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By Fairy.Spence 2012-12-13 03:53:58
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So are AD casters good for the moment?
By volkom 2012-12-13 03:58:50
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Fairy.Spence said: »
So are AD casters good for the moment?

until black cleaver nerf. yeah.
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-12-13 04:50:27
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I have several hours to play, if anyone wants to play too!
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-12-13 08:56:07
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Just saw 7 black cleavers in a game. Good going, Riot.

Worse than atmogs.
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-12-13 09:00:43
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Fairy.Spence said: »
Just saw 7 black cleavers in a game. Good going, Riot.

Worse than atmogs.


I dont see how BC is so OP.
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By Odin.Headstrong 2012-12-13 09:05:01
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>.> <.<
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-12-13 09:07:32
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250 Health
10% CDR
15 Armor Pen.
50 Attack
Passive that can reduce armor up to 30%

All for 3000 gold
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-12-13 09:10:01
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Odin.Headstrong said: »


>.> <.<

Each player only needs 4. They dont stack with each other.

"The Black Cleaver debuff counts per target. Multiple Black Cleavers on the same champion or across multiple champions will only apply stacks of the debuff faster, but the max cap will still be 4 on each target."

Its -almost- the same Black Cleaver as before.
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By Odin.Headstrong 2012-12-13 09:21:06
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It's clearly a joke team? :|

Besides the BC stacking on everything is just annoying right now, happy when they nerf that thing
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-12-13 09:34:40
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do you guys not see how much gold they had? they clearly sold all of their stuff when they knew they were going to lose probably (aka they be trollins)


that is just an over exaggeration, and no champ should have more than 2 BC's at once because then it is pretty much a wasted slot.
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By Odin.Headstrong 2012-12-13 09:38:24
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Look at the team name .-.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-12-13 10:30:45
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Bismarck.Faelar said: »

That's not really why it's OP at the moment though

Say you buy four black cleavers so you can hit someone with an ability and then AA them for tons of damage because you got rid of all there armor or something

on top of them losing the 30% of their armor you have the 60 Flat Armor pen plus whatever armor pen you're getting from runes and masteries (which includes 8% armor penetration which is now taken into account before flat armor pen)

so if someone has like 120 armor and you shred through 30% of their armor they get put at 84 armor, and lets say you're running weapon expertise which would penetrate 8% of their armor they're put at 77.3 Armor, and say you run armor pen reds you'd get 72 overall armor pen along with the BCs so with an attack it would be like you're hitting a target with 5.3 Armor

get 3 points in sunder and you're doing true damage
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-12-13 10:33:50
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And the strongest atm with these black cleavers are probably Rengar (you don't actually need to stack them on him to one shot people), Kha'zix, Talon, and Riven

It's pretty okay to get on Olaf as well, though you really only want and need one because without tons of beefyness you're going to get blown up in fights

Basically in this patch you build health to counter BCs because armor really doesnt do anything for you
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2012-12-13 10:44:09
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Rengar (._.) It's really funny to be able to one shot anyone at any point in the game, pick and feast.
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By Rhaokin 2012-12-13 14:44:40
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They're bringing some old Christmas skins out of retirement temporarily!!!

League of Legends Snowdown 2012



All 4 of the legacy skin champions they're reviving are on sale this week, so be sure to grab them if you don't have them.



Bismarck.Faelar said: »
I have several hours to play, if anyone wants to play too!

I had that avatar last month ya hooligan! By default it should be uncool now.
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-12-13 14:59:25
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Rhaokin said: »
They're bringing some old Christmas skins out of retirement temporarily!!!

League of Legends Snowdown 2012



All 4 of the legacy skin champions they're reviving are on sale this week, so be sure to grab them if you don't have them.



Bismarck.Faelar said: »
I have several hours to play, if anyone wants to play too!

I had that avatar last month ya hooligan! By default it should be uncool now.

That champ sale ends tomorrow!

Might get Toy Soldier Gangplank. The others are meh. Arclight Varus Sale, where?!

Also, I change it like 10 times a day now xD I have a folder with like 40 LoL avatars in it now xD
By volkom 2012-12-13 15:53:00
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Asura.Lolserj said: »
And the strongest atm with these black cleavers are probably Rengar (you don't actually need to stack them on him to one shot people), Kha'zix, Talon, and Riven

It's pretty okay to get on Olaf as well, though you really only want and need one because without tons of beefyness you're going to get blown up in fights

Basically in this patch you build health to counter BCs because armor really doesnt do anything for you
and pantheon
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-12-13 15:57:40
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volkom said: »
Asura.Lolserj said: »
And the strongest atm with these black cleavers are probably Rengar (you don't actually need to stack them on him to one shot people), Kha'zix, Talon, and Riven

It's pretty okay to get on Olaf as well, though you really only want and need one because without tons of beefyness you're going to get blown up in fights

Basically in this patch you build health to counter BCs because armor really doesnt do anything for you
and pantheon

I would say pantheon is good right now but isn't the strongest pick
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-12-13 15:58:58
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Still someone you build BCs on.
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-12-13 16:26:20
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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2898650

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The Black Cleaver
Armor Reduction per stack reduced to 6.25% from 7.5% (Maximum reduction is now 25% from 30%)
Flat Armor Penetration reduced to 10 from 15 and is now UNIQUE


BAM! Nerf bat hits a homerun!

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Zyra
Rise of the Thorns
Damage reduced to 100-440 from 124-549
Missile Speed reduced to 1900 from 2200
Missile Width reduced to 70 from 90
Grasping Roots
Missile Speed reduced to 1150 from 1325

Zyra nerfed yet again. inb4 new Irelia jokes?
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By Rhaokin 2012-12-13 16:53:17
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More pleased about those much-needed Diana nerfs. <3 Tired of getting super fed with AD Carry or a squishy mid, then while focusing someone down Diana casually strolls through the entire team (I mean she dashes 1/2 screen distance) to 2-shot me.

Also a lot of original summoner names are going to become available whenever the patch hits. Time to camp out until the server's up and snag a new name.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2012-12-13 17:20:24
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About Diana:

I can see the nerf on the ult be extremely annoying, as personally I used the max distance for a lot of things (such as farming blue from max distance, faster travel speed). Turret diving will be harder, mainly.
Moonfall pull idk, usually you use it after the first Lunar rush so it shouldn't matter too much, very rarely do I need to use the edge of the AOE.

But ***, Zyra, they hit her hard.

Enjoying these Yi buffs.

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# Consumable items now display a stack count in the scoreboard
I like that. I often camp the scoreboard in order to track my opponent's supply of potion, so that I can make sure the guy dies and such.

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Adjustments have been made to the in-game chat box font size
Good thing, too.

Looks like a good update to me.

Mandatory:

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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-12-13 17:25:11
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Smite damage increased to 490-1000 from 445-870? Is this the answer to OMGJUNGLEISHARDNOW?

Also, once Gifting hits, feel free to gift FFXIAH people skins and champs :D Lets get some holiday spirit going~!
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By Rhaokin 2012-12-13 20:13:00
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It's a real shame the gift center will be a waste to me
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-12-13 20:36:56
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Ya, who would buy you a gift. Lolololol
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-12-13 21:00:34
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Lets get a thing going, and if anyone feels like giving some holiday cheer, they can simply pick someone and something off their list :P

Summoner Name: Eretai

Wish List
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SKINS
Sandstorm Katarina
High Command Katarina
Arclight Varus
Jurassic Kog'Maw
Sorceress Lux
Spellthief Lux
Mafia Miss Fortune
Arcade Sona
Vindicator Vayne
Heartseeker Vayne


CHAMPS
Leona
Vladimir
Taric
Jayce
Twitch
Elise
Shen
Pantheon
Gangplank
Ahri
Volibear
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By Shiva.Fereydoon 2012-12-13 21:20:15
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Just remember they have to have been on your FL prior to the update that introduced the gifting center.
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By SSJAV 2012-12-13 21:22:15
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Dumb question but does Tiamat/Hydra work on Gangplank's Parrrley?
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2012-12-13 21:22:17
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If you really want, we can do as we do at my work:

Secret Santa. Collect names of everyone wishing to participate, shuffle, have them pick a name in a hat, they have to keep the name for themselves and offer a present to the name they picked up.

I got some neat Street Fighter figures last year this way...
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-12-13 21:24:38
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
If you really want, we can do as we do at my work:

Secret Santa. Collect names of everyone wishing to participate, shuffle, have them pick a name in a hat, they have to keep the name for themselves and offer a present to the name they picked up.

I got some neat Street Fighters figures last year this way...
I like this idea, everyone gets a skin/champ, and everyone gets the tiles. I'm in if it gets some traction. It wouldn't be exactly random because of flist issues, but could work something out that everyone trades with someone else.
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