Somewhere Other Than Limsa Lominsa Finally...

Why on earth would you play an MORPG if not for [persistent] character development? Aside from social interaction, that is the only thing an MORPG brings to the table, it's seriously like saying you aren't playing Gears of War to chainsaw Bayonete a pale, bulbous humanoid thing into little Unreal Chunks.


Some of your other arguments are a little more valid, I never said FFXIV looked ready for release, I'd relish a delay announcement, trust me.

Pacing for Progression (Part of character development btw hurr durrrrrr) is ongoing, and one of the later issues they'll probably address, though knowing SE, they'll increase the required XP rather than lower it, and if you don't like Solo'ing, you don't like Solo'ing (Which I don't as well, what I love about FFXI is it's group based efforts). From what I hear, server stability is too erratic to form functional parties. If FFXIV is a solo-oriented (Not to be confused with having solo'ing as an option) I will be greatly disappoint, but the simple fact that the game-model so far is just a "next-gen" FFXI suggests this is not the case.

But you apparently missed the Context originally. Blazza and Rinako seemed to be suggesting "Content" wise they(Or a "friend of a friend) were becoming bored with it, and that's not unexpected in a Beta Test. Earlier I said, If the game systems aren't your cup of tea, they aren't your(collective "Other people) cup of tea, but when you pull the "Insufficient content" card when talking about Game-testing phase, you just look like a moron.

Yah, whenever I hear someone talk about "My sweet gaming laptop" I lulz a little inside. Laptops are for Porn, IM/Social Networking and /b/. Desktops are for Porn(If over 2hrs required) and Gaming.

Is FFXI really anything more than an IM with high Polygon count though? The Graphics card alone I have beats FFXI's recommended by half-again (50%).

XI would be an exception since it was from 2002. I am sure most laptops can handle that with little to no issues.

That's assuming you're still living in 2001.

Playing games on a normal laptop causes overheating. Playing games on a gaming laptop is doing the same thing as playing them on a desktop computer.

Edit: I consider myself a hardcore professional gamer.

I beat Crysis in the course of about 15 hours in one sitting, with 0 breaks, on high settings, and high performance mode, and it didn't even come close to 85 Celcius.

Except you sacrifice screen size, efficiency, play time, device life time for mobility. This is true of any laptop vs a similarly built PC.

yeah I was gonna get it on ps3 but obv the release date is forever from the pc one. D:<

@Tool Yeah, "gaming laptops" aren't ideal at all. 90% of the time I wish my laptop was a desktop on wheels; or floated. :D I have FFXI on it only for convenience... I use to play on desktop until it fried so I just put FF on my laptop. It's pretty awful. I finally got my laptop to cool the *** down. It got to the point if it sat on my lap for too long it was burning my pant legs it was getting so hot. It was ridiculous. I just never got a new desktop since I travel so much; and I obv need my FFXI fix. D:

Or you can stop thinking of a laptop as an oversized, glorified iPhone and start thinking of one as a smaller, more convenient desktop, that you can move around at will.

Sacrifice screen size? The gaming laptop that I was planning to get had a 17 inch screen (Standard for most Desktop monitors) and comes with one of these for an extra 100 dollars.

Unless your life necessitates constant mobility, I just don't see the return on investment, especially because laptops are such a pain in the *** to upgrade in any way, shape or form. It's like having a Next-gen Console a generation before release.

Successful Hijack is successful btw, Ajmal, Imtiaz and Tayyab would be proud.

This is, honestly, my only complaint. This laptop allows for swapping of graphics cards and Processors, and I think RAM too, but I can't upgrade the built-in monitor.

That said, as-is, my laptop, stock, can play anything I throw at it, and I don't foresee the need to upgrade it anytime soon.

@Zicdeh, I'm well aware it's a beta TEST, and not a free demo, but my point is that I've been testing since the start, submitting bug reports and lots of feedback. While a lot of the feedback that's been commonly agreed upon in the feedback threads seems to have been taken in, some of the simpler, but important parts seem to have been ignored. The biggest of these issues for me is the camera control.

People complained that the arrow keys for controlling the camera were good, but that when you're in a menu, the arrow keys are then used for that and you can't use them for camera, not even if you use the shift key. So rather than adding the option like in FFXI to simply press the shift key to move the camera with the arrow keys while in a menu, they removed camera control from the arrow keys altogether. That was the first thing people complained about in the next version test, and sooo many people backed it up, yet come the next test, still no camera on arrow keys. On top of that, the actual camera itself, ie: the available angles on it, that has been a common complaint, which hasn't been changed at all, until this test, where it got even worse with the way the lock-on system has changed.

None of this though, is why I'm bored of it, and I wasn't actually complaining about the game, merely trying to show how sexy I think those screenshots are.

Really, I think the biggest deciding factor for me will be the amount of time I can spare. Which, considering I'm studying full-time, working and playing FFXI, is *** all...

I didn't mean to Imply that YOU (Spicyryan) pulled the content card, I agree with most of your arguments, most are opinions on mechanics, but valid enough that I can respect your disdain for them. Blazza and (I think) Rinako were the ones who Said (And implied respectively) that Beta testers were halting their play because of Boredom due to lack of variety. You let animosity fill in the contextual blanks present from not reading the previous posts or interpreting the given data correctly.

I agree with the Guildleve ***too, but I doubt it's as big a deal as SE is trying to make out of it. It's simply a system foundation, it has some potential for endgame use. Sort of like Assaults and the like, but that's slippery slope talking about "What could be". SE has already acknowledge there will be things like NM and Large-scale battlefields that we've come to enjoy (Or absolutely hate) in FFXI. GuildLeve, being a new system designed to attract new (Mostly "Casual") Players, is just taking a lot of press-space now as they try to broaden their initial clientele.

Balancing Solo and Group efforts doesn't mean excluding one for the other. Is Abyssea pointless now with Fields of Valor? They can coexist, and the only way a game like FFXIV can be successful is if they do. I like working with groups, I don't like my entire game experience being dependent on it. There is a HUGE difference.

Character development is strictly defined as advancing (Developing) your character, be it through XP, Gear, storyline (Area access like CoP Sea) and even simple things like activating a Verdical conflux in Abyssea. Obtaining Gear is the very quintessence of End-game character development. If you are starting a new MMO, it's sufficient to say, you should have a desire to explore that in some way, shape or form. If the Atmosphere and mechanics don't make it enjoyable for you, that's your call, I doubt you're gonna pay 14$ for a shiny Social Network.

As for Content lacking period (Btw, I'm pretty sure the initial physical level cap will be Lv40 in FFXIV, not 50) for new releases, that is absolutely true. Even the Mighty WoW didn't have any endgame at launch. The first quarter-year or so of an MORPG's retail life is more or less the final phase of testing, where all of the little bugs that squirmed through the official Tests got through. FFXIV will not have endgame at launch, obviously, but this is completely different than Judging the game with access to one city and one region.

*Just a little addendum to the above*

What game has "enough" Content anyway? The last game I felt truly "Satisfied" with was Shadow of the Collossus, every other game since then has left me wanting more, single player or MOG. The difference is, MOG's usually have regular content updates, though lately DLC has been showing itself to be more and more popular, though hardly worth the outrageous price some companies[ACTIVISION]are charging. Seriously... 12 bucks for new maps? Go *** yourself CoD.

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Trust me when I say I don't care if I look like a Moron, because I know I'm not(Just totally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE). So suck on full caps ho!

Figures that the quote function works on the less robust post.

Those camera issues sound irritating as all hell, but I know enough about making games to say that "Simple Fix" and "Game Development" are always separated by a Wrought-iron fence made of Shark-shooting tigers. We all knew SE wasn't going to win any awards for player->Game interface options though...

The Camera Angle is probably one of those things I'd need to feel to have an idea of wtf you're talking about. I do know from many a game, that bad camera can ruin a perfect game quite readily.

i've been in since alpha. SE has really lowered the req for PC Spec's since then. I'm running the game very well with
an amd dual core running 2.2 gzh and a ATI 2400hd. 4gb of ram.

Fatigue system has been debunked, just an FYI.

So I can stop worrying that exp will come to a halt after an hour of gameplay?

Yup, that rumour has been completely debunked. See Here

I made that URL just so others can enjoy a giant pic of a busty mithra, but it was also appealing for those who fear the worse.

yea, there has been a lot of BS about it.

there is something in place but nobody can prove that
it's slowing exp. it just says your gaining surplus exp while
your still gaining all the exp in the log. have the problem is SE not coming out and telling us what have this crap is.
we just run into ***and are like WTF and se say everything so damn cryptic

Sounds a bit like XI's hate system all over again.

SE love keeping us in the dark about ***like this.