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Final Fantasy XI: Top Five Jobs (Ruaumoko )
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By SimonSes 2021-10-16 10:11:10
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Fenrir.Melphina said: »
The thing about dancer is that most of your support routine is built directly into your dps routine. Box step and feather step are your biggest abilities that increase party damage, and in addition to benefiting you as well as the party they also generate you finishing moves which you can channel into even more damage via flourishes.

For the first rotation only. After you do 2x Presto Box step and 2x Presto Feather step, you only lose DPS when you try refreshing them, because you not adding more def down or critical hit rate and get only 1FM per step when they are capped at 10. So you need to make Presto with other steps to gain FMs and effects of other steps usually don't benefit you or even group at all and you lose even more dps to refresh box and feather steps to keep them on.
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2021-10-16 10:12:08
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With presto you can cap box step in closer to 10 seconds, and I wouldn't say dancer is terrible at trash mobs either. It spams weaponskills just as well as any of the other dd jobs, and rudra's storm is a good weaponskill. A good dancer will just activate sabre dance against trash and limit their use of steps; primarily only using them at the very end of a mobs HP bar so they can use reverse flourish more often. A mythic dancer spamming pyrrhic kleos or an empyrean dancer spamming rudra's will both wind up on similar footing as any other DD when you're farming trash mobs. They even have aeolian edge if you're running with a cleave cleave strategy. A well geared dancer can put up some impressive numbers.

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For the first rotation only. After you do 2x Presto Box step and 2x Presto Feather step, you only lose DPS when you try refreshing them, because you not adding more def down or critical hit rate and get only 1FM per step when they are capped at 10. So you need to make Presto with other steps to gain FMs and effects of other steps usually don't benefit you or even group at all and you lose even more dps to refresh box and feather steps to keep them on.


I generally find it more effective to just do the first rotation and wait for the effect to wear 2 minutes later before reapplying it rather than trying to maintain the debuff fulltime. You only miss out on a few seconds of max step potency and you get much more effecient finishing move generation. I rarely have issues maintaining finishing moves that way, especially if I'm using terpsi. Its always worked for me.
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By SimonSes 2021-10-16 10:13:52
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Solonuke said: »
DNC is pretty limited in the SC department, restricted to basically only darkness skillchains whereas THF has access to one additional fusion weaponskill.

Yep and how they fixed this? Giving DNC a weapon only obtainable from Bonanza. Idź się jebać pierdolone SE
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By SimonSes 2021-10-16 10:18:46
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With presto you can cap box step in closer to 10 seconds, and I wouldn't say dancer is terrible at trash mobs either. It spams weaponskills just as well as any of the other dd jobs, and rudra's storm is a good weaponskill. A good dancer will just activate sabre dance against trash and limit their use of steps; primarily only using them at the very end of a mobs HP bar so they can use reverse flourish more often. A mythic dancer spamming pyrrhic kleos or an empyrean dancer spamming rudra's will both wind up on similar footing as any other DD when you're farming trash mobs. They even have aeolian edge if you're running with a cleave cleave strategy. A well geared dancer can put up some impressive numbers.

The problem is you are limited to only piercing, unless you won Bonanza and you are not NIN main. You will also have problem to reach full potential of PDL+ on trash mobs like Shaol C, if you dont use box step and other def down/attack up effects. Limiting builds like mythic spamming Pyrrhic (this build has over 40% PDL to reach full potential) by a huge margin.
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2021-10-16 10:26:39
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Segment farming in Sheol C is a special case and you know it. It's not a fair comparison to throw out the argument that dancer is less than ideal farming segments when there are so many other events in the game where the sheol specific weakness mechanics don't apply. Any job that can only use one form of damage is hamstringed in sheol; monk in particular suffers the same problem. And it's true that monk and dancer are both less ideal dd's to farm segments with than warrior or samurai or even thief for that very reason, and that's perfectly fine. Any job that can use multiple weapon types has an inherent advantage over ones who don't in sheol C. That's just how the event was designed. It doesn't have much bearing outside sheol though.
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By SimonSes 2021-10-16 10:34:09
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Fenrir.Melphina said: »
Segment farming in Sheol C is a special case and you know it. It's not a fair comparison to throw out the argument that dancer is less than ideal farming segments when there are so many other events in the game where the sheol specific weakness mechanics don't apply. Any job that can only use one form of damage is hamstringed in sheol; monk in particular suffers the same problem. That doesn't have much bearing on the job outside sheol though. Any job that can use multiple weapon types has an inherent advantage over ones who don't in sheol C. That's just how the event was designed.

You addressed weapon type restriction, but you haven't addressed more general low attack restriction. DNC lacks attacks on non debuffed trash mobs like those in Sheol C (weapon type issue asside) or Dynamis D (not sure where else you have relevant trash mobs). Mythic spamming Pyrrhic is only an option when you can cap attack with 40%+ PDL from Gelti and neck, which you wont be able to do on most relevant content without stacking debuff and buffs, so it mostly an option for boss fights only.
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By saintdenis22 2022-10-24 10:45:53
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Ruanmoko, thanks so much for this video and all the videos you make. To this day I still remember your advice to try other jobs to keep the love of the game going.

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