Antea: RDM's 2nd Joytoy

Language: JP EN DE FR
2010-09-08
New Items
users online
Forum » FFXI » Jobs » Red Mage » Antea: RDM's 2nd joytoy
Antea: RDM's 2nd joytoy
First Page 2
 Odin.Kalico
Offline
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
user: Panthra
Posts: 714
By Odin.Kalico 2010-03-26 13:48:58
Link | Quote | Reply
 
[Main] All Races
DPS: 6.05 DMG:23 Delay:228
LV 75 RDM PLD BLU
Augment: Damage +17 Delay +36 (DMG 40, Delay 264 )
Occasionally attacks twice

Trial of the Magians Sword Path:150, 151, 152, 158, 159, 160


might replace justice depending on proc rate
Antea/joytoy + teir1 enspell = crazy
[+]
 Valefor.Slipispsycho
Offline
Server: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 14155
By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2010-03-26 13:51:19
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I might actually go do this.. I don't even have joytoy yet =/ I'm not part of a huge LS, infact, the only people that are really ever in my LS is me, a friend with a few jobs at 75 and sometimes my wife who is currently 33BLM.

I'm gonna finish up DNC and merits then go solo/duo my joytoy.
 Bahamut.Raenryong
Offline
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: RaenRyong
Posts: 4554
By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-03-26 13:58:11
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Quote:
RDM's 2nd joytoy

Justice Sword?
[+]
 Siren.Kuz
Offline
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
user: RobKuz
Posts: 1936
By Siren.Kuz 2010-03-26 14:33:11
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Quote:
RDM's 2nd joytoy

Justice Sword?
[+]
 Phoenix.Mogue
Offline
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
user: Mogue
Posts: 605
By Phoenix.Mogue 2010-03-26 14:40:59
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Justice Sword.
[+]
 Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha
Offline
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
user: Rumaha
Posts: 3087
By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2010-03-26 14:43:27
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Siren.Kuz said:
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Quote:
RDM's 2nd joytoy

Justice Sword?
[+]
 Fenrir.Nightfyre
Offline
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
user: Nightfyre
Posts: 11680
By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-03-26 14:44:37
Link | Quote | Reply
 
For great Justice (Sword)!
[+]
 Siren.Enternius
Offline
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
user: Enternius
Posts: 10387
By Siren.Enternius 2010-03-26 14:52:44
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Justice Sword >.>
[+]
 Cerberus.Mindi
Offline
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: Mindi
Posts: 602
By Cerberus.Mindi 2010-03-26 15:01:44
Link | Quote | Reply
 
he said replace justice
[+]
 Bahamut.Raenryong
Offline
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: RaenRyong
Posts: 4554
By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-03-26 15:03:52
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Oh yeah, it's much more convenient. This is RDM's third joytoy though!
[+]
 Siren.Enternius
Offline
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
user: Enternius
Posts: 10387
By Siren.Enternius 2010-03-26 15:04:52
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I doubt Antea will have a 55% proc rate AND stack with other Double Attacks for 6 hits per round with Joyeuse/Justice.
[+]
 Remora.Lynnminmay
Offline
Server: Remora
Game: FFXI
user: pchan
Posts: 8
By Remora.Lynnminmay 2010-03-27 09:41:00
Link | Quote | Reply
 
staff with cure potency +15% is what rdm get this update.
[+]
 Ramuh.Haseyo
Offline
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
user: Haseyo
Posts: 22442
By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-03-27 09:50:19
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Well with this you won't need stones for the DA and can have an ammo slot. Not sure how common a Justice Sword is since while I was playing, I've never seen one. Ever.
 Kujata.Nours
Offline
Server: Kujata
Game: FFXI
user: sruon
Posts: 34
By Kujata.Nours 2010-03-27 09:59:56
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
Well with this you won't need stones for the DA and can have an ammo slot. Not sure how common a Justice Sword is since while I was playing, I've never seen one. Ever.

100% drop out of the easiest jailer to pop? idk.
 Ramuh.Haseyo
Offline
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
user: Haseyo
Posts: 22442
By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-03-27 10:06:49
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Still never saw one.
 Ramuh.Yimoa
Offline
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
user: Yimoa
Posts: 32
By Ramuh.Yimoa 2010-03-27 10:21:24
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Mighty fine woosh you got there haseyo.
 Ramuh.Haseyo
Offline
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
user: Haseyo
Posts: 22442
By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-03-27 10:23:45
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I understand what he was saying, I just never saw one myself. What part of that did you fail to realize? lol

It brings up the point that people don't like to have to use stones in the ammo slot. Thus people would be more inclined to use this new sword instead, reguardless if the Justice Sword's stats are better.
[+]
 Bahamut.Bojack
Offline
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: Bojack316
Posts: 2076
By Bahamut.Bojack 2010-03-27 10:59:02
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I have a feeling all these OAT weapons will be about 20% proc rate, Maybe 25%.
 Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra
Offline
Server: Midgardsormr
Game: FFXI
user: Sect
Posts: 3723
By Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra 2010-03-27 11:14:41
Link | Quote | Reply
 
OAT?

And has the DA antea even been made yet?
 Bahamut.Bojack
Offline
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: Bojack316
Posts: 2076
By Bahamut.Bojack 2010-03-27 11:16:06
Link | Quote | Reply
 
OAT = occasionally attacks twice
 Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind
Offline
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 263
By Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind 2010-03-27 11:21:37
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Imo i think these all these new "Jailor" weapons suck, if your going to get a new aug weapon get something that benefits you, In the end i know most of yall are gonna be redoing this because of the proc rate and delay on these weapons, i have a Joyeuse so i see no point in getting this, im going for high dmg mainly GA, polearm, and scythe. And for my alternate route for Cor the gun with MAB.
 Unicorn.Ixn
Offline
Server: Unicorn
Game: FFXI
user: unknown
Posts: 91
By Unicorn.Ixn 2010-03-27 12:07:24
Link | Quote | Reply
 
semi-derail:
Antea: Basicly BLU's only joytoy :o

I still do like the +7str on the Justice Sword >.>
Too bad Blu can't equip it ;x
Though it maybe removing a ammo slot for virtue stones xD
 Leviathan.Thornyy
Offline
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
user: Eriuddo
Posts: 145
By Leviathan.Thornyy 2010-03-29 12:30:31
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Siren.Enternius said:
I doubt Antea will have a 55% proc rate AND stack with other Double Attacks for 6 hits per round with Joyeuse/Justice.
Still an idiot, good to see. First off, you can't prove any of the weapons are anything besides 50% with current sample sizes(look into standard deviation and look at whichever sample you're citing to say it's 55% then think for a second). Second, jailer weapons proc stacks with DA in the sense that both can proc on the same swing.. you can't have a DA proc on a jailer weapon's additional swing. IE:

Justice sword possibilities
No DA proc, No Justice Proc - 1 hit
DA proc, No Justice Proc - 2 hits
Justice proc, no DA proc - 2 hits
Justice Proc, DA Proc - 3 hits

you don't get an additional check on the justice proc..
[+]
 Unicorn.Moldtech
Offline
Server: Unicorn
Game: FFXI
user: Moldtech
Posts: 611
By Unicorn.Moldtech 2010-03-29 12:43:41
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I thought Joyeuse proc did NOT stack with double attack
 Quetzalcoatl.Zeldageek
Offline
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
user: zeldageek
Posts: 193
By Quetzalcoatl.Zeldageek 2010-03-29 12:44:42
Link | Quote | Reply
 
DA procs first, and you can have the Justice proc on both swings of the DA, so the justice can swing 4 times ihn one round.
[+]
 Fenrir.Nightfyre
Offline
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
user: Nightfyre
Posts: 11680
By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-03-29 12:45:16
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Joyeuse doesn't, virtue weapons (including Justice) do.
[+]
 Remora.Eriuddo
Offline
Server: Remora
Game: FFXI
user: Eriuddo
Posts: 98
By Remora.Eriuddo 2010-03-30 08:52:23
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Quetzalcoatl.Zeldageek said:
DA procs first, and you can have the Justice proc on both swings of the DA, so the justice can swing 4 times ihn one round.
It can't, common misconception.

Unlike Joyeuse, both DA and justice proc can happen on the same swing, but you can't get 4 swings out of it.
[+]
 Sylph.Sindri
Offline
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
user: Sindri
Posts: 1303
By Sylph.Sindri 2010-03-30 09:14:35
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Almost on the final trial of Antea, I have a few more clusters left to kill. Because of the delay difference, and the fact that it's possible to cap Atonement dmg without a high base DMG sword, and RDM ws are GENERALLY pretty tame, I think joytoy would still be your best bet, however this looks like one hell of an offhand for BLU
 Lakshmi.Hypnotizd
Offline
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
user: hypnotizd
Posts: 1685
By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2010-03-30 09:15:24
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Remora.Eriuddo said:
Quetzalcoatl.Zeldageek said:
DA procs first, and you can have the Justice proc on both swings of the DA, so the justice can swing 4 times ihn one round.
It can't, common misconception.

Unlike Joyeuse, both DA and justice proc can happen on the same swing, but you can't get 4 swings out of it.
It can swing 4 times. Unless it is vastly different that temperance axe. I've spent countless hours as BST/NIN with Man/Temp and I've seen my Temp Axe swing 4 times a number of times. It is rare, but it does happen.
First Page 2
Log in to post.