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I say if you like Soboro then use it. If you like kagun then use it. Go with your choice not stats. :P
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Alexander.Garlend said: I say if you like Soboro then use it. If you like kagun then use it. Go with your choice not stats. :P Please don't say things like that. =/ My eyes have been opened... everyone bust out the denali caps and full af!
Leviathan.Draylo said: My eyes have been opened... everyone bust out the denali caps and full af! THF FIRST? Leviathan.Draylo said: Just people spouting ***they read off forums with no further knowledge to back it up. Which bit do you doubt? * Soboro being able to match other GKT? * Pole arm beating soboro? * OAT GKT beats soboro? Can provide proof for any of the above, but cba to prove it all. Odin.Chazzyphizzle
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Pretty sure he's talking about the OP.
I love the way the OP looks like an idiot now.
Odin.Chazzyphizzle said: Pretty sure he's talking about the OP. Ahhhh fair enough, must of got the wrong end of the stick. Alexander.Garlend said: I say if you like Soboro then use it. If you like kagun then use it. Go with your choice not stats. :P kaguun? Asura.Xenophire said: tl;dr version? OP tried to embarrass some guy. I did math that proved the OP wrong. OPs thread failed. The End~ :D Soboro is great for /dnc, and it's awesome for /rng.. I skilled the majority of my parry on sam/rng in dynamis, throwing sidewinders out left and right. But as far as /drg goes.. it's fun, yes, but it's also kinda like riding a bike with training wheels. Get your timing down for your self sc's with it, for sure.. but then move to a different GKT and you'll see a lot more damage on those self skillchains. Plus it's a little more gratifying when you pull off a 3 step light every time you meditate (4-step if sekkanoki is up) with a heavier GKT :D Just sayin.. I was dependent on soboro for my sam/drg setup for a long time, and was happy to see I could still pull it off w/ hagun.
sooo, where's the hagun bandwagon when you need it? lol
6 months ago half the ffxiah population would have jumped in this thread and showed all kinds of math showing how hagun is superior to everything but amano Where are all of you now? Surely just because there's some new content added in game, it shouldnt mean that the old math you all preached for so long is invalid and wrong all of a sudden? Edit: rate me down huh? Damn, you really got me there. Just check every damn sam/hagun/soboro thread, every GK thread or sam equip request thread on this site. The "math pro's" of ffxiah have proven a bazillion times that hagun > soboro unless /rng. What have changed? I'm not one of those math nerds, so im not gonna do it. I'm also not the person who cares really. I just think its funny that the whole "Hagun or gtfo!" group seems to have all dissapeared all of a sudden. Hagun beats soboro in situation where cratio boost is needed.
Hagun is beaten by 2-3 GKT where cratio boost is needed. Soboro beats hagun where cratio boost isn't needed. Polearm beats soboro when cratio isn't needed. So hagun is never the best weapon any more, but neither is soboro. Just soboro is easier to get that a decent polearm build. Caitsith.Linear said: Asura.Xenophire said: tl;dr version? OP tried to embarrass some guy. I did math that proved the OP wrong. OPs thread failed. The End~ :D Oh you must be so proud of yourself! I love how Linear's calcuatlons completely disregard the fact that the majority of the time you use a Soboro, you don't ws at 100tp due to a DA/TA when you only need 1/2 swings to reach 100 tp respectively. This means it is not a direct 1.9 increase. Ofcourse the faster you swing as haste is added, the tougher it is to ws at exactly 100 tp. Also... I think the type of sam that weaponskills in "130 str" is exactly the type of sam that thinks soboro is useful outside of Yoichi and /dnc.
Ifrit.Zibo said: I love how Linear's calcuatlons completely disregard the fact that the majority of the time you use a Soboro, you don't ws at 100tp due to a DA/TA when you only need 1/2 swings to reach 100 tp respectively. This means it is not a direct 1.9 increase. Ofcourse the faster you swing as haste is added, the tougher it is to ws at exactly 100 tp. Also... I think the type of sam that weaponskills in "130 str" is exactly the type of sam that thinks soboro is useful outside of Yoichi and /dnc. /rng sidewinder spam for fun duh lol |
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