New Elemental Staves

Does anyone know if the New Magician Staffs knock down any of the Avatar's Perp cost?

Like does Indra Staff give Ramuh a -4 perp cost?

I'm really hoping so ^^;

They give -5perp, but need to be lvl80 to use them

yeah but you need the weather to get the -5 perp BUT it is still good and for smn , sch are the BEST friend you can have now if you have dyna afv2 and staff like that.

they need weather? i must have not been paying attention.

and when the level cap increases you can get 5/8 weathers by subbing sch

you're wrong surgator i just finished yama staff and my avatars got the perp-5 by any weather/day!

The -5 perp lv80 staves are upgrades to the -4 perp Teiwaz (which don't need weather/day), meaning you need to have the corresponding Teiwaz before doing the trials for the lv80 one, best part is each element have different names so they can be macro'd, which you couldn't do with multiple Teiwaz. Worst part is you have to obtain ALL the different -perp Teiwaz to get the -5 perp staves for all avatars :( {/joy}