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Best NIN Sets
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2011-01-29 01:10:42
Excuses for sucking.
Leviathan.Niniann
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-01-29 01:12:08
Unicorn.Tarowyn said: Isn't the issue that a lot of TP moves are too fast to able to macro it in time unless you're just oneventing it, lol.
If your WHMs don't suck they should be keeping cureskin on you fulltime anyway, so those particular TP moves shouldn't really be hurting you. :/
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By Unicorn.Tarowyn 2011-01-29 01:14:08
If that's the case, then your whole rant about a MDT macro is moot anyways, lol. And I'm not really gonna comment on full time cureskin, sounds like a waste of mp to me.
Leviathan.Niniann
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-01-29 01:15:10
Unicorn.Tarowyn said: If that's the case, then your whole rant about a MDT macro is moot anyways, lol. And I'm not really gonna comment on full time cureskin, sounds like a waste of mp to me.
A lot of the spells really hurt. Sure cureskin helps.
Also what is this about wasting MP in Abyssea....?
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Unicorn.Tarowyn
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By Unicorn.Tarowyn 2011-01-29 01:17:02
The whole thing was about TP moves not spells.
And if you cure V unhurt people every 30 sece then yes, you will still burn through all your mp unless you have like, full time refresh 2/ballad/works
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Leviathan.Niniann
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-01-29 01:19:31
Unicorn.Tarowyn said: The whole thing was about TP moves not spells.
And if you cure V unhurt people every 30 sece then yes, you will still burn through all your mp unless you have like, full time refresh 2/ballad/works
No, actually. I do this all the time and I only have x3 Refresh atmas and Sublimation. You don't need refresh2, ballad, or the works.
Hell, for most things you don't even need more than 2 Atmas. Granted I idle in +3 Refresh, but still.
Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-01-29 01:22:04
Unicorn.Tarowyn said: The whole thing was about TP moves not spells,
name one in the entire goddamn game in 2011 that'll one-shot you if you aren't quick enough with a -mdt macro
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Ramuh.Lorzy
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-01-29 01:23:44
af3+2 legs help too
edit: whm af3 that is
Leviathan.Niniann
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-01-29 01:24:19
Ramuh.Lorzy said: af3+2 legs help too
edit: whm af3 that is
Oya. Good catch.
By Serj 2011-01-29 01:27:09
Pandemonium.Ironguy said: Unicorn.Tarowyn said: The whole thing was about TP moves not spells,
name one in the entire goddamn game in 2011 that'll one-shot you if you aren't quick enough with a -mdt macro
Indrik if you aren't a nin and are at the perfect amount of dmg from his lance that it would deal in the general area of your max hp! HA! What did I win? Or did that require too much of the stars aligning?
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-01-29 01:28:17
Serj said: Pandemonium.Ironguy said: Unicorn.Tarowyn said: The whole thing was about TP moves not spells,
name one in the entire goddamn game in 2011 that'll one-shot you if you aren't quick enough with a -mdt macro
Indrik if you aren't a nin and are at the perfect amount of dmg from his lance that it would deal in the general area of your max hp! HA! What did I win? Or did that require too much of the stars aligning?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-01-29 01:29:58
What the *** is this ***? I'd assumed MDT/PDT sets were common knowledge, just not employed by most because of laziness/cheapness/stupidity/cockbaggery/doucheshittery. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.
Say your max HP is 2700.
Subject Bitterpiss (henceforth referred to as "Q") has a magical TP move that deals roughly 3,000 damage because he sucks and is a cheating *** licking scoundrel.
The difference between having 50% MDT (Shell V+26%~ in gear, or Shellra V+23%~ in gear) is 1,500 damage that you would be safe from on top of stoneskin or whatever other buffs/MDB you might have on you at the time. Life and death, mother ***.
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Ramuh.Lorzy
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-01-29 01:30:23
Pandemonium.Ironguy said: Unicorn.Tarowyn said: The whole thing was about TP moves not spells,
name one in the entire goddamn game in 2011 that'll one-shot you if you aren't quick enough with a -mdt macro
disgorge could probably oneshot me with mdt gear on D:
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Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-01-29 01:30:52
Serj said: Indrik if you aren't a nin and are at the perfect amount of dmg from his lance that it would deal in the general area of your max hp! HA! What did I win? Or did that require too much of the stars aligning?
he was hitting me for +3.2k even in my perfect -magic reduction set on samurai, so yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
migawari ahoy, much in the same sense of impalement and ursurper
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By Serj 2011-01-29 01:33:49
Pandemonium.Ironguy said: Serj said: Indrik if you aren't a nin and are at the perfect amount of dmg from his lance that it would deal in the general area of your max hp! HA! What did I win? Or did that require too much of the stars aligning?
he was hitting me for +3.2k even in my perfect -magic reduction set on samurai, so yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
migawari ahoy, much in the same sense of impalement and ursurper
I was in a PUG doing the tiger nm and we decided to try Indrik. I think he topped out hitting people for 7-9k dmg. AoA zombie method suuuuuuuuuuuucks. With my friends though, he stays around 1-3k dmg, and I have 3.4-4+k hp, so I'm good =D Whms being on the ball helps a ton.
Leviathan.Niniann
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-01-29 01:35:22
Ramuh.Lorzy said: Pandemonium.Ironguy said: Unicorn.Tarowyn said: The whole thing was about TP moves not spells,
name one in the entire goddamn game in 2011 that'll one-shot you if you aren't quick enough with a -mdt macro
disgorge could probably oneshot me with mdt gear on D:
I've seen Gorge one-shot too, with meritted Shellra V up, and not sure if MDT gear was on or not. It was pretty random/unlucky and terribad.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-01-29 01:35:35
Jesus ***, how long was it up for Lance to hit 9k?
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By Unicorn.Tarowyn 2011-01-29 01:37:53
Pandemonium.Ironguy said: Unicorn.Tarowyn said: The whole thing was about TP moves not spells,
name one in the entire goddamn game in 2011 that'll one-shot you if you aren't quick enough with a -mdt macro The question wasn't about one shotting, the whole thing was a guy said he wore shadow ring full time for magic stuff, people said make a macro, someone else said he's talking about tp moves. Not like shadow ring's likely to save you unless you're stupid, it's just more of a nice thing to have which can take pressure off healers
By Serj 2011-01-29 01:38:03
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Jesus ***, how long was it up for Lance to hit 9k?
It was doing 2-3k until the tank died and it started running after each person who kept running. I think about 5-10 mins after we initially wiped and it was doing 9k. Was pretty fun, actually, in a warped sense.
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By Unicorn.Tarowyn 2011-01-29 01:39:07
Leviathan.Niniann said: Ramuh.Lorzy said: Pandemonium.Ironguy said: Unicorn.Tarowyn said: The whole thing was about TP moves not spells,
name one in the entire goddamn game in 2011 that'll one-shot you if you aren't quick enough with a -mdt macro
disgorge could probably oneshot me with mdt gear on D:
I've seen Gorge one-shot too, with meritted Shellra V up, and not sure if MDT gear was on or not. It was pretty random/unlucky and terribad. Funny, I was just fighting glvaoid right now, I swear gorge/disgorge aren't affected by well MDB at least, the only dmg reduction I normally carry all the time is torque which is all dmg so I dunno, it's weird, lol.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-01-29 01:42:30
Unicorn.Tarowyn said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Ramuh.Lorzy said: Pandemonium.Ironguy said: Unicorn.Tarowyn said: The whole thing was about TP moves not spells,
name one in the entire goddamn game in 2011 that'll one-shot you if you aren't quick enough with a -mdt macro
disgorge could probably oneshot me with mdt gear on D:
I've seen Gorge one-shot too, with meritted Shellra V up, and not sure if MDT gear was on or not. It was pretty random/unlucky and terribad. Funny, I was just fighting glvaoid right now, I swear gorge/disgorge aren't affected by well MDB at least, the only dmg reduction I normally carry all the time is torque which is all dmg so I dunno, it's weird, lol.
i'd say it's probably hard to tell since the damage varies. the tank we had has around 4k hp (and probably more from hp atmas), no mdt gear, still occasionally got oneshotted by disgorge with merited shellra v.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-29 01:45:21
I've been one shotted by inferno by brulo multiple times... but I is only taru.
Funny thing is the one time it didn't one shot me was the time it would've done the most but I had earthen armor up so it only did around 2500... granted I didn't turn fast enough and a triple attack proc on both my weapons got me to finish myself off on his spikes :(. Goddamn lack of phalanx
Leviathan.Niniann
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-01-29 01:47:43
Bahamut.Dasva said: I've been one shotted by inferno by brulo multiple times... but I is only taru.
Funny thing is the one time it didn't one shot me was the time it would've done the most but I had earthen armor up so it only did around 2500... granted I didn't turn fast enough and a triple attack proc on both my weapons got me to finish myself off on his spikes :(. Goddamn lack of phalanx
I chuckled.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-01-29 01:51:23
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Jesus ***, how long was it up for Lance to hit 9k?
what exactly causes lance to get that high?
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-29 01:54:00
Leviathan.Niniann said: Bahamut.Dasva said: I've been one shotted by inferno by brulo multiple times... but I is only taru.
Funny thing is the one time it didn't one shot me was the time it would've done the most but I had earthen armor up so it only did around 2500... granted I didn't turn fast enough and a triple attack proc on both my weapons got me to finish myself off on his spikes :(. Goddamn lack of phalanx I chuckled. ***hurts. Was doing like 70ish a hit at that point... didn't help that my support was in range too lol. The worst part is after a few wipes and 1 time it just depopping on pull I finally got the atma... and it turns out that it didn't do what it sounded like it did. So it went from being potentially awesome to pretty sucky
By Serj 2011-01-29 01:58:37
Ramuh.Lorzy said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Jesus ***, how long was it up for Lance to hit 9k?
what exactly causes lance to get that high?
It's healing move makes lance stronger. When I normally fight it, it only heals maybe 5 times at most. No idea how many times it used it when we were getting hit for 9k lol.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-01-29 02:00:30
Serj said: Ramuh.Lorzy said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Jesus ***, how long was it up for Lance to hit 9k?
what exactly causes lance to get that high?
It's healing move makes lance stronger. When I normally fight it, it only heals maybe 5 times at most. No idea how many times it used it when we were getting hit for 9k lol.
oh, i thought it reset after each lance.
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By Unicorn.Tarowyn 2011-01-29 02:17:31
Ramuh.Lorzy said: Unicorn.Tarowyn said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Ramuh.Lorzy said: Pandemonium.Ironguy said: Unicorn.Tarowyn said: The whole thing was about TP moves not spells,
name one in the entire goddamn game in 2011 that'll one-shot you if you aren't quick enough with a -mdt macro
disgorge could probably oneshot me with mdt gear on D:
I've seen Gorge one-shot too, with meritted Shellra V up, and not sure if MDT gear was on or not. It was pretty random/unlucky and terribad. Funny, I was just fighting glvaoid right now, I swear gorge/disgorge aren't affected by well MDB at least, the only dmg reduction I normally carry all the time is torque which is all dmg so I dunno, it's weird, lol.
i'd say it's probably hard to tell since the damage varies. the tank we had has around 4k hp (and probably more from hp atmas), no mdt gear, still occasionally got oneshotted by disgorge with merited shellra v. Gorge dmg varies a lot, but disgorge seems to land on nice even numbers a lot.
Semi off topic but I'm working on a theory that gorge dmg is boosted by dmg absorbed during BW and not disgorge. I hope to not collect too much data on it though....
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By Cerberus.Nequito 2011-01-29 02:26:13
TP
Edit: Working on Kannagi
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By Serj 2011-01-29 02:36:40
Cerberus.Nequito said: TP
Edit: Working on Kannagi
Iga earring is garbage. If you aren't hitting the delay reduction cap (in which case I have no idea what to take in and out) use suppanomimi.
I don't have blade: hi yet, but i was wondering for the best tp setup and the best jin setup possible. And wondering about possible improvements to my current gear outside of af3+2 and blade: hi because im working on them both.
TP:
WS:
Also if someone could post the best ninjutsu set possible that would be awesome! having a problem figuring out the best set for enfeebles.
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