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By Bahamut.Kujah 2013-06-03 11:21:17
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Welp, 2-0, advancing in the brackets. The 1v1s we did really helped, Kujah.


*** AP Yi l0l
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-06-03 12:33:34
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So Diana is fun, but squishier than I thought she'd be.
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By Bahamut.Kujah 2013-06-03 15:42:40
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
So Diana is fun, but squishier than I thought she'd be.

Probably one of my favourite champions at the moment. Rush Rabadons -> Lichbane and laugh as you 2shot just about anything that comes close!
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2013-06-03 15:53:29
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
So Diana is fun, but squishier than I thought she'd be.
I generally kid about building 2 doran rings on her and thats it, she becomes tanky as hell. Though if youre an in lane Diana, Ive seen people build Roa/Rylias on her. So basically youre not as bursty as you could be early on, but you do get tanky and you youre still a good utility to your team, you're basically a walking Oriana ult. Dash in, pull them in, and watch as they cripple walking out slowly.


Note: On the assassin build style(which she should be) Rushing an hourglass does wonders for her. She has a very powerful gap closer and sadly with gap closers like that, sometimes you might go in balls deep and youre team isnt able to reach you in time, so hourglass can help, esp if you do it on the enemy team, vaccum, hourglass while your team mops them up.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-06-03 16:01:32
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I was told to rush RoA, which is what made me feel she was a tankier AP, but also an assassin. Guess I was wrong. I'll start rushing Rabadon's I think.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-06-03 16:11:08
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2013-06-03 16:38:47
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
I was told to rush RoA, which is what made me feel she was a tankier AP, but also an assassin. Guess I was wrong. I'll start rushing Rabadon's I think.
Not because shes a tanky AP though, like Kassadin, a well known RoA rusher, she benefits from having extra HP(durability) because she's a melee AP champ on top of having to get into the enemies face head on.

She is on the higher end of HP as far as AP champs go though(like 2k base, most have 1700-1900). Again, items like rylias/Liandry's/Hourglass all help with her survivability.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-06-03 17:18:41
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Jeez, Blue Ez in ARAM is quite potent. Works much better with my ping of 28 *cough*.

Diana is tanky as *** through her shield, remember that. While Zhonya is amazing on her, she has a lot of ways to be tanky, whether it is through HP, straight MR/armor or her shield abuse (though her shield abuse is probably the #1 factor).
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2013-06-03 17:22:23
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
I was told to rush RoA, which is what made me feel she was a tankier AP, but also an assassin. Guess I was wrong. I'll start rushing Rabadon's I think.
Depends on how you play her. If lanes are stalled and you're going to poke farm then you'll benefit from more damage. If lanes collapse and you start teamfighting then you'll benefit more from the HP. I'd go for some durability more often than not, but I can see instances when Rabs is a rushed item.
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2013-06-03 17:23:40
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i've yet to try ez in aram. everytime i get ez people spam trade on me and when i tell them no they just rage quit the match -.-;
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2013-06-03 17:24:55
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He's up there but not worth raging over I think.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2013-06-03 17:27:38
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I prefer Kennen, Janna, Karma, and Taric in ARAMS. I dont really like ADCs too much in ARAM, though caitlyn is capable of zoning out a lot of ppl on that map.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2013-06-03 17:28:59
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Nidalee can be lethal. Yi and Zilean are pretty scary too. It's probably heimer's best map.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-06-03 17:33:29
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Ziggs is a monster in ARAM. Multiple times, I've gone 10+/0/20+ on Ziggs.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2013-06-03 17:36:01
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Khazix...that is all.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-06-03 17:47:13
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And Lux. 40% CD on that Lazer and pew pew pew pew all match.
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-06-03 18:58:08
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i think this is gonna be my new avatar.


btw bot vlad is the best thing evar.
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By Fairy.Spence 2013-06-03 19:01:08
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
And Lux. 40% CD on that Lazer and pew pew pew pew all match.

What's the CD on it now? I read they nerfed it a while back? Used to be 24 seconds at capped CDR D:
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2013-06-03 19:12:36
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Fairy.Spence said: »
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
And Lux. 40% CD on that Lazer and pew pew pew pew all match.

What's the CD on it now? I read they nerfed it a while back? Used to be 24 seconds at capped CDR D:
30 seconds with capped CDR now....
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-06-03 19:20:29
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34 I believe.

I had a Lux in that Ez match, she couldn't hit a single ult, it was amazing.

I had a good one with Morgana too, hadn't played her since my early LoL days, her Q does some damage.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-06-03 20:38:23
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
I was told to rush RoA, which is what made me feel she was a tankier AP, but also an assassin. Guess I was wrong. I'll start rushing Rabadon's I think.

To be honest I most likely would not due either due to the fact that RoA is meh on a champ like her but you really do need something to make you a bit tankier when you're going to be diving onto the enemy team

So honestly something like Abyssal can be pretty good to get as an early item with maybe a few dorans rings

and in case no one here has posted this I would use http://www.probuilds.net/ for standard build paths as it honestly is probably the best site to go for ***like that
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By Bahamut.Serj 2013-06-03 20:39:29
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Be Voyboy and rush a Nashor's Tooth.
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By Cerberus.Luminiel 2013-06-03 20:42:13
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Playing LeBlanc recently, I love that champ! 'For a moment I thought I broke a sweat'
Most guide says getting sorc boots on her but I have seen some good results in swapping to boots of mobility for faster ganks and catching up. Is it by default inferior to use boots of mobility and rush haunting guise instead of sorc boots?
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-06-03 20:54:38
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Cerberus.Luminiel said: »
Playing LeBlanc recently, I love that champ! 'For a moment I thought I broke a sweat'
Most guide says getting sorc boots on her but I have seen some good results in swapping to boots of mobility for faster ganks and catching up. Is it by default inferior to use boots of mobility and rush haunting guise instead of sorc boots?



since every ap can make good use of liandrys and it has magic pen it really has opened up a lot of boot options. personally i like to always build tenacity boots since there is no ap item that has it. with leblanc i don't know if using boots of mobility would be worth it over other options. the ability to hit b ot or top quick wont matter once you're in team fights. if you need magic pen you should build a void staff. imo ninja tabi, merc treads, or ionia boots.



*edit* but mostly merc treads on everything
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-06-03 21:00:31
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Was gonna say, may want to filter people like Voyboy from the list, among other people.

Epic website though.
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By Cerberus.Luminiel 2013-06-03 21:01:32
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I mostly plan on early game snowballing on LB before team fights as she falls back a bit late game. I totally agree with you on the team fight part of the game.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2013-06-03 21:29:39
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I dont think Liandry's is a good enough reason to skip out on sorc boots, I think with the changes to s3 its a good reason to postpone sorc boots but not entirely skip it. And if you do, youre probably on a champ that already did(Lux, vlad, and ad nid) or really heavy cc team and your getting focus'd a lot which you can get merc.

Reason I say that is because champs range around 30-50 mr depending. On top of bruisers and ADCs generally using blue runes for mr so thats another 24 mr, so basically youll still want all that magic pen just to get close to true damage(Thats not even considering MR shields/passives, items, auras, abilities).
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By Cerberus.Luminiel 2013-06-03 21:40:45
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Thanks, I am convinced :)
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2013-06-03 21:49:55
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still trying to figure this out...


http://www.probuilds.net/guide/NA/890779905/32400810
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2013-06-03 21:53:04
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I mean I have seen and read movement speed quints, that might be something to try? You are moving faster than boots of swiftness with t2 boots. You would sac some early game dominance but with them youd have better positioning on top of you're leblanc so you already bullied your lane with just your presence.
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