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Man(a previous victim) kills child molester and gets 9 years.
Man(a previous victim) kills child molester and gets 9 years.
Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out!
>.> <.< Fairy.Spence said: Shiva.Weewoo said: My point was we examine circumstances, evidence and consider the rights of both sides before carrying out harsh irreversible actions against the accused. Didn't you say there's no way to justify murder? Circumstance would be irrelevant then, no? It's not like the guy walked off free. He got 9 years, which IMO is a light sentence for murder, even for being previously victimized (of a non-violent crime) by the victim as a child. Ultimately he chose how to handle what happened and how he was going to carry on with his life after such a thing happened. Sadly it ended with the death of another person. Molester or not, he died and didn't have to. Fairy.Spence said: I think we're just getting a bit 'soft' in general. The caning and what not is a bit much, but I think we need stronger deterrents. Good news is, Utah is about to execute their first prisoner in the last like 50 years. He chose firing squad, good stuff. Fairy.Spence said: Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out! >.> <.< Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Good news is, Utah is about to execute their first prisoner in the last like 50 years. He chose firing squad, good stuff. Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: He chose firing squad, good stuff. Ramuh.Dasva said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Good news is, Utah is about to execute their first prisoner in the last like 50 years. He chose firing squad, good stuff. lol @ Monty Python Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Fairy.Spence said: I think we're just getting a bit 'soft' in general. The caning and what not is a bit much, but I think we need stronger deterrents. Good news is, Utah is about to execute their first prisoner in the last like 50 years. He chose firing squad, good stuff. What'd he do to warrant that? And Wee, he didn't have to die, cuz there are far worse things than dying IMO :P Should have the choice to become a gladiator.
Fairy.Spence said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Fairy.Spence said: I think we're just getting a bit 'soft' in general. The caning and what not is a bit much, but I think we need stronger deterrents. Good news is, Utah is about to execute their first prisoner in the last like 50 years. He chose firing squad, good stuff. What'd he do to warrant that? And Wee, he didn't have to die, cuz there are far worse things than dying IMO :P Fate worse than death? Living as a quada-plegic, life in prison as a child molester Surprised we haven't capitalized on death with Blood Sport pay-per-view yet. Aren't we an opportunistic nation?
Fairy.Spence said: I think we're just getting a bit 'soft' in general. The caning and what not is a bit much, but I think we need stronger deterrents. we need to stop throwing people in prison that like to smoke a little herb after work and leave the prisons for the real criminals. Shiva.Weewoo said: Surprised we haven't capitalized on death with Blood Sport pay-per-view yet. Aren't we an opportunistic nation? Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Fate worse than death? Living as a quada-plegic, life in prison as a child molester Pretty much, I'd rather die than live out the rest of my life in prison without a chance of getting out And yea, quadriplegic wouldn't be too much fun either Asura.Allyson
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Fairy.Spence said: I think we're just getting a bit 'soft' in general. The caning and what not is a bit much, but I think we need stronger deterrents. Research has shown, over and over again, that harsher punishments make recidivism worse. Maybe the opinion we differ on isn't really the severity of punishment needed, but the role of the justice system. I believe the purpose of the prison system is to turn criminals into functioning members of society. A jail sentence does nothing if the person just commits another crime upon being released. You've only succeed in delaying the inevitable. Justice should be about transforming criminals into members of society, or removing them from it if the former isn't possible. Revenge is completely useless. Justice systems are one of the things that makes law and order better then the alternative. Fairy.Spence said: I think we're just getting a bit 'soft' in general. The caning and what not is a bit much, but I think we need stronger deterrents. and for the sake of argument: let's say we put someone that's being alleged to a sexual crime in prison right away. And even when he's charged guilty. put him in and throw away the key. But if it turns out he did not do it. oopsie-daisy can just say "sorry" and let him go. and that's what gonna happen: more people come faster into prisons and that means you gotta get your good ol' bucks out because it'll cost ya. More than having a trial and then get him into prison. btw: i kinda digg the "cut the *** off" but `what about female sexual Molesters? there a LOT of not known cases of child abuse in sexual terms done by women. I read an interesting story once where the civilization had gotten to the point where killing someone for any crime was too horrible to think about.
Instead they killed there body and at the last moment of consciousness transferred them to a clone they made. Then they made them clean up there other dead body. This continued till it was agreed by a panel of impartial random people that he clearly showed remorse and would never do it again. Well was fun discussing crime/justice with y'all, but alas it's time for work. Later~
Asura.Rule said: Fairy.Spence said: I think we're just getting a bit 'soft' in general. The caning and what not is a bit much, but I think we need stronger deterrents. Asura.Allyson said: Fairy.Spence said: I think we're just getting a bit 'soft' in general. The caning and what not is a bit much, but I think we need stronger deterrents. Research has shown, over and over again, that harsher punishments make recidivism worse. Maybe the opinion we differ on isn't really the severity of punishment needed, but the role of the justice system. I believe the purpose of the prison system is to turn criminals into functioning members of society. A jail sentence does nothing if the person just commits another crime upon being released. You've only succeed in delaying the inevitable. Justice should be about transforming criminals into members of society, or removing them from it if the former isn't possible. Revenge is completely useless. Justice systems are one of the things that makes law and order better then the alternative. I wasn't thinking of severity in terms of sentence duration. I was thinking something like physical pain deterrent, I don't even know, I was just kinda musing trying to kill time at work. My biggest grief on this subject is just the process in which 'Justice' is carried out, you were right. There are farm too many catches and loop holes, but that goes back to the whole equal rights thing. I'm sure you can understand how it gets frustrating, there's no right way to go about it. Shiva.Weewoo said: Surprised we haven't capitalized on death with Blood Sport pay-per-view yet. Aren't we an opportunistic nation? Ever seen the film Gamer? Do Want. Shiva.Superdan said: Shiva.Weewoo said: Surprised we haven't capitalized on death with Blood Sport pay-per-view yet. Aren't we an opportunistic nation? Ever seen the film Gamer? Do Want. Pfft! Running man! Fairy.Spence said: Shiva.Superdan said: Shiva.Weewoo said: Surprised we haven't capitalized on death with Blood Sport pay-per-view yet. Aren't we an opportunistic nation? Ever seen the film Gamer? Do Want. Pfft! Running man! Fairy.Spence said: Shiva.Superdan said: Shiva.Weewoo said: Surprised we haven't capitalized on death with Blood Sport pay-per-view yet. Aren't we an opportunistic nation? Do Want. Ramuh.Dasva said: Fairy.Spence said: Shiva.Superdan said: Shiva.Weewoo said: Surprised we haven't capitalized on death with Blood Sport pay-per-view yet. Aren't we an opportunistic nation? Do Want. Running man was pretty sick too. The ice guy was awesome xD Asura.Allyson
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Fairy.Spence said: I wasn't thinking of severity in terms of sentence duration. I was thinking something like physical pain deterrent, I don't even know, I was just kinda musing trying to kill time at work. My biggest grief on this subject is just the process in which 'Justice' is carried out, you were right. There are farm too many catches and loop holes, but that goes back to the whole equal rights thing. I'm sure you can understand how it gets frustrating, there's no right way to go about it. lol, Yea. I think anyone reading this thread must be having a boring day at work. I think in the end pain is a deterrent in the same way that time served in prison is, they are both things people generally want to avoid. I would think it would be really unlikely that the change in style of deterrent would make the results any different. Frustration is a great thing though. A lot of people don't even care enough about the way things happen in this world to work themselves into frustration. Ultimately the debate boils down to the rights of the government vs. the rights of the individual, but I wish people would have that conversation more often. No one cares about this stuff anymore. D: I still think if you could make someone live thru the pain of many excruiating deaths without killing them it would be a pretty good deterrent. Or at least break them ;)
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Ramuh.Dasva said: I still think if you could make someone live thru the pain of many excruiating deaths without killing them it would be a pretty good deterrent. Or at least break them ;) Vis-à-vis 1984? I guess it worked out great for Big Brother, lol. Ramuh.Dasva said: I still think if you could make someone live thru the pain of many excruiating deaths without killing them it would be a pretty good deterrent. Or at least break them ;) Kudos for anyone who gets the reference. |
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