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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-08-20 14:35:44
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Fenrir.Tool said:

Which is exactly why it worries me that XIV has such an earlier than expected release date.

It'll have bugs no doubt, but SE tested the water with XI so they'll have a benchmark set for in game balance and other obvious patches. Ie: We won't be able to MPK like we could in XI on release. They learnt from that.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-20 14:36:16
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Fenrir.Tool said:
Which is exactly why it worries me that XIV has such an earlier than expected release date.
I'm completely terrified.

At least blizzard had the sense to go by the "it's done when it's done" policy. Remember when SC2 was originally expected for release around November of last year? I have no doubt those extra 8 months contributed to the quality of the game.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-08-20 14:39:54
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Fenrir.Tool said:
At least blizzard had the sense to go by the "it's done when it's done" policy. Remember when SC2 was originally expected for release around November of last year? I have no doubt those extra 8 months contributed to the quality of the game.
If I had to guess, September 30th is the last day of 3rd quarter. It's possible they have internal business pressure to deliver then, so the parent company can write down FF14 pre-sales and Day 1 purchases as Q3 income.

If you look at game industry release dates, a lot of them come suspiciously right before the end of a fiscal quarter. (Or more commonly, right before Christmas.)
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By Siren.Temeraire 2010-08-20 14:41:33
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Ifrit.Darkanaseur said:
Fenrir.Tool said:
Which is exactly why it worries me that XIV has such an earlier than expected release date.
It'll have bugs no doubt, but SE tested the water with XI so they'll have a benchmark set for in game balance and other obvious patches. Ie: We won't be able to MPK like we could in XI on release. They learnt from that.

I think SE was hit hard by cultural differences in FF XI. I don't think they really expected the "every man for himself" attitude that so many NA players have. Granted, a number of Japanese players are just as bad...
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-20 14:43:28
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Fenrir.Tool said:
At least blizzard had the sense to go by the "it's done when it's done" policy. Remember when SC2 was originally expected for release around November of last year? I have no doubt those extra 8 months contributed to the quality of the game.
If I had to guess, September 30th is the last day of 3rd quarter. It's possible they have internal business pressure to deliver then, so the parent company can write down FF14 pre-sales and Day 1 purchases as Q3 income.

If you look at game industry release dates, a lot of them come suspiciously right before the end of a fiscal quarter. (Or more commonly, right before Christmas.)

I was definitely hoping for the latter. A Christmas holiday release would seem more ideal as a balance of quarterly income measurements, target audience sales, and time necessary for making quality/stable software.

But alas, I take a gamble with SE anyways and they haven't let me down too bad... Except for this piece of garbage.

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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-08-20 14:45:01
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Well it was their first MMO and they were quite pioneering with it in a lot of aspects. A revamped auto-trans would be very welcome. Xmas release is a good move even with pending bugs/glitches, they can stamp them out later while making the xmas rush.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-08-20 14:46:30
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Fenrir.Tool said:
and time necessary for making quality/stable software.

You'd be surprised really, an extended deadline of a month or so isn't all that long for development teams.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-08-20 14:48:45
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Siren.Temeraire said:
I think SE was hit hard by cultural differences in FF XI.
It was kind of sad, because they were the exact same cultural problems that other games encountered when trying to integrate. Ultima Online's JP release in particular.

It's very hard to reconcile the JP cultural notion of "allegiance to your group, promote group achievement over self" and the NA cultural notion of "the rest of my group are the supporting characters to my awesomeness."
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By Bismarck.Danz 2010-08-20 14:52:44
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Bismarck.Danz said:
fix some game mechanics that have been needed fixing since day 1. spell locks... annoying as hell

loseing TP becuse your "too far"

input overload. when you put in many cammands they seem to congest causeing alot of input to just be ingored. and requireing to hit the macro agan. (example) trying to weaponskill right after a range attack. or range attack right after a weaponskill. also the not being able to use any abilitys after useing an items will fallow under this

invisable wall spots in the game... you know the ones im talking about. particulerly in xarcabard... makes dyna a pain in the but some times becuse one tiny 2 inch cliff your mage pulls hate and the mob is too far for the tank to voke it or get to it in a timely manor.

make range weaponskills work for the same distance you can range attack at!

also the big one that bothers my main job in particuler. the not getting the right drain from my drain samba wile footworks is up. only getting drains for the H2H delay and not the footwork delay

work on these fixes. and ill be more then happy

also another one i thought of wile doing my trials for my occ. atk. dagger.

adjust the respawn time of mobs in dungons from 15 min to 5
 
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By Midgardsormr.Zenshiro 2010-08-20 15:20:39
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Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
Midgardsormr.Zenshiro said:
SE said in a final fantasy xiv Interview that DEC is not that last FFXI update they have more ideas but it wont be big update like go and back a box. It going to go on being ADDONS that all ffxi going to get now.
I don't know... if all we are leveling 99 for is to do Abyssea type events seems rather pointless. I can see another expansion with another continent and brand new areas.

expansion as you go buy it at gamestop? and such they said FFXI wont be getting anymore expansion only addon most likey they let you guys in the far east and mithra homeland later who knows ;)
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By Fenrir.Fearforever 2010-08-20 15:24:26
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Make HQ item sets storable

How annoying is it making a mule to store low-lvl HQ items because the NPC wont take them >.>

Increase Mog-safe, Mog-locker size by 10
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-08-20 15:27:29
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Ifrit.Zibo said:
mithra homeland

DO WANT
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-20 15:28:56
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Oh here's perhaps the greatest and most important update idea of all:

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By Bismarck.Danz 2010-08-20 15:52:21
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Fenrir.Tool said:
Oh here's perhaps the greatest and most important update idea of all:


i assome this means you want them to do with pizza like they did with curry?

would be nice to see that! :D
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-08-20 16:09:39
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- Remove the 50% penalty on recast and casting time of Dark magic spells while casting with hasso or seigan on. (can leave the penalty for Ninjutsu etc for obvious reasons.)

- Remove the decaying effect on DRK absorb attribute spells.

- Remove or at least increase the cap on merit categories.

- allow us to change our toau rings. (Yes, I'm stuck with a ring I don't really want at this point...)

- Allow skill ups in campaign! (why not? It would be nice... )
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By Sylph.Washburn 2010-08-20 17:50:35
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Fenrir.Tool said:
Oh here's perhaps the greatest and most important update idea of all:
Pizza slice shaped pepperoni on a pizza slice?
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By Sylph.Fuquon 2010-08-20 19:06:27
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-Raising Besieged to level 10 would be awesome. SE could also put in another wave...have u ever looked at the besieged map? There is symbol over The Ruins Of Alzadaal just like over the other places that can take the candy...it would be fun attacking chariots/gears in Al Zahbi. Maybe have a dvergr-type boss?

-Allow automatons to put evoliths inside their big empty heads!

-I remember a while back SE was going to put in some type of chocobo hunt in an update abut 2 years ago.(Does anyone remember seeing the white chocobo running through Pashhow Marshlans in an update note teaser back then?) Implement, plz!

-Open the Colosseum!
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By Midgardsormr.Renala 2010-08-20 19:17:11
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Ifrit.Darkanaseur said:
Ifrit.Zibo said:
mithra homeland

DO WANT


Only if they unlock male mithras to make, or at least add more male mithra NPC's ~.~;;;
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By Bismarck.Var 2010-08-20 20:18:29
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While unlikely, I think being able to simultaneously equip multiple linkshells would be interesting
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-08-20 20:25:43
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change the repop of the ??? to 5minutes instead of 15

and um do something about Jailer of Temperance... Running around and looking for that thing is annoying as heck.
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By Shiva.Bleaubont 2010-08-20 20:42:59
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you never got 3k in 5mins via campaign... the xp cap especially when released was 3k an HOUR.
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By Leviathan.Whizzkid 2010-08-20 20:45:00
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My firm belief is that SE are trying to lose more and more players from FFXI by the way it conducts itself but I'm made of sterner stuff I shall keep giving them my money...We'll see who the real loser is in all of this!

Don't expect any useful updates that do more than just massage the ego's of sub-geared players at such a late stage of the game.
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-08-20 20:46:42
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letting dead people pass or lot on items would be just dandy, but dont expect them to do it.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-20 20:54:31
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As much as these sound like lovely ideas...One phrase:

"PS2 limitations"
 
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