WHM Shellra/Protectra V Merits

So I am kinda curious... with the release of single tierV buff spells, will merits cross over when you cast a single tier? My WHM has capped shellraV merits, and it would suck if those merits didn't carry over when casting shellV.

I have not found anything addressed about this from SE, so maybe it's just something that they have not considered yet. I can't really imagine it's something you can test either, so I was wondering if anyone has had these same thoughts, or heard anything about this.

Based off of what I see on wiki, the single targets act as if you have full merits in the -ra.

No discussion on the wiki and no further confirmation that I can find.

so would (accession + protect V) be the better choice?

I'm no WHM but I'd say if you're getting the same values, go with the AoE /sch ability and toss those merits into regen or something else cool.
Then proceed to AoE Regen III your party later just for fun. ^^

Protect and Shell V are category 2 merits, Regen potency is in category 1...

And if this is true... then essentially protectra/shellra V merits are essentially useless if you use accession because it gives you capped merits for both spells.

Nooooo! The sadness ;;
Glad I put that "I'm no whm" part... anyway
That is pretty much the case, haha. Hence my reasoning for tossing those merits and cappin' out that Devotion/Martyr. (I looked at merits this time lol >>;)
Edit: That is, only if single target Pro/Shell give the same effect.

yea, single tier buff spells act like you have capped merits... so all you need is accession. /sadface they made my merits useless!

Your merits also enhance the basic spells further then the single target spells do.

Currently, my WHM merits are 1-Prora5, 4-Devotion, 5-Shellra5

With this update I'm removing Pro5 and capping Devo and leaving Shellra5 since it will never be beaten by a single target.

your merits are exactly what mine are... but as my original post was asking, does shell5 insta-cap? from the description on wiki protect is, but I was not sure about shell

so would (accession + protect V) be the better choice?

^ oops double post

It would be better unless you had capped protectra5 merits, and even then it would be the same effect as accession protect5.

wouldnt capped protectra5 give 68 Def?

Still might be a good idea to at least have 1 merit in each ProraV/ShellraV just in-case of that rare time when you're not /sch.

Idk I think I'm going to keep my merits on WHM -- Beats paying 100+ per spell.

It depends on what you call "better", personally I'm not a fan of blowing 168MP (84MP more than the Merited Proectra V) on something I can get for 84MP.

Similarly with Shellra V, 93MP for the merited version and ~186MP for the Accession > Shell V version.

EDIT: Made a mistake in those numbers, forgot it was only the Recast which was tripled and not both Recast/Cost.

SOOO when we gonna get like Dia III or Slow II or some spells other ppl used merits to get that SE wants them to get for free /sadface

Im not changing my merits on WHM, I slogged my back side off to fully merit that job. SE can jog on if they think their update will make that change!

As for the spells costing 100K+, just wait a while I'm sure they will drop at some point when people want a quick sale, same with all new things really. Start off expensive and then become reasonable after a month or so.