Perle Hauberk Vs Askar Korazin

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 Hades.Drayco
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By Hades.Drayco 2010-07-11 19:50:52
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I'm wanting some opinions on this topic from some other people. Here is my take on the 2.

Perle has +2 attack on Askar while on my drk/sam.

Of course perle has more acc cause askar has none, but I have 8/8 merits and acc never seems to be that big of an issue on my drk (feel free to mock and laugh at that statement)

The store TP is pretty handy on askar, but not needed for my drk 6hit.

Here is what I want your guys opinion on. Perle has +2 crit and + 4 dex (crit mod). For the most part a crit will do 2x dmg than a normal hit. Now the double attack is +2% on askar and will do about the same dmg as a crit, but I will yield the TP from 2 strikes.

Do you think perle is better, or is having a 5 swing 100% better than scoring a crit? I'm leaning towards askar, but damn is perle nice looking ^^
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-07-11 19:55:07
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Hauberk (+1)
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By Shiva.Superdan 2010-07-11 19:58:17
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Check your acc out on ffxi calculator, if it's not up to standard, use the perle imo.

Also, probably best to state full tp set? So we can see if you win on perle due to haste, or if you have a better haste setup with homam/turban etc.

Edit: Nightfyre has a point right there, lol. Hauberk > Perle in most situations (Unless you need the haste bonus?)
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By Hades.Drayco 2010-07-11 20:04:01
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Here is my TP set

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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-07-11 20:07:21
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Hauberk ( 1)
Turban, Homam/Dusk hands... unless it's like DRG where full Perle ends up being ok, not sure since body options are different.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2010-07-11 20:08:45
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Use Wala Turban + Dusk Gloves.
Hauberk(+1) on any mobs worthwhile.
Maybe Rose Strap too? Don't feel like doing math atm.
(Blitz Ring or Toreador's if you can afford it)
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By Hades.Drayco 2010-07-11 20:09:04
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I'm leaning towards all the DD stats on perle hands opposed to the +1 haste from dusk/homan.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-07-11 20:09:51
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Hades.Drayco said:
I'm leaning towards all the DD stats on perle hands opposed to the 1 haste from dusk/homan.
You would be wrong there, especially for Homam.
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By Phoenix.Baelorn 2010-07-11 20:12:05
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Hades.Drayco said:
I'm leaning towards all the DD stats on perle hands opposed to the 1 haste from dusk/homan.

Testing shows the perle head actually has 2.8% haste making it even closer to homam+turban for haste.
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-11 20:12:09
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Dear god please stop with the iota rings lol. Drk will never have a crit build. Use a blitz ring/rajas combo.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2010-07-11 20:14:09
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Quote broken, but 2.8% on the head is irrelevant unless you're wearing the full set. 2.8% on legs or hands would be nice...
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By Hades.Drayco 2010-07-11 20:14:37
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Cerberus.Excelior said:
Dear god please stop with the iota rings lol. Drk will never have a crit build. Use a blitz ring/rajas combo.

Oh, and your a drk expert... PSH!
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Hades.Drayco said:
I'm leaning towards all the DD stats on perle hands opposed to the 1 haste from dusk/homan.
You would be wrong there, especially for Homam.

How is +4 acc or +5 attack better than +4 str +2 dex +10attack and only -1% haste?
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By Phoenix.Airbag 2010-07-11 20:17:51
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Cerberus.Excelior said:
Dear god please stop with the iota rings lol. Drk will never have a crit build. Use a blitz ring/rajas combo.

yes since everyone can afford every piece of gear and Iota is worse than a 5acc ring right

*** Off!
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-07-11 20:20:14
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Cerberus.Excelior said:
Dear god please stop with the iota rings lol. Drk will never have a crit build. Use a blitz ring/rajas combo.

Blitz is only better if you don't need the ACC from Iota. Try again?
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By Phoenix.Baelorn 2010-07-11 20:25:34
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The point of the 2.8% haste on the head is that it brings it to 13.8% haste vs 14% haste making the choice of what to use easier depending on what you are fighting.

For him it would be

STR +22
DEX +14
VIT +10
Attack +25
Accuracy +18
Enmity +4
"Critical hit rate" +2%
Haste +13.8

vs

STR +9
DEX +4
VIT +4
Attack +12
Accuracy +9
Haste +14
Store TP +5
Double Attack +2%
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-11 20:28:36
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Caitsith.Linear said:
Cerberus.Excelior said:
Dear god please stop with the iota rings lol. Drk will never have a crit build. Use a blitz ring/rajas combo.
Blitz is only better if you don't need the ACC from Iota. Try again?

If you're over 70% accuracy you'll get more out of 1% haste than you will out of 1% accuracy. Math. Try again?
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-07-11 20:30:02
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Drop the askar head, just drop it... But you won't have a 6hit w/o that Askar body so will need to replace it with a rose strap, also currently w/ that Askar body you do not have capped acc, you would have around 90% even w/ full merits. But should get Haub+1/Dusk/Turban and Iota is a fine free choice, not the best option but far from the worse.
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-07-11 20:38:02
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3 DEX = 2-3 ACC
3 ACC

That's 5-6 ACC. So, 2.5% or 3% hitrate improvement. 70% ACC, right?

2.5/70*100= 3.5% increase.

3/70*100= 4.2% increase.


60% Haste
1/40= 2.5%
70%Haste
1/30= 3.3%
75% Haste
1/25= 4%
80% Haste
1/20= 5%

Yup. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better. WHEN YOU'RE ZERGING.
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-11 20:39:23
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Well ulthalam's ring is free and its better. IDK how much a sniper's ring costs these days but its cheap and better as well. My point is it isn't optimal and its far easier to get something that is for that slot.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-07-11 20:39:49
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Quote:
Testing shows the perle head actually has 2.8% haste making it even closer to homam+turban for haste.

Ooh, is there a link to this? This would make the whole full Perle vs mix&match thing a whole lot easier for the Homam jobs.
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-07-11 20:44:29
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Cerberus.Excelior said:
Well ulthalam's ring is free and its better. IDK how much a sniper's ring costs these days but its cheap and better as well. My point is it isn't optimal and its far easier to get something that is for that slot.

1-2 ACC > 4 ATT.

the minimal crit gain from 3 dex and maybe 1 ACC > -10 DEF.
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-11 20:52:10
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Caitsith.Linear said:
Cerberus.Excelior said:
Well ulthalam's ring is free and its better. IDK how much a sniper's ring costs these days but its cheap and better as well. My point is it isn't optimal and its far easier to get something that is for that slot.
1-2 ACC > 4 ATT. the minimal crit gain from 3 dex and maybe 1 ACC > -10 DEF.

The difference would be minimal. I suppose saying that ulthalam's is better was a mistake. Drayco really should have a blitz ring though. He has kraken club and other expensive gear, he DOES have the gil lol.
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2010-07-11 20:55:34
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If the perle set has 13.8% haste....
does that mean that it is the best DRK TP setup?
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-07-11 21:04:12
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if you dont have homam hands, feet and legs then perle set is your friend. Those three homam pieces with w turban gives you 14%haste.

edit homam is still king for zerg
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-07-11 21:05:39
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is this even considered a serious argument?
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By Phoenix.Brexx 2010-07-11 21:10:29
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"If the perle set has 13.8% haste....
does that mean that it is the best DRK TP setup?" Seriously Fred and i wanna know.
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-07-11 21:15:24
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it is not the best tp setup for dark

Ebody or that new haste 2% body if you can afford the accuracy loss with dusk+1 hands or Timarli Dastanas with homam legs, feet and w turban.....

/wrist
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-07-11 21:16:50
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or you can melee in full hecatomb for the slowest tp setup
but I wouldnt
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By Phoenix.Brexx 2010-07-11 21:18:08
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ok..then does Perle set beat out W.turban,Homam hands, Homam legs, Homam feet, and hauberk body?
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-07-11 21:21:50
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