truth, that includes you too. I always say there is something out there, wait ... I "think" there is something out there.

So I am arrogant for saying such a thing?

The human race are not the only beings in the universe, I say this. Does this make me arrogant also, because it is a known fact. there are plenty of galaxies unless it is reflections of only our galaxy when it was in it's building stage, in some infinite time loop...

No. You say things like "I can remember from when I was 1, so this proves that we get reincarnated"

My post was complete subjective opinion.

I can remember up to 3 months old to be exact.

There was some famous Russian inventor who remembered his memories from inside the womb, feel stupid yet?

Because being Russian, and an inventor suddenly makes anything you say completely true when there is no proof to back it up.

well unless you do not have the "brain power" to remember something as a baby, or before you were one years old. When psychologists spew it is impossible and mark it at three years old?

No please carry on. The grave you're digging saves me work.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-02 21:45:01
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Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
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I almost died and science saved my ***.

Not really, just saying.

If I get sick or someone gets sick, I go to a hospital. Not a church.

Yeah me too since god can't cure or save ***.

Yeah lol, I wonder why people can't understand that.

Beats me...

Did Etie just bring up that story about the Russian and his memories.

When it has been scientifically proven you can't remember anything vividly except short bursts of images before the age of 4? And anything at all before the age of 1?

Yeah I saw that too lmfao, I wonder if he believes everything people tell him.

Maybe if you tell him god doesn't exist, he'll believe it.

No no, he has special permission from god to believe in god.

LOL @ that comment Spicy just made about abortion being legal XD.

Yeah that was funny lol.

He thinks god saved him with his super natural powers.

I think his ability to regenerate kicked in. And saved him.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-02 21:45:15
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EtienneLoire said:
Either way, if someone wants to believe in "it", so be it, it will not kill you, or anyone.

Prince.. when I mentioned almost dying I was not talking about being saved by paremedics, obviously I was at my home.

I do not feel like going into details unless my mind played games with me at the moment.


it did play games with you at that moment.
 
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By EtienneLoire 2010-09-02 21:45:47
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Phoenix.Darki said:
inside the womb babies don't create solid memories, they dream when they have a brain capable of it, and when they begin to percieve it mixes with those dreams.
i wonder what kind of memories you could get out of there...maybe a mix of mushrooms and pills can tell you?

did you read that from a text book darki, seeing as how you have only been a mother for what 3 months? less than one..

Compared to someone like me who has taken care of babies and raised nephews for over 10 years.

Grabbing a book to learn how to be a parent looks pathetic in my eyes.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-02 21:45:56
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I almost died and science saved my ***.

Not really, just saying.

If I get sick or someone gets sick, I go to a hospital. Not a church.

Yeah me too since god can't cure or save ***.

Yeah lol, I wonder why people can't understand that.

Beats me...

Did Etie just bring up that story about the Russian and his memories.

When it has been scientifically proven you can't remember anything vividly except short bursts of images before the age of 4? And anything at all before the age of 1?

Yeah I saw that too lmfao, I wonder if he believes everything people tell him.

Maybe if you tell him god doesn't exist, he'll believe it.

No no, he has special permission from god to believe in god.

LOL @ that comment Spicy just made about abortion being legal XD.

Yeah that was funny lol.

He thinks god saved him with his super natural powers.

I think his ability to regenerate kicked in. And saved him.

Yeah if it was a bloody type near death experience, good thing blood clots in normal people huh lol...
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-02 21:47:24
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EtienneLoire said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
inside the womb babies don't create solid memories, they dream when they have a brain capable of it, and when they begin to percieve it mixes with those dreams.
i wonder what kind of memories you could get out of there...maybe a mix of mushrooms and pills can tell you?

did you read that from a text book darki, seeing as how you have only been a mother for what 3 months? less than one..

Compared to someone like me who has taken care of babies and raised nephews for over 10 years.

Grabbing a book to learn how to be a parent looks pathetic in my eyes.

Don't even go there Stan. As much as I generally dislike Darki, she's a better parent than you for one simple fact: She gave birth.

Stop pretending you know anything about bringing up kids. And bringing up kids pertains very little to the topic at hand.
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-02 21:47:28
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I almost died and science saved my ***.

Not really, just saying.

If I get sick or someone gets sick, I go to a hospital. Not a church.

Yeah me too since god can't cure or save ***.

Yeah lol, I wonder why people can't understand that.

Beats me...

Did Etie just bring up that story about the Russian and his memories.

When it has been scientifically proven you can't remember anything vividly except short bursts of images before the age of 4? And anything at all before the age of 1?

Yeah I saw that too lmfao, I wonder if he believes everything people tell him.

Maybe if you tell him god doesn't exist, he'll believe it.

No no, he has special permission from god to believe in god.

LOL @ that comment Spicy just made about abortion being legal XD.

Yeah that was funny lol.

He thinks god saved him with his super natural powers.

I think his ability to regenerate kicked in. And saved him.

Yeah if it was a bloody type near death experience, good thing blood clots in normal people huh lol...

Dude, your gf is yelling at you for talking to a bunch of religious people online. Shouldn't be get going?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-02 21:47:53
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I almost died and science saved my ***.

Not really, just saying.

If I get sick or someone gets sick, I go to a hospital. Not a church.

Yeah me too since god can't cure or save ***.

Yeah lol, I wonder why people can't understand that.

Beats me...

Did Etie just bring up that story about the Russian and his memories.

When it has been scientifically proven you can't remember anything vividly except short bursts of images before the age of 4? And anything at all before the age of 1?

Yeah I saw that too lmfao, I wonder if he believes everything people tell him.

Maybe if you tell him god doesn't exist, he'll believe it.

No no, he has special permission from god to believe in god.

LOL @ that comment Spicy just made about abortion being legal XD.

Yeah that was funny lol.

He thinks god saved him with his super natural powers.

I think his ability to regenerate kicked in. And saved him.

Yeah if it was a bloody type near death experience, good thing blood clots in normal people huh lol...

Dude, your gf is yelling at you for talking to a bunch of religious people online. Shouldn't be get going?

Yeah, kinda sucks she believes in a supernatural being too...
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-02 21:47:56
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EtienneLoire said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
inside the womb babies don't create solid memories, they dream when they have a brain capable of it, and when they begin to percieve it mixes with those dreams.
i wonder what kind of memories you could get out of there...maybe a mix of mushrooms and pills can tell you?

did you read that from a text book darki, seeing as how you have only been a mother for what 3 months? less than one..

Compared to someone like me who has taken care of babies and raised nephews for over 10 years.

Grabbing a book to learn how to be a parent looks pathetic in my eyes.


it's more pathetic to assume you know everything.
and no, it doesn't take a text book to figure that out. Parenting books have nothing to do with that kind of science.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-02 21:48:54
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How do you know god wants to be called god?

How dare you impose a 3 letter word on something so almighty.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-09-02 21:49:06
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/shoots self(this is in regards to the Prince marathon lol)
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By EtienneLoire 2010-09-02 21:49:18
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That russian scientist and inventor is the one who spoke about it.

he could have been inside he womb past due and some how remembered being born. who knows.


But anyway, not my fault I can remember before one years old and some people can not.

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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-02 21:49:35
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And people wonder why I flame Stan.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-02 21:50:16
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EtienneLoire said:
That russian scientist and inventor is the one who spoke about it.

he could have been inside he womb past due and some how remembered being born. who knows.


But anyway, not my fault I can remember before one years old and some people can not.


You believe in god and you remember stuff before 12 months of life.

You are awesome.

We call those people savants.

A form of spectral autism.
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