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 Siren.Itachi
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By Siren.Itachi 2010-06-19 18:09:29
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is there good money to be made combining the two?
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By Leviathan.Willoflame 2010-06-19 18:12:31
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To my understanding, not too much... Ctownwoody once said:

Fishing is fun and a good source of gil, but it adds exactly nothing to your profits. If the fish were that valuable, you’d sell them on AH. Same goes with Harvesting, Chocobo Digging, or Gardening; use those activities to solve supply issues, such as no supply or extremely variable supply.
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By Asura.Israfel 2010-06-19 18:12:56
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Absolutely!
But as a cook I can say it's a pain in the arse sometimes haha. You won't make millions in one synth, the money comes from lots of little synths.

Depending on how the economy is on your server, or what's being powercrafted can make your moneymaking very easy or very stressful. Fishing at 100 is profitable enough in itself, cooking is like the icing on the cake~

Just remember not to flood the market, if the price of one food you'd like to synth seems low, wait it out til it goes back up in price or look at more obscure items to make a steady amount of cash ~
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-06-19 18:22:31
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It can be, but like Israfel said, you're not gonna cash in big on an HQ with cooking.

If your patient, fish up mats for tavnazian tacos. Also, on Fairy/Sylph, the only good sushi to make was squid

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By Bismarck.Magnumatic 2010-06-19 18:30:14
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There is not much profit in any of the crafts.

You're simply making the gil back that you blew getting the craft to 100!

Or.. Making the gil back you blew trying to HQ...

Or.. You are extremely lucky!

But you have a better chance winning the mog bonanza!
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By Asura.Israfel 2010-06-19 18:35:19
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Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
There is not much profit in any of the crafts.

You're simply making the gil back that you blew getting the craft to 100!

Or.. Making the gil back you blew trying to HQ...

Or.. You are extremely lucky!

But you have a better chance winning the mog bonanza!

If that's the case then you're doing it wrong.
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-06-19 18:38:31
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Asura.Israfel said:
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
There is not much profit in any of the crafts.

You're simply making the gil back that you blew getting the craft to 100!

Or.. Making the gil back you blew trying to HQ...

Or.. You are extremely lucky!

But you have a better chance winning the mog bonanza!

If that's the case then you're doing it wrong.

No no no, the gil we have is clearly a lie!
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By Bismarck.Magnumatic 2010-06-19 18:39:38
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Asura.Israfel said:
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
There is not much profit in any of the crafts. You're simply making the gil back that you blew getting the craft to 100! Or.. Making the gil back you blew trying to HQ... Or.. You are extremely lucky! But you have a better chance winning the mog bonanza!
If that's the case then you're doing it wrong.

I'm never wrong.

Please specify what exactly it is that you are talking about.

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By Siren.Itachi 2010-06-19 18:41:14
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another question: For this combo to work would i need to acquire a lu shang's rod? I have the money to buy one and I was highly considering this. Thoughts?
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By Bismarck.Magnumatic 2010-06-19 18:44:16
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Fairy.Spence said:
Asura.Israfel said:
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
There is not much profit in any of the crafts. You're simply making the gil back that you blew getting the craft to 100! Or.. Making the gil back you blew trying to HQ... Or.. You are extremely lucky! But you have a better chance winning the mog bonanza!
If that's the case then you're doing it wrong.
No no no, the gil we have is clearly a lie!

The gil you have is not profit.

If you bought a house for 500k dollars, then you sell it later for 150k...

Sure you have 150k!

But that isn't profit.
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By Cerberus.Oulanbator 2010-06-19 18:46:36
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You'll get more profit out of your cooking if you're fishing the mats by yourself, because the fish usually represents 1/3 to 2/3 of the total cost of your recipe.
I started doing this and it was great, I was happy with my profits, and proud to produce something "by myself from scratch".

Then I realized I could simply sell the fish. It saved me the hassle of muling, gathering mats from everywhere in vanadiel, taking a chance at breaks, dealing with these 3 leftover crystals or travelling to get that missing wasabi I needed because of a bad synth break, waiting for the shop to open and realizing after midnight their holiday day began ...

The question is: could the time spent crafting be used more efficiently if I fished instead ?

I think any of these are profitable if you put efforts in them, taken separately or together. I think doing both just adds variety in your activities (like not doing the same thing every day), and more options to adapt to the market situations, but that's it.
Having both won't make your profits better, because both requires time, time you could have spent on the other craft making profit.
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-06-19 18:49:35
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Siren.Itachi said:
another question: For this combo to work would i need to acquire a lu shang's rod? I have the money to buy one and I was highly considering this. Thoughts?

I'd recommend it, it allows you to catch the fish you need a lot sooner.

And disregard Magnumatic ~
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By Cerberus.Oulanbator 2010-06-19 18:52:50
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Siren.Itachi said:
another question: For this combo to work would i need to acquire a lu shang's rod? I have the money to buy one and I was highly considering this. Thoughts?
You'll need the Lu'Shang when getting in the 40s.

You can buy it and do the quest, but I highly suggest you are in one of the cases below if you choose to do the quest:
- you spend hours in DA on a regular basis. DA is a great carp spot, and it allows you to use these 28 minutes wait between windows efficiently by working on the quest
- you dual-box. In this case you can use a mule fishing in ronfaure (or wherever) during all the timesinks of this game (waiting for people to gather, waiting for ??? to repop...)

If not, you're probably better fishing (or farming) something else and buying the rod or carps.
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By Leviathan.Scorch 2010-06-19 18:59:26
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Fishing is a great way to get essentially free money. Now as for the combination of Cooking and Fishing, I don't believe there are any big bucks to be made.
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By Bismarck.Magnumatic 2010-06-19 19:02:28
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Fairy.Spence said:
Siren.Itachi said:
another question: For this combo to work would i need to acquire a lu shang's rod? I have the money to buy one and I was highly considering this. Thoughts?
I'd recommend it, it allows you to catch the fish you need a lot sooner. And disregard Magnumatic ~

Why? Because I don't tell him what he "wants" to hear?
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By Stnick 2010-06-19 19:04:29
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Wow, Magnumatic you are by far the stupidest mother *** I've ever had the misfortune to share a forum with.... and I was on the TF2 forums for a while.

Wow.
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By Cerberus.Oulanbator 2010-06-19 19:06:06
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Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
Why? Because I don't tell him what he "wants" to hear?

Tone, arrogance and moreover this really annoying avatar are probably good enough reasons to disregard you . . .
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2010-06-19 19:06:57
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You're all morons. There's a ton of money to be made on the two.

My friend funded a relic in 4 months with fishing and cooking only. He has 4 accounts, but still.

There is money in fishing and cooking. You wont make 20k a synth, but you can easily make millions.
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By Stnick 2010-06-19 19:07:43
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It goes to show that someone with every 75 can be as oblivious as *** when it comes to basic common sense.
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By Cerberus.Oulanbator 2010-06-19 19:10:16
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Lakshmi.Aurilius said:
You're all morons. There's a ton of money to be made on the two.
We're not all morons. There is money to make if he puts the efforts in, that's pretty much it.
It's not "easy" though, it's a lot of work... but it's also respectable work if you're not botting, unlike other reprehensible activities.
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By Lakshmi.Giti 2010-06-19 19:23:56
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if you have cooking and fishing 100 you will never be broke and u can ez make 1~3mil a week
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By Asura.Tygon 2010-06-19 19:26:18
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Leviathan.Scorch said:
Fishing is a great way to get essentially free money. Now as for the combination of Cooking and Fishing, I don't believe there are any big bucks to be made.

Just quoted this but there are many posts like it. There IS money to be made if you are 100 fishing and 100 cooking. Take sole sushi for example. If you catch your own black sole you can virtually undercut everyone else that is crafting sole sushi and still come out with almost double profits. There is money to be made fishing and cooking it just is not as fast is lets say a leather crafting or a GS HQ.



EDIT: On average I can net in an extra 3 mil or so a week just fishing for a few hrs a week and crafting the target fish. I prolly fish around 8 hrs a week and spend about 1 hr crafting my catch. As long as you watch the AH and see what is selling for the most and then craft them its win/win all the way around
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By Gonzi8046 2010-06-19 19:30:14
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I have 95 cooking 80 fishing. Took me about 3 years to get my fishing that high but it was worth it. I fish every full and new moon either qufim or sea serpent grotto I then craft about 30-40 stacks of squid sushi and about 15 of tavnazian tacos then AH them slowly throughout a one week span or so. After they have all sold i grab my rod and do it over again...I get about 500-600k a week doing something that is enjoyable to me.
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By Gonzi8046 2010-06-19 19:30:36
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You have to have a good setup though, I have stockpile of my mats on mules so that I dont waste time running around gathering mats.
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By Pandemonium.Kajidourden 2010-06-19 19:33:36
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Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
Asura.Israfel said:
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
There is not much profit in any of the crafts. You're simply making the gil back that you blew getting the craft to 100! Or.. Making the gil back you blew trying to HQ... Or.. You are extremely lucky! But you have a better chance winning the mog bonanza!
If that's the case then you're doing it wrong.

I'm never wrong.

Please specify what exactly it is that you are talking about.


It's called research. I leveled my Woodworking and made a good chunk of money, and that isn't counting all the money I saved leveling RNG, which is just as good as making money.

Bottom line, the key is to look into what you want to craft, explore every possible recipe and find what's going to be the most advantageous for you. Cooking and fishing sounds like a winning combination, but I haven't done the research personally.
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By Pandemonium.Kajidourden 2010-06-19 19:35:18
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Gonzi8046 said:
You have to have a good setup though, I have stockpile of my mats on mules so that I dont waste time running around gathering mats.

This. My mule has earth/wind crystals galore. And AH's the rest. When i need more crystals of one or the other than I have (never run out of wind thanks to lolbri's) I simply take the money he has from selling other crystal types and buy those.
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By Mareo 2010-06-19 19:36:20
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I have cooking 100 and Fishing 98 it is a good combo to do, your not making million gil synths but your stuff sells fast and it adds up quite fast... You fish to get ya synths then you craft you HQ and Sell...while you wait for that to sell you Fish up fish that NPC for 25k a pop...instant gil. So i dunno about the haters out there...but yea its a good combo. Happy fishing ^-^
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By Asura.Tygon 2010-06-19 19:58:14
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Gonzi8046 said:
You have to have a good setup though, I have stockpile of my mats on mules so that I dont waste time running around gathering mats.

/nod Helps to have a mule running around lower J and another chilling at cooking guild cause tarutaru rice is stupidly priced
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By Leviathan.Dubont 2010-06-19 20:09:50
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If you buy a lure and a pole, everything after is pure profit. This means that fishing (if using a lure) is pretty much a one time cost and the rest is profit. To the guy that said fishing adds nothing to profits, my 250k/day would like to have a word with you =D
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By Stnick 2010-06-19 20:10:22
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He also said you should have 5/5 zanshin attack rate merits.
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