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 Carbuncle.Zanno
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-05-16 13:30:34
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Thats what everyone says anyway.

Had an ls party on birds and I went as nin just for fun, and parsed it.

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bobbys: WAR
Wesknight: SAM
Sesshoummaru: RNG
Zanno: NIN
Murr: SCH
Asayla: BRD

inb4 "the others must suck"

They all had avarage gear, and my nin doesnt have anything special either really
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By Sylph.Kozuki 2010-05-16 13:35:41
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NIN DD's perfectly fine on anything besides HNM/can't be meleed anyways.
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-05-16 13:40:40
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Let me guess the people who dodnt have nin 75 well geared most likely say that?

Nin can dd very well, comes close to mnk, sometimes even better than mnk. Depends on your gear. Blade Jin does rocks.
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2010-05-16 13:41:38
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How long was this parse? From the data it doesn't look very long. Only 2 Barrage? Only 20-10 WS?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-16 13:49:06
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inb4 "the others must suck"

It's not they must suck, it's they DO suck

Warrior: Raging rush - Average 559 damage

Samurai: GKT Gekko Average: 669 damage

Rng: It's a rng, not hard to outparse, and I'm pretty sure 1.2k is a low winder average anyways, but you'd have to double check w/ the rngs.

You going to claim these DDs don't suck? My ws average was higher than all except the rng when my sam was lv 74and i did a /anon party to get myself to 75.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2010-05-16 13:50:43
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I knew this would be perfect troll bait!
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-16 13:51:58
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Sylph.Kimble said:
I knew this would be perfect troll bait!
Troll bait? The original post is the troll, lol.
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By Leviathan.Optimis 2010-05-16 13:52:27
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yeah that is pretty low for a rng was in a pt yesterday and rng never did less then 1300 on his sidewinder. o and the pt was lv55
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-16 13:53:01
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Seraph.Rafik said:
Let me guess the people who dodnt have nin 75 well geared most likely say that?

Nin can dd very well, comes close to mnk, sometimes even better than mnk. Depends on your gear. Blade Jin does rocks.
Better than a gimp mnk, sure.
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2010-05-16 13:53:07
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Did they do more than 2 barrage the whole party?
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-05-16 13:54:11
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
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inb4 "the others must suck"

It's not they must suck, it's they DO suck

Warrior: Raging rush - Average 559 damage

Samurai: GKT Gekko Average: 669 damage

Rng: It's a rng, not hard to outparse, and I'm pretty sure 1.2k is a low winder average anyways, but you'd have to double check w/ the rngs.

You going to claim these DDs don't suck? My ws average was higher than all except the rng when my sam was lv 74and i did a /anon party to get myself to 75.

I dont say they dont suck, but even if they suck, my nin gear also suck, so it evens out. see?

I'm saying that we all had kind of mediocre gear, if you gonna bring a fully geared and merited sam/war/rng in the party you would also have to bring in a nin with ALOT better gear than I have for my nin.
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2010-05-16 13:55:29
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Zanno how long was this parse?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-16 13:55:38
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It doesn't even out. Because the difference between a top gear nin and a top gear [insert other DD here] isn't going to accurately be represented by the parse you showed us.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-05-16 13:55:52
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I don't think I've ever been outparsed by a nin when I play mnk.

and my mnk gear is incredibly average.
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-05-16 13:58:34
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Ragnarok.Blindphleb said:
Zanno how long was this parse?

idk, maybe 30 min or so. I got extreme lag when I run the parse.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-16 13:58:34
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I've been outparsed by 1 nin in my parsing history on mnk. This is when I was using a SH, pahluwan pants, and a brown belt.
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By Sylph.Spency 2010-05-16 13:59:04
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Relic NIN named Vestal or gtfo NIN!
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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-05-16 14:03:08
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Carbuncle.Zanno said:
Ragnarok.Blindphleb said:
Zanno how long was this parse?

idk, maybe 30 min or so. I got extreme lag when I run the parse.

Assuming zero haste on the SAM and a 450 delay GKT (and 6hit) it would take 15minutes to do 20 WS (if full time engaged).

So the parse would have been ~10minutes.
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2010-05-16 14:07:27
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with haste, 1 march, and 10% gear haste and 450 delay you have 5.0sec attack round

so for 94 hits it would take that sam 7.83min.

Congrats your nin beat an afk crappy geared sam.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-16 14:08:11
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he has misses filtered, hence their 100% hitrate. he swung more than that. I'd assume he had another 94 swings worth of misses.
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-05-16 14:09:50
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No relic Ninja named Asaru tyvm. I don't use that account on FFXIAH because I like to use this one. So since I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT lets begin

Metsu ws gear

Kikoku
Perdu blade
Usukane somen
K.Osode
B.Haidates
Usukane feet
ninja tekko+1
the str and enmity+1 back piece forgot the name
Katana torque
Sniper's ring+1
Raja's Ring
some Triumph earring+1 and something else i forget
with fire bomblet

and my metsus outside of HNM but counting dynamis were always 1k+. best in meripo was a 1847 and best in dynamis was 1268 (northlands, not lol city)

vs HNM like cerb it was like 849-1010 and the only reason i was nin/war on cerb was because we had 2 plds already and I came as nin because it was last minute blah blah blah I didn't change to sam etc.
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-05-16 14:10:30
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also not saying that zannos nin is epic. he doesnt own half of what my Asaru did. Also no Metsu.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-16 14:15:46
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Weird metsu build
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-05-16 14:20:50
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Weird metsu build

Dex.

Primary mod.

Also we are talking from memory from a few months ago. I quit and I'm never coming back to this game lol. Deactivated or gave away all my chars. Also in merits Asaru had full str and katana merits.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2010-05-16 14:21:39
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Carbuncle.Zanno said:
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Lord Sesshoumaru!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-16 14:22:49
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Bahamut.Kaioshin said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Weird metsu build

Dex.

Primary mod.

Also we are talking from memory from a few months ago. I quit and I'm never coming back to this game lol. Deactivated or gave away all my chars. Also in merits Asaru had full str and katana merits.
I'm aware of the dex mod. That's not what I was commenting on, really.
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2010-05-16 14:29:27
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Who cares about metsu builds at this point.

Fail parse is still fail parse. I bet Zanno could have used h2h and beat these "DD".
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-05-16 14:30:20
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Bahamut.Kaioshin said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Weird metsu build
Dex. Primary mod. Also we are talking from memory from a few months ago. I quit and I'm never coming back to this game lol. Deactivated or gave away all my chars. Also in merits Asaru had full str and katana merits.
I'm aware of the dex mod. That's not what I was commenting on, really.

Enlighten me then because its probably something I forgot when I was trying ot remember this build lol. Also the only reason I used Osode on body during the ws over my Hauby+1 was because of the dex mod and that my acc was capped.
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By Diabolos.Anthaio 2010-05-16 14:33:29
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I think I have an alright ninja, still working on it, and it definately could use alot more eg gear. Love my ninja dearly, but I have to agree that NIN DD does suck compared to others. It wasn't until I started changing foods that I noticed a nice increase in damage. I went from using Sole Sushi +1, to Carbonara +1, even yellow curry, or curry buns, and noticed a nice damage increase even with Blade: Ku, however, I also lacked a medium amount of accuracy I'd usually get from the sushi. If you already have the accuracy going on, switching to those foods is great (and for lower lvl mobs.) I still only use sole sushi +1 in a mamool ja sp merit party, otherwise I'll miss a lot.

FOV Cape Terrigan page 4 or 5 makes for a nice solo/duo testing grounds. I wanna be parsed and able to parse. Can someone send me a private msg on what to use?


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