RDM Magnetic Or Ethereal?
RDM magnetic or ethereal?
Wouldn't be hard to test cast alot of stuff with as much conserve mp gear you can get without having the trait. The second it procs even once you proved it.
If you take 600 damage, ethereal gives you like 18 mp...
Sylph.Kozuki said:
If you take 600 damage, ethereal gives you like 18 mp...
Sylph.Kozuki said:
If you take 600 damage, ethereal gives you like 18 mp...
You know it stacks right? You don't need to take 600 damage in one shot, can take 50, then 50 and get MP return. It's an over time bonus not get-hit-get-all-mp-back-instantly.
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Wouldn't be hard to test cast alot of stuff with as much conserve mp gear you can get without having the trait. The second it procs even once you proved it.
hmm, might have misunderstood your post, because it almost sounded like you could use it in a precast set then swap it out before the spell goes off and have it process, lol.
evil evil double posting!
either way, magnetic is probably the best choice in your case (unless you NEED both ear slots during casting, think this is only really 'necessary' for tanking for enmity choices), just because it's pretty much guaranteed to save a certain amount mp over time, where you're not guaranteed to get decent mp over time with etherial unless you're playing sloppy.
either way, magnetic is probably the best choice in your case (unless you NEED both ear slots during casting, think this is only really 'necessary' for tanking for enmity choices), just because it's pretty much guaranteed to save a certain amount mp over time, where you're not guaranteed to get decent mp over time with etherial unless you're playing sloppy.
Wow, that'd be interesting to see if Conserve MP is calculated at the same time Fast Cast is. Then you'd pretty much always start your spells with Loquacious+Magnetic, and end with potency/macc. Dunno why they'd calculate Conserve MP that early, but could make for some interesting things. Could get away with casting a lot more spells starting with Goliard Body, and finishing with something more useful.
You'd probably start seeing lots of BLMs push Conserve MP gear at the start of their nukes, and MAB+INT at the end.
You'd probably start seeing lots of BLMs push Conserve MP gear at the start of their nukes, and MAB+INT at the end.
Asura.Deadwing said:
I would say magnetic, not only is the conserve mp useful for all casts, but its some of the only spell interruption rate for the ear slot. Helpful if you want to cap spell interruption reduction for utsu.
*more easily. if I remember right you can cap interruption rate w/o it.
Interesting though cause wiki didn't used to say that stuff about precasting so I might have to test it out. If so I might have to rewrite my precast set lol
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Well, BLM could get to get 60% Conserve MP trait with the right gear. Making the trait proc more often than not. If this was calculated pre-cast, you could expect to get at least 1/16th reduction from your AMII while still doing 2k+ damage D:
Ifrit.Darkanaseur said:
Sylph.Kozuki said:
If you take 600 damage, ethereal gives you like 18 mp...
You know it stacks right? You don't need to take 600 damage in one shot, can take 50, then 50 and get MP return. It's an over time bonus not get-hit-get-all-mp-back-instantly.
How much does the Conserve MP save you over time?
Neither of them are significant increases by any stretch of the imagination, but Ethereal gives you the MP on demand when you desperately need it at least.
Neither of them are significant increases by any stretch of the imagination, but Ethereal gives you the MP on demand when you desperately need it at least.
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
How much does the Conserve MP save you over time?
Each point to the trait giving +1% chance to activate. The job ability giving 25
So ~1.4% MP saved per cast, average? That's about 1.2 MP saved on average per 88 MP Cure IV. Neither option saves a lot of MP...
Both earrings aren't very good.
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As a RDM/NIN, neither earring offers anything you want. As others have already suggested, Hollow Earring is your earring if you're RDM main and solo a lot. Not sure how much damage it adds to enspells but it's definitely a lot more useful than the other two.
Sylph.Oddin said:
As a RDM/NIN, neither earring offers anything you want. As others have already suggested, Hollow Earring is your earring if you're RDM main and solo a lot. Not sure how much damage it adds to enspells but it's definitely a lot more useful than the other two.
says right on the earring, +3 damage, lol. I forget if you need to full time it for the damage to activate, but chances are that you do, there's really nothing better than suppa+hollow with a weapon like joyeusse any way. if you have any other melee DD jobs this is the best it gets other than DM earrings for TP (and multi-hit WSs dependent on other WS gear).
Idk about you but most of the time I sub nin for rdm soloing I'm not meleeing.
As far as if it needs to stay on... no no it doesn't. In fact I've read somewhere that it also seems to increase sambas too
As far as if it needs to stay on... no no it doesn't. In fact I've read somewhere that it also seems to increase sambas too
Thanks for all your info/advices, I think I'll go for the ethereal, on the basis of my other jobs, (SAM/THF/PLD/BLM)
When I do solo its normally in sky or sea, and I'll probably macro this in for an idle set.
When I do solo its normally in sky or sea, and I'll probably macro this in for an idle set.
I'd seriously consider hollow with sam/thf/pld. though if you play the traditional 'face tank' pld, etherial won't totally go to waste.
Magnetic. All earrings options are situationnal and ethereal is probably the most HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE choice you could think off. It's useful *when* taking damage and even then it gives a ***bonus. Magnetic doubles as hmp/maxMP/spell interruption. Pair it with loquacious for convert, use it in your 102% spell interruption and you hmp set. Conserve mp is a bonus that over time is probably going to beat damage>MP anyway. If you don't care about spell interruption that's fine, noone is perfect. I hope you don't carry merman/novia/MND2/pdt earrings then. Because I'm sure as hell that the bonus they give is worse than magnetic.
Spell Interruption gear generally isn't that useful until you can approach the cap. Why would you nuke in Magnetic over Moldy/Novia though <_>
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Spell Interruption gear generally isn't that useful until you can approach the cap. Why would you nuke in Magnetic over Moldy/Novia though <_>
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Spell Interruption gear generally isn't that useful until you can approach the cap. Why would you nuke in Magnetic over Moldy/Novia though <_>
Also supposedly Hollow works on sambas...
This is also very true lol, how did I miss that <_<
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
This is also very true lol, how did I miss that <_<
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