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By Alexander.Xgalahadx 2010-03-14 05:28:26
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I wanted to know if war was a decent dd for hnms like fafhogg, aspid, and KB? And if they are what would be the best sub /sam to stop the tp given or /thf for sata?

I atm have no hnm exp out of Znm and understand that situational stuff is situational but with proper gears could a war hold his own against a sam/thf or at least contend?

Thank you for those who respond ^^
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By Kujata.Argettio 2010-03-14 06:36:01
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WAR is a solid DD where ever it goes. You would /SAM most of the time (DI being the main exception), although you might get asked to /NIN by some LS.

A good PLD shouldn't need TA any more, soonly reason to sub THF is for SA to improve your WS numbers (accuracy). SA on any Wyrm is a BAD idea as you are likely to eat a Flail.

Generally speaking WAR (along with SAM) are the 2 main general purpose DDs these days.
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By Siren.Talonn 2010-03-14 07:40:52
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Ya WAR is good for some HNM as argettio mentioned.

WAR/thf rips Dark Ixion apart (tp on other mobs)
WAR/sam or /nin can be SC partner at Faf/nid
WAR for adds at Adaman
WAR for NQ behe....

I'm sure you can find some more uses past that ^^
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By Fairy.Lilman 2010-03-14 08:42:27
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WAR/SAM and also WAR/NIN tears Dark Ixion apart as well, and if the person playing is smart enough(Read: Has common sense) can actually do a decent job tanking it when they are /nin.
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By Alexander.Xgalahadx 2010-03-14 10:49:13
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Cool thank you guys ^^
I've been in doubt of my choice of a dd job for awhile cause of all the "my sam pwns all with its suppa fast tp" talk but its good to know i will be able to pwn to...
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By Pandemonium.Naten 2010-03-14 11:16:07
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Good WAR can tank Fafhogg with /NIN, KB can DD but you run risk of pulling hate and Meteor going off so get hermes sandels and sub NIN and dont wear dusk hands, E hands/Hachi kote are good. Aspid your not gonna crack through his defense you would only be killing adds or SCing it for Ice MB.

And DO NOT USE DUAL WIELD, GA will outparse ME/Ridill.
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By Pandemonium.Yov 2010-03-14 11:33:19
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Pandemonium.Naten said:
And DO NOT USE DUAL WIELD, GA will outparse ME/Ridill.

Maybe this could happen in a merit pt but I guess you obviously used to DUAL WIELD HNMS NATEN.
Xgala your weapon choise on HNM can only be GAxe as war the 99.9% of times let's say?



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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-03-14 14:59:20
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Alexander.Xgalahadx said:
I wanted to know if war was a decent dd for hnms like fafhogg, aspid, and KB? And if they are what would be the best sub /sam to stop the tp given or /thf for sata?

I atm have no hnm exp out of Znm and understand that situational stuff is situational but with proper gears could a war hold his own against a sam/thf or at least contend?

Thank you for those who respond ^^


looking at your profile, by the time you get your character to HNMLS level, the level cap raises will have happened and fafhogg, aspid, KB, etc. likely won't qualify as legitimate HNMs anymore. Also, it's very unlikely you'll get into a HNMLS without levelling a mage/support job.

That being said, SAM/WAR and WAR/SAM are neck and neck on nearly everything.
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By Alexander.Xgalahadx 2010-03-14 15:06:36
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
looking at your profile, by the time you get your character to HNMLS level, the level cap raises will have happened and fafhogg, aspid, KB likely won't qualify as legitimate HNMs anymore. Also, it's very unlikely you'll get into a HNMLS without levelling a mage/support job. That being said, SAM/WAR and WAR/SAM are neck and neck on nearly everything.

Yes i understand that i have quite a bit of work after i finish war. I plan on working on brd that would put me @ dd/tank/support and even if they raise the lvl cap by the time i reach my goal w/e i'll just take them to 99 and apply. :D

edit" I checked you're profile it seems we had the same idea war/pld/brd lol
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-03-14 15:10:37
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Nice, we will have levelled the exact same jobs in the exact same order, lol

only problem is, there's no point on speculating on the top dd @ 75, when, post level cap, PUP could be top dd for all we know. There's really no way to predict it. Still, I'll join you in hoping WAR stays on top.

edit: indeed we did, lol
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By Alexander.Xgalahadx 2010-03-14 15:12:53
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If pup takes the leed i will go emo T.T
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By Leuclaront 2010-03-14 15:15:03
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in alexander i would say the 2 big HNMs are icalimed and encores and neither are easy to get into iclaimed mostly BLM burns all HNM's now and encores is very picky on there players. a good beggining HNM would be awakeve but i belive they are only taking players that are playing on PC and there not that great but its some form of HNM
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By Alexander.Xgalahadx 2010-03-14 15:16:39
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Leuclaront said:
in alexander i would say the 2 big HNMs are icalimed and encores and neither are easy to get into iclaimed mostly BLM burns all HNM's now and encores is very picky on there players. a good beggining HNM would be awakeve but i belive they are only taking players that are playing on PC and there not that great but its some form of HNM
well atm i do dyna/limbus with encores so if i joined claimed it would be very awkward...
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By Socomalpha 2010-03-14 15:39:23
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Pandemonium.Naten said:
E hands/Hachi kote are good.

Um? I wasn't aware WAR could wear Hachi Kote. I must run out and get a pair.
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By Unicorn.Boric 2010-03-14 15:55:14
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warrior sucks for all events
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By Alexander.Xgalahadx 2010-03-14 15:57:42
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Unicorn.Boric said:
warrior sucks for all events

grats on the super hawt war btw
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By Carbuncle.Professorchaos 2010-03-14 17:35:11
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Socomalpha said:
Pandemonium.Naten said:
E hands/Hachi kote are good.

Um? I wasn't aware WAR could wear Hachi Kote. I must run out and get a pair.

Hachiryu kote, not Hachiman kote.

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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-03-14 17:57:02
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Alexander.Xgalahadx said:
grats on the super hawt war btw

It needs a Rose Strap... NQ Hauby + Rose Strap > Armadaberk + Pole Grip with the setup above.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-03-14 17:58:52
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Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Alexander.Xgalahadx said:
grats on the super hawt war btw

It needs a Rose Strap... NQ Hauby Rose Strap > Armadaberk Pole Grip with the setup above.


but he's subbing nin right now...

dosen't he have enough sTP for a 7-hit with /nin?

rose strap won't get him a six unless he's /sam
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By Phoenix.Airbag 2010-03-14 18:02:08
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Alexander.Xgalahadx said:
grats on the super hawt war btw

It needs a Rose Strap... NQ Hauby Rose Strap > Armadaberk Pole Grip with the setup above.


but he's subbing nin right now...

dosen't he have enough sTP for a 7-hit with /nin?

rose strap won't get him a six unless he's /sam

Hes also obv tping in 7% slow and movement speed LOLOL
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-03-14 18:13:28
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Bravura is 8hit when /nin iirc.

EDIT: Just double-checked. 8hit /nin with Rajas+Brutal (unless you DA RR/KJ), 7hit /nin with Rajas+Brutal+Rose Strap.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-03-14 18:17:52
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Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Bravura is 8hit when /nin iirc.

EDIT: Just double-checked. 8hit /nin with Rajas Brutal (unless you DA RR/KJ), 7hit /nin with Rajas Brutal Rose Strap.


You're right lol

just checked as well

i completely forgot to take the lower delay on relic into account ><
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