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God did not create the universe, says Hawking
By EtienneLoire 2010-09-02 21:23:20
Phoenix.Darki said: Caitsith.Mahayaya said: "I saw a special on Discovery where this guy that was a janitor disproved Hawking in his theory of black holes and he diasappearance of light into one...... just cuz he is brilliant doesnt mean he's right bout everything...... he cant get out to see the world anyway.......unless he puts some 4x4 and mud tires on that go cart of his....."
lol.. someone has seen Good Will Hunting a few too many times. at least he makes money, kiddo.
and a cripple
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-02 21:24:19
Ragnarok.Twinbladehaseo said: Shiva.Flionheart said: So this thread has come down to picking on small errors instead of interesting debate?
Just wondering because I'll just leave now.
do you believe or not believe?
I believe that there is not a god in the traditional sense, but I also believe to completely deny any possibility of a higher power would be ignorant due to how little we know in the grand scheme of things.
I'm not saying there's a god that created us for one second, I'm just saying for how completely ignorant we are, it would be arrogance to claim to know anything within a shadow of a doubt.
By Saiii 2010-09-02 21:27:44
Shiva.Flionheart said: Ragnarok.Twinbladehaseo said: Shiva.Flionheart said: So this thread has come down to picking on small errors instead of interesting debate? Just wondering because I'll just leave now. do you believe or not believe? I believe that there is not a god in the traditional sense, but I also believe to completely deny any possibility of a higher power would be ignorant due to how little we know in the grand scheme of things. I'm not saying there's a god that created us for one second, I'm just saying for how completely ignorant we are, it would be arrogance to claim to know anything within a shadow of a doubt.
Prepare to be flamed for itelligent response.
By EtienneLoire 2010-09-02 21:28:04
Phoenix.Darki said: It's funny how the argument of god exists morphs every time to it's advantage to 'prove' of his existence, and each time it gets turned down miserably.
I see men defending god so fiercely, it truly makes me believe it's a creation of mankind.
When I was 14 I almost died. but luckily I was fine, paramedics got there. It is the story of what happened before they got there.
But no I think I should keep my mouth shut about that.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-02 21:31:12
a year ago I almost died, yes, not sharing how, and today I still hate to hear 'god saved you that day' come out of my mothers mouth.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-02 21:31:14
Saiii said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Ragnarok.Twinbladehaseo said: Shiva.Flionheart said: So this thread has come down to picking on small errors instead of interesting debate? Just wondering because I'll just leave now. do you believe or not believe? I believe that there is not a god in the traditional sense, but I also believe to completely deny any possibility of a higher power would be ignorant due to how little we know in the grand scheme of things. I'm not saying there's a god that created us for one second, I'm just saying for how completely ignorant we are, it would be arrogance to claim to know anything within a shadow of a doubt.
Prepare to be flamed for itelligent response.
I'm sure I'll get lots of "Your opinion wrong and here is why" soon enough.
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By Ragnarok.Twinbladehaseo 2010-09-02 21:32:29
Saiii said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Ragnarok.Twinbladehaseo said: Shiva.Flionheart said: So this thread has come down to picking on small errors instead of interesting debate? Just wondering because I'll just leave now. do you believe or not believe? I believe that there is not a god in the traditional sense, but I also believe to completely deny any possibility of a higher power would be ignorant due to how little we know in the grand scheme of things. I'm not saying there's a god that created us for one second, I'm just saying for how completely ignorant we are, it would be arrogance to claim to know anything within a shadow of a doubt.
Prepare to be flamed for itelligent response.
I don't think he should be flame for that, that's what he believes.
By EtienneLoire 2010-09-02 21:32:37
Shiva.Flionheart said: Ragnarok.Twinbladehaseo said: Shiva.Flionheart said: So this thread has come down to picking on small errors instead of interesting debate?
Just wondering because I'll just leave now.
do you believe or not believe?
I believe that there is not a god in the traditional sense, but I also believe to completely deny any possibility of a higher power would be ignorant due to how little we know in the grand scheme of things.
I'm not saying there's a god that created us for one second, I'm just saying for how completely ignorant we are, it would be arrogance to claim to know anything within a shadow of a doubt.
So you proved my point, I say the same thing but i hide between the fences staying neutral. You yourself just gave such a arrogant statement. If humans are arrogant for wanting to know the truth, that includes you too. I always say there is something out there, wait ... I "think" there is something out there.
So I am arrogant for saying such a thing?
The human race are not the only beings in the universe, I say this. Does this make me arrogant also, because it is a known fact. there are plenty of galaxies unless it is reflections of only our galaxy when it was in it's building stage, in some infinite time loop...
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By Ragnarok.Twinbladehaseo 2010-09-02 21:33:29
Phoenix.Darki said: a year ago I almost died, yes, not sharing how, and today I still hate to hear 'god saved you that day' come out of my mothers mouth.
or Grandmother, lol
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-02 21:33:47
EtienneLoire said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Ragnarok.Twinbladehaseo said: Shiva.Flionheart said: So this thread has come down to picking on small errors instead of interesting debate?
Just wondering because I'll just leave now.
do you believe or not believe?
I believe that there is not a god in the traditional sense, but I also believe to completely deny any possibility of a higher power would be ignorant due to how little we know in the grand scheme of things.
I'm not saying there's a god that created us for one second, I'm just saying for how completely ignorant we are, it would be arrogance to claim to know anything within a shadow of a doubt.
So you proved my point, I say the same thing but i hide between the fences staying neutral. You yourself just gave such a arrogant statement. If humans are arrogant for wanting to know the truth, that includes you too. I always say there is something out there, wait ... I "think" there is something out there.
So I am arrogant for saying such a thing?
The human race are not the only beings in the universe, I say this. Does this make me arrogant also, because it is a known fact. there are plenty of galaxies unless it is reflections of only our galaxy when it was in it's building stage, in some infinite time loop...
No. You say things like "I can remember from when I was 1, so this proves that we get reincarnated"
My post was complete subjective opinion.
By EtienneLoire 2010-09-02 21:34:03
Phoenix.Darki said: a year ago I almost died, yes, not sharing how, and today I still hate to hear 'god saved you that day' come out of my mothers mouth.
That is not it but thanks lol...
I do not feel like getting into it, but I know what I saw ;/. The feeling of knowing you are going to die could have died and have been saved etc.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-02 21:35:19
Ragnarok.Twinbladehaseo said: Phoenix.Darki said: a year ago I almost died, yes, not sharing how, and today I still hate to hear 'god saved you that day' come out of my mothers mouth.
or Grandmother, lol
What irks me is the fact that they don't give any credit to the neighbors who helped me.
By EtienneLoire 2010-09-02 21:35:28
If no one has not been close to dying before, of have died they are the ones who know the answers btw...
what it feels like what goes through your mind etc, and what you see.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-02 21:36:47
I almost died and science saved my ***.
By EtienneLoire 2010-09-02 21:36:56
Shiva.Flionheart said: EtienneLoire said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Ragnarok.Twinbladehaseo said: Shiva.Flionheart said: So this thread has come down to picking on small errors instead of interesting debate?
Just wondering because I'll just leave now.
do you believe or not believe?
I believe that there is not a god in the traditional sense, but I also believe to completely deny any possibility of a higher power would be ignorant due to how little we know in the grand scheme of things.
I'm not saying there's a god that created us for one second, I'm just saying for how completely ignorant we are, it would be arrogance to claim to know anything within a shadow of a doubt.
So you proved my point, I say the same thing but i hide between the fences staying neutral. You yourself just gave such a arrogant statement. If humans are arrogant for wanting to know the truth, that includes you too. I always say there is something out there, wait ... I "think" there is something out there.
So I am arrogant for saying such a thing?
The human race are not the only beings in the universe, I say this. Does this make me arrogant also, because it is a known fact. there are plenty of galaxies unless it is reflections of only our galaxy when it was in it's building stage, in some infinite time loop...
No. You say things like "I can remember from when I was 1, so this proves that we get reincarnated"
My post was complete subjective opinion.
I can remember up to 3 months old to be exact.
There was some famous Russian inventor who remembered his memories from inside the womb, feel stupid yet?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-02 21:37:29
EtienneLoire said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Ragnarok.Twinbladehaseo said: Shiva.Flionheart said: So this thread has come down to picking on small errors instead of interesting debate?
Just wondering because I'll just leave now.
do you believe or not believe?
I believe that there is not a god in the traditional sense, but I also believe to completely deny any possibility of a higher power would be ignorant due to how little we know in the grand scheme of things.
I'm not saying there's a god that created us for one second, I'm just saying for how completely ignorant we are, it would be arrogance to claim to know anything within a shadow of a doubt.
So you proved my point, I say the same thing but i hide between the fences staying neutral. You yourself just gave such a arrogant statement. If humans are arrogant for wanting to know the truth, that includes you too. I always say there is something out there, wait ... I "think" there is something out there.
So I am arrogant for saying such a thing?
The human race are not the only beings in the universe, I say this. Does this make me arrogant also, because it is a known fact. there are plenty of galaxies unless it is reflections of only our galaxy when it was in it's building stage, in some infinite time loop...
I'd also like to point out how you're putting words into the post that wasn't there. I at no point said the human race was arrogant for wanting to know more, I said the human race is arrogant for thinking they know anything within a shadow of a doubt.
Reading comprehension stan.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-02 21:37:44
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: I almost died and science saved my ***.
Not really, just saying.
If I get sick or someone gets sick, I go to a hospital. Not a church.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-02 21:38:07
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: I almost died and science saved my ***.
Not really, just saying.
If I get sick or someone gets sick, I go to a hospital. Not a church.
Yeah me too since god can't cure or save ***.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-02 21:38:20
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: I almost died and science saved my ***.
Not really, just saying.
If I get sick or someone gets sick, I go to a hospital. Not a church.
Yeah me too since god can't cure or save ***.
Yeah lol, I wonder why people can't understand that.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-02 21:38:21
EtienneLoire said: Shiva.Flionheart said: EtienneLoire said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Ragnarok.Twinbladehaseo said: Shiva.Flionheart said: So this thread has come down to picking on small errors instead of interesting debate?
Just wondering because I'll just leave now.
do you believe or not believe?
I believe that there is not a god in the traditional sense, but I also believe to completely deny any possibility of a higher power would be ignorant due to how little we know in the grand scheme of things.
I'm not saying there's a god that created us for one second, I'm just saying for how completely ignorant we are, it would be arrogance to claim to know anything within a shadow of a doubt.
So you proved my point, I say the same thing but i hide between the fences staying neutral. You yourself just gave such a arrogant statement. If humans are arrogant for wanting to know the truth, that includes you too. I always say there is something out there, wait ... I "think" there is something out there.
So I am arrogant for saying such a thing?
The human race are not the only beings in the universe, I say this. Does this make me arrogant also, because it is a known fact. there are plenty of galaxies unless it is reflections of only our galaxy when it was in it's building stage, in some infinite time loop...
No. You say things like "I can remember from when I was 1, so this proves that we get reincarnated"
My post was complete subjective opinion.
I can remember up to 3 months old to be exact.
There was some famous Russian inventor who remembered his memories from inside the womb, feel stupid yet?
Because being Russian, and an inventor suddenly makes anything you say completely true when there is no proof to back it up.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-02 21:38:28
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: I almost died and science saved my ***.
Not really, just saying.
If I get sick or someone gets sick, I go to a hospital. Not a church.
Yeah me too since god can't cure or save ***.
Yeah lol, I wonder why people can't understand that.
Beats me...
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-02 21:39:38
Lakshmi.Mabrook said: What I don't get more than the religion vs. science argument is wtf is Stan still posting under that profile?
Because he's proud of being a cheese eating surrender monkey.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2010-09-02 21:40:20
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said: I almost died and science saved my ***.
Not really, just saying.
If I get sick or someone gets sick, I go to a hospital. Not a church.
Yeah me too since god can't cure or save ***.
Yeah lol, I wonder why people can't understand that.
Beats me...
Did Etie just bring up that story about the Russian and his memories.
When it has been scientifically proven you can't remember anything vividly except short bursts of images before the age of 4? And anything at all before the age of 1?
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-02 21:40:24
EtienneLoire said: If no one has not been close to dying before, of have died they are the ones who know the answers btw...
what it feels like what goes through your mind etc, and what you see. i was dead for a couple, and i still dont know the answers. nope.
not trollin either
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