Hagun...

Stolen from another thread but would this:

Nuevo Coselete Rare Ex
[Body] All Races
DEF:49 HP+20 STR+5 DEX+5 VIT+5
LV 75 WAR PLD DRK SAM DRG

Acc. +10
Store Tp +4 Subtle Blow +4

make 5 hit safer without losing to much acc in tp phase. its like haub+askar had a inbred child.

I hate the way it looks but would be functional i guess.

played with this set in limbo with pizza+1, dunno about higher lv mobs tho yet
need goading/hauby
and some h.kote+1 to swap in a +7 acc ring or yilbegans DEX ring XD

This point of view normally gets me flamed normally, but I am going to try it any way.

I think everyone agrees SAMs WS need very little attack to cap against most things.
A Decent SAM gets 60-70% of their total damage from WS, and 5hits are pushing this even further

Increasing WS frequency is the main aim for a modern SAM (WS damage is comes due to the large number of WS) and TP phase damage can be more or less ignored.

Therefore, you can draw to conclusions:
1. /DRG is a lot better for GKT SAMs
2. Sushi (sole) is the best food for a GKT SAM

The reasoning behind /DRG is pretty clear; 5% haste, jumps and accuracy bonus will gain TP faster (in decent buff situations) than double attack. ‘Zerk can be ignored as it does very little for your WS and your TP damage doesn’t matter.

Sushi isn’t as clear cut and normally people want to argue with me about this, but as I have said TP gain is the primary aim of SAM, which is achieved via capped accuracy and high haste levels. Often on mobs where GKT should be used, you have to make a choice, high haste or high accuracy. But a decent sushi will give 60-70 accuracy (over 1.5 times of pizza) which should allow for both capped accuracy and full haste. If you use Sole you also get 5STR which is a nice little boost to WS damage.

Pizza on the other hand does virtually nothing for GKT WS; it gives less accuracy (meaning a more conservative TP build). You do get a minor boost to TP damage, but again as I said TP damage is almost negligible and certainly not worth increasing at the expense of a useful stat.

With sushi and /DRG you can get a hell of a lot in your TP gear before accuracy will be an issue

Grats! I have been thinking about that particular one as the other is too much like Soboro.

inb4, other one can 5hit & lolaskar head and perle hands.

The thing about sole sushi is that on the vasttttt majority of things your acc is capped with pizza, so why not get the att? Just because Gekko has an att bonus does not mean att is useless, you can see this buy the dmg increase your ws's get with berserk up. You also totally disregard the dmg increase your melee swings get with an att boost, you'd be surprised how much it adds up.

I laugh because it's true. What is also true is that THIS will be the expansion that finally trashes Hagun (thank god).

Yeah because i forgot to add the stp on brutal im a dumbass, good job ***.

Since you were so polite to refer to me as such a term:



I realize it's your weapon skill build, but you could even mark it as an "I'm trying to get my STR as high as I can" build. If you were doing the latter, though, your neck piece wouldn't be an fTP+0.1 gorget so I'd have to assume it's a weaponskill build, which means you actually TP in Axe Grip.

Then again, the 2% Double Attack of Pole Grip really won't help you get big numbers all the time on EP mobs for your screenshots section. All up to you. :-)

nothing wrong with axe grip on sam when you are /thf

Very true, but in situations where /THF is useful you'd also be having Hagun at your side. For the time being, at least.

after looking at his other melee tp sets I am going to go /wrist brb

edit: Not you Kyo the other guy

I know. ^^ Don't /wrist too hard, you seem to have a good head on your shoulders so don't need you dying now.

Says the retard who still TPs in Hachiman Kote for your 6 hit Hagun build. GOOD JOB MATE! Besides that your item sets are not much dissimilar to mine, so *** please, don't talk ***when its not warranted.

You TP in Ace's Helm & eat Rice balls!

The joke is on you my friend.

I dont play anymore so wtf you smoking? so you saying 6hit hagun sucked before the level cap 80 update and before rose strap?

my war tp set wipes the ***with yours

Oh hai, what's going on in this thread

Lulz Ryukuro deleted his set XD

No, Im saying you dont need hachiman kote to have a 6 hit build for hagun and you are sacrificing 3% haste and talking ***about my item sets. Sure it probably does as WAR is the job i use the least and doesn't get any love regarding gear...so what, did I come in here talking ***about your WAR TP build? No, i'm pretty sure I didn't.

Because you put up a set of mine which i havent updated in over a year you tool!

Come to Valefor and parse your Penta SAM vs mine then talk *** ***.

OMG HAHAHAHAHAHA

SERIOUSLY

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

so let me get this straight in before rose strap and no usu feet, how else are you suppose to get a 6hit? I want to know

/drg says hi and slaps you in the face

you mentioned my items sets if you cant read

Ryukuro, your SAM =

Lol he'd wipe the *** floor with you.

(Oh hai askar head)

this.

/wave hagun

I'm really surprised people still use Askar head, I thought people knew better.

Laugh all you like ^^ I really don't care.