Depth of Field and Ambient Occulsion, ammm...pretty sure depth of field relates to "how far" you can see in the distance but what is Ambient occulsion?
The way ambient light is handled wrt to the way light is usually occluded (blocked) from edgeds on 3d mesh. Its like a negative image almost, and thats overlaid with diffuse, to give a much more 3D effect. Sharper edges, better AA
Translation pls...lost me there...talk to me like the total computer illeterate person i am..lol
Ah, light shines on you (diffuse) however you also reflect light (ambient), well if you just cut on diffuse and ambient the way a computer calculates it, you would look like an angel, radiating light. So the occlusion attempts to overly the shadows of ambient light (they occur at flat and concave surfaces) with the overly lit up portions from diffuse, so the object doesn't shine. its shadowed in the appropriate areas to give a more realistic 3D effect
oh hey is there any pics out there that detail the starting cities and areas right outside. I wanna look at them before picking and my google search came up with nothing great.
Please and thanks~
If I remember tonight, I could take some pics of Ul'dah. The surrounding area is desert-like if that helps you decide at all :P
Once I get on I can take some pics of Limsa
You're kinda screwed on Gridania tho <_< hardly any of us go to Grid.
Pics would be lovely~
Ul'dah sounds fun but dunno if the desert would be. Limsa seems like my cup of tea. and why is grid so lonely? xD
Because it's a city off by itself.. The walk from Ul'dah to Grid is a long one.. From Ul'dah to the ferry is like a 20-30 min walk at most, and the ferry goes straight into Limsa.
I dun like long walks ^^; so is Ul'dah like the center between the two?
oh hey is there any pics out there that detail the starting cities and areas right outside. I wanna look at them before picking and my google search came up with nothing great.
Please and thanks~
If I remember tonight, I could take some pics of Ul'dah. The surrounding area is desert-like if that helps you decide at all :P
Once I get on I can take some pics of Limsa
You're kinda screwed on Gridania tho <_< hardly any of us go to Grid.
Pics would be lovely~
Ul'dah sounds fun but dunno if the desert would be. Limsa seems like my cup of tea. and why is grid so lonely? xD
Because it's a city off by itself.. The walk from Ul'dah to Grid is a long one.. From Ul'dah to the ferry is like a 20-30 min walk at most, and the ferry goes straight into Limsa.
I dun like long walks ^^; so is Ul'dah like the center between the two?
I wouldn't say in the center, but it is between the two.
Im in Grid, but my comp sucks so you dont want screens from me, but i'll try
Sorry, absolutely off-topic, but do you play Codemaster's GRID with a wheel, Yohkai? It's such a beautiful game, but I find it almost unplayable because I can never calibrate it correctly for a controller setup. :/
Im in Grid, but my comp sucks so you dont want screens from me, but i'll try
Sorry, absolutely off-topic, but do you play Codemaster's GRID with a wheel, Yohkai? It's such a beautiful game, but I find it almost unplayable because I can never calibrate it correctly for a controller setup. :/
Im in Grid, but my comp sucks so you dont want screens from me, but i'll try
Sorry, absolutely off-topic, but do you play Codemaster's GRID with a wheel, Yohkai? It's such a beautiful game, but I find it almost unplayable because I can never calibrate it correctly for a controller setup. :/
oh hey is there any pics out there that detail the starting cities and areas right outside. I wanna look at them before picking and my google search came up with nothing great.
Please and thanks~
If I remember tonight, I could take some pics of Ul'dah. The surrounding area is desert-like if that helps you decide at all :P
Once I get on I can take some pics of Limsa
You're kinda screwed on Gridania tho <_< hardly any of us go to Grid.
Pics would be lovely~
Ul'dah sounds fun but dunno if the desert would be. Limsa seems like my cup of tea. and why is grid so lonely? xD
Ul'dah has hookers in it xD.
Seriously, it's a nice looking city. I haven't visited the others yet to check them out though.
oh hey is there any pics out there that detail the starting cities and areas right outside. I wanna look at them before picking and my google search came up with nothing great.
Please and thanks~
If I remember tonight, I could take some pics of Ul'dah. The surrounding area is desert-like if that helps you decide at all :P
Once I get on I can take some pics of Limsa
You're kinda screwed on Gridania tho <_< hardly any of us go to Grid.
Pics would be lovely~
Ul'dah sounds fun but dunno if the desert would be. Limsa seems like my cup of tea. and why is grid so lonely? xD
Ul'dah has hookers in it xD.
Seriously, it's a nice looking city. I haven't visited the others yet to check them out though.
oh hey is there any pics out there that detail the starting cities and areas right outside. I wanna look at them before picking and my google search came up with nothing great. Please and thanks~
If I remember tonight, I could take some pics of Ul'dah. The surrounding area is desert-like if that helps you decide at all :P
Once I get on I can take some pics of Limsa You're kinda screwed on Gridania tho <_< hardly any of us go to Grid.
Pics would be lovely~ Ul'dah sounds fun but dunno if the desert would be. Limsa seems like my cup of tea. and why is grid so lonely? xD
Ul'dah has hookers in it xD. Seriously, it's a nice looking city. I haven't visited the others yet to check them out though.
Depth of Field and Ambient Occulsion, ammm...pretty sure depth of field relates to "how far" you can see in the distance but what is Ambient occulsion?
The way ambient light is handled wrt to the way light is usually occluded (blocked) from edgeds on 3d mesh. Its like a negative image almost, and thats overlaid with diffuse, to give a much more 3D effect. Sharper edges, better AA
Translation pls...lost me there...talk to me like the total computer illeterate person i am..lol
Ah, light shines on you (diffuse) however you also reflect light (ambient), well if you just cut on diffuse and ambient the way a computer calculates it, you would look like an angel, radiating light. So the occlusion attempts to overly the shadows of ambient light (they occur at flat and concave surfaces) with the overly lit up portions from diffuse, so the object doesn't shine. its shadowed in the appropriate areas to give a more realistic 3D effect
thanks..Wish more people could break down some of the terminology that well, I know just enough about computers to make me dangerous but not enought to be useful.
Depth of Field and Ambient Occulsion, ammm...pretty sure depth of field relates to "how far" you can see in the distance but what is Ambient occulsion?
The way ambient light is handled wrt to the way light is usually occluded (blocked) from edgeds on 3d mesh. Its like a negative image almost, and thats overlaid with diffuse, to give a much more 3D effect. Sharper edges, better AA
Translation pls...lost me there...talk to me like the total computer illeterate person i am..lol
Ah, light shines on you (diffuse) however you also reflect light (ambient), well if you just cut on diffuse and ambient the way a computer calculates it, you would look like an angel, radiating light. So the occlusion attempts to overly the shadows of ambient light (they occur at flat and concave surfaces) with the overly lit up portions from diffuse, so the object doesn't shine. its shadowed in the appropriate areas to give a more realistic 3D effect
thanks..Wish more people could break down some of the terminology that well, I know just enough about computers to make me dangerous but not enought to be useful.
i use to tutor back in me college days. Glad that was good enough to get the point across. Light, Fire and quaternions are *** to 3D people.
Yokhai gave a fairly good explanation, but to further elaborate:
Ambient Occlusion:
Doing proper light/shadow in 3D is very hard. In real life, it's done by infinitely small and infinitely many photons bouncing around and reflecting, shining, etc. No computer is powerful enough to perfectly simulate it.
So game programmers have a few ways to "fudge" it. The first thing is by breaking light down into two types: diffuse and reflected. Diffuse or ambient is light that kinda "comes from everywhere," like an approximation of how the sun lights up the day. Reflected or specular is light that comes from a particular point source, like a spotlight.
The trouble with ambient light is that it doesn't really exist in nature. It's an approximation. The sun lights up the day not by magical "ambient" light but rather by light that's been reflected off so many things that it's lost its sense of direction. But it's still capable of casting shadows because when you really get down to it, it's still directional light. So how do you get good shadows with the "ambient" light approximation in computers?
Ambient occlusion is an extra graphical pass that attempts to block diffuse/ambient light in accordance with a model's actual physical extents, by nature of how far objects are from one another. The dragon on the left has only a basic shading pass, but the ambient light tends to "bleed" around and give the dragon a glowing feel. The dragon on the right has ambient occlusion turned on, where the dragon's dimensions actually occlude (block) the light, resulting in something that approximates reality. (But is still technically wrong.)
Ambient occlusion results in passably realistic and soft lighting effects, although it's only an approximation of real life. (Ex: the smooth light/shadow on Jaerik's face from beta here.) However, it's an intensive operation. If you don't have a graphics card that can do it natively, it will gobble up most of your CPU resources.
Depth of Field
The human eye can only focus on one distance plane at a time. When you're looking at something up close, stuff behind it goes out of focus, and vice versa. Photographers work with it all the time.
It's also a rule of how optics work in an atmosphere. Mountains far in the distance look fuzzy, and their colors tend to wash out and bleed together, because of the dulling effect of all that air between you and them.
The top picture has no depth of field. All objects at all distances are in focus. This looks very "sharp" but is actually somewhat unrealistic.
The bottom has a very strong depth of field. Objects go out of focus as they recede from the camera almost immediately.
Well seeing as we're getting a load of threads pop up on different things popping into the game, I thought it would be easier if I made a general thread.
Firstly, I'd like to say the following:
If you want to come into this thread just to start shit with people who are going to buy XIV, please refrain from doing so. I'm not making you do this, but nearly every XIV thread so far has gone to the flame-core, and I'd rather keep at least one topic about the game that will be civil. If you have a personal opinion on the game, then feel free to vent it, but please do it in a positive way instead of flame-baiting. Thanks.
I thought I'd start off with some general information on the different aspects of the game. All this information has been gathered from The XIV website or interviews.
Here we go!
Story The Age of Adventure Men are wont to suffer
And forget wherein they’ve sinned
Ne’er hearkening back on tragedies past
Lest the Twelve might humble them
— Unknown
Countless moons have waxed and waned since wandering tribes from across Hydaelyn first arrived in Eorzea and settled its untamed lands. The benevolent deities who ruled the empty continent and its surrounding islands were impressed with the resilience of these primitive men and women, and in an act of mercy each saw fit to ensure their welfare.
These gods and goddesses soon came to be known as the Twelve, and the villages thrived in their light until the land was bespeckled with several independent city-states. Though, where man walks, strife follows, and for generations, these tiny nations carved out a history of blood and betrayal built upon broken oaths and the sun-bleached bones of the fallen.
However, the fate of the land would soon change. Not fifteen years past, a new threat appeared without warning from the east. Metal-clad warriors brandishing weapons that spewed streams of fire, fleets of behemoth airships belching oily smoke that would block out the sun for days at a time... A resistance was amassed, but to little avail, and it was not long before Ala Mhigo, once considered the most powerful of the remaining six Eorzean city-states, had fallen to the mighty Garlean Empire.
As the empire’s dreadnaughts continued their march of terror across the blood-soaked fields of the north, the remaining nations put aside their differences and clandestinely joined hands to form a loose alliance to ensure they not meet the same fate, should the invaders turn their eyes southward.
Fortunately, the invasion never came, and just as quickly as it had arrived, the empire was gone again. However, echoes of their grim message rang clear in the hearts of Eorzea’s people—its effect on them, profound and irreversible. The realm would never be the same.
And it was thus that Eorzea slipped into the “Age of Calm,” during which an uneasy peace prevailed.
To prepare for the coming storm, the first task of the newly-formed alliance was to fortify their defenses. In the previous era, few city-states maintained organized militaries, opting instead to hire the services of mercenaries and hedge knights to champion their causes. However, after the fall of Ala Mhigo, city guard units were restructured into legitimate standing armies which could be quickly called upon and mobilized if the need arose.
Unfortunately, this left a majority of the realm’s hireswords with nowhere to pledge their fealty, and with their livelihood ripped out from under them, many of these men and women resorted to acts of villainy to survive. For fear of the situation worsening and the land falling into chaos, several respected leaders from around Eorzea gathered together and formed a network of guilds to provide these lost souls with the opportunity to redeem themselves by aiding others.
Through the foresight and resolve of these leaders a new industry known as “adventuring” emerged, its advent helping usher in the current era—an era of hope in a time when shadows of uncertainty loom ever closer.
A Realm Divided
It is nigh on ten years since the fearsome beings known as the primals first appeared in these lands. Ten years since they were summoned forth by the destructive ambition of the beast tribes. Ten years, and still those tribes, drunk on the power granted them by the primals, continue to wreak havoc upon the free peoples of Eorzea.
To the northeast, the Garlean Empire stirs, casting an ominous shadow across the realm. Seeking dominion over the continent of Aldenard, the Garleans set out on a campaign of conquest, smiting all opposition with their superior technology and overwhelming military might. In a relentless drive to the south and west, they lay ruin to the once flourishing city-state of Ala Mhigo.
It is in the midst of this embattled Eorzea that a mysterious power surfaces. Known simply as the Echo, it is said cause the souls of those touched by it to resonate with others. And of this is born the ability to relive their past experiences—to see and feel them as though they were one’s own.
Can these seeds of the past somehow serve to sow hope for the future?
What is the origin of this eldritch power?
Is it a deific gift of righteousness? Or the deception of some sinister sorcery?
To what end has it been given?
The search for the answers to such questions falls to you. So go forth. Seek out and join your brethren. And together claim your place among legends in the annals of time.
— Diversity in Numbers —
Boasting the largest population in Eorzea, the Hyur came from neighboring continents and islands in three great migratory waves. With them they brought a sophisticated technology and complex ethos tempered by the breadth of the outside world. They rapidly became a driving force behind cultural progress, and are now widely attributed with spearheading advances in Eorzean civilization.
One of the Hyur’s strengths is the staggering variety of languages and social institutions they exhibit. This is said to account for their firm conviction in individual freedoms, though it also results in a relative lack of solidarity and group cohesion.
Two distinct groups now exist among the Hyur-Highlanders, denizens of mountainous areas, and Midlanders, who reside in lower elevations.
Midlander
The Midlander clan comprises over half of the total population of Eorzea’s Hyur. They have established themselves throughout every city in the realm and lead lives as diverse as their heritage. Trained in letters from infancy, the Midlanders are generally more educated than many of the other races and clans.
Highlander
The Highlanders derive their name from a long tradition of inhabiting Eorzea’s mountainous regions. Compared to their Midland brethren, the Highlanders are noticeably larger in build. These days, it is rare to see Highlanders save for those who fled Ala Mhigo after its fall, and now work in the other city-states as mercenaries and sellswords.
— A Tribe of One —
During the Age of Endless Frost, as the seas turned to ice and passage over them became possible, Eorzea saw an influx of foreign fauna to her shores. This in turn brought the hunting tribes which subsisted upon them, the modern descendants of whom are today known as the Miqo’te.
Since then, the Miqo’te have diverged into two physically distinguishable groups — the diurnal Seekers of the Sun and the nocturnal Keepers of the Moon. Both groups share a superb olfactory sense and powerful leg musculature, results of a long evolution geared towards hunting and predation.
Comparatively few in number, they maintain an insular group mentality, tending to avoid contact with the other races. Many individuals lead isolated lifestyles, even when residing in the more populous cities.
Seekers of the Sun
The self-proclaimed Seekers of the Sun are the diurnal clan of the Miqo’te race. Their preference for the warm light of day pervades all aspects of their culture, as is apparent in their devout reverence for Azeyma the Warden, goddess of the sun. They are perhaps known best for their striking eyes — the result of their vertically aligned pupils and faintly colored irises.
Keepers of the Moon
The nocturnal among the Miqo’te have dubbed themselves the Keepers of the Moon. Shying from the garish light of day, they revel in the shroud of night, and offer their piety to Menphina the Lover, goddess of the moon. The custom of applying war paint to the face is still regularly practiced by the Keepers of the Moon, enhancing their already distinctive appearance.
— More Clever by Half —
The Lalafell were originally a group of agriculturalists inhabiting the fertile islands of the south seas. With the introduction of transmarine commerce, they soon found their way to Eorzea via trade routes. They are now one of the more populous races and are well established throughout the region, though they remain averse to cold climates.
The short, rotund builds of the Lalafell belie an incredible agility, and their seemingly feeble legs are capable of carrying them long distances over any terrain. Many among them are also known for possessing highly developed and cunning intellects.
The Lalafell place a great deal of significance on familial bonds, but are by no means unfriendly to outsiders. This is evidenced by the fact that they continue to share prosperous relations with all of the other races of Eorzea.
Plainsfolk
The flat landscapes of the Plainsfolk’s home islands are dotted with the clan’s traditional thatched huts, beneath which lie intricate networks of underground passageways. Their distinct hair coloration — a myriad of earthy and grassy tones — mimics their native environment, and their long, pointy ears are said to be able to detect the faintest scampering of the prairie’s various fauna.
Dunesfolk
Perhaps the most distinctive aspect of Dunesfolk culture is its traditional dwellings — structures affixed to the backs of large beasts of burden. The luminous eyes of the Dunesfolk are the result of a glossy, protective layer which covers the pupil, an evolutionary response to the glaring sunlight of their home region. Many individuals wear a small gemstone on their forehead, representing their zodiacal sign.
— Noble and Refined —
The Elezen are a traditionally nomadic people who in former times claimed sole dominion over Eorzea, their presence predating that of the other races. Believing this prominence to be ordained by the gods, they came to develop an esteemed sense of honor and pride.
Their characteristically tall, slim physiques and elongated limbs are part of a successful adaptation to the land’s various environments. Indeed, it is said that their highly sensitive ears can discern the squeak of a field mouse at a distance of up to several malms.
The Elezen perceived the immigration of the Hyur as tantamount to invasion, and as a result the two share a past plagued by warfare. At present, however, they can be seen coexisting peacefully, the exception being the reclusive Duskwight Elezen.
Wildwood Elezen
For hundreds of years the Wildwood Elezen have lived in the safety of Eorzea’s lush forests. They possess an incredibly keen sense of sight — a contributing factor in their unparalleled expertise as archers. With the formation of the realm’s governments, many Wildwood ventured forth from the forests, drawn either to the exhilarating cosmopolitanism of the urban centers or the simple nomadism of the plains.
The Duskwight Elezen
The Duskwight Elezen have spent centuries in the peace and seclusion of Eorzea’s caves and caverns. They have developed an acute sense of hearing, capable of detecting the faintest of sounds. This natural gift, and the uncanny awareness it grants, has proven advantageous in the field of hand-to-hand combat. Many of the reclusive Duskwight resort to robbery and pillaging to survive, earning them the scorn of their woodland relatives.
— Size Matters —
The Roegadyn are a maritime people whose largest concentrations are found in the northern seas, by way of which they came to Eorzea.
They possess enormous, muscular builds and are known for the cultural emphasis they place on competition and unflinching courage, though tender, introspective individuals can also be found. Roegadyn in and around the Limsa Lominsa area are typically seamen putting in at port, but many have also settled permanently, becoming mercenaries, bodyguards, or even pirates by trade. Far away, deep in the mountains of Ul’dah, live mountain clans of reclusive Roegadyn known as the Hellsguard, said to have mastered the magical arts.
Sea Wolves
The Sea Wolves originally hail from the islands of the far north seas, where they still subsist as fishermen and women. Long ago, no vessel or coastal village was safe from their maritime brand of brutality. Now, it is not uncommon to see them employed as sailors or naval mercenaries on all manner of vessels.
Hellsguard
The Hellsguard are a clan of Roegadyn with body and mind tempered by the unforgiving heat of the volcanic regions they inhabit. Believing these mountains of flame to be gates to the underworld, their line has for centuries stood vigil over them to prevent the passage of souls back to the realm of the living. Their sheer girth and steely demeanor open to the Hellsguard a wide range of paths, from the martial to the monastic.