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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-06 01:53:41
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Threepeat of the Frog; IT. IS. IMMUNE. TO. GEOMANCY.

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/51619/ambuscade-vol1-november-2017/

Quenching Hammer owns your life. Pets or Erinys style THF.
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By Pantafernando 2019-08-06 02:11:20
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Good month to resub
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By DirectX 2019-08-06 03:27:40
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So either SMN burn or use Mewing & DNC or THF to WS it to death?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-06 03:34:53
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DirectX said: »
So either SMN burn or use Mewing & DNC or THF to WS it to death?

Those are the optimal/preferred setups, yeah.
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By Undula 2019-08-06 06:11:27
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SE messed up, no Ambu NPC/book in Mhaura...
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2019-08-06 07:50:43
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any strats for D or N that don't involve smn for this one? Or is my group sitting out another month
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By Isszo 2019-08-06 07:56:21
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Only one summoner required to burn this frog down.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2019-08-06 07:58:23
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What damage type works best? Will Leaden Salute work or it
will hard resist it?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-06 08:18:37
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Lakshmi.Avereith said: »
any strats for D or N that don't involve smn for this one? Or is my group sitting out another month

If you use absolutely minimum buffs. Like Indi-Haste and Haste2 Quenching Hammer won't destroy your whole party. It's pretty slow though. But totally reasonable.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-08-06 08:36:01
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PUP Overdrive party should be even better than it was during frog part deuce, given the changes to attachments. You don't actually need OD, just 3-4 halfway decent PUPs, a Corsair, and maybe a DRG for Angon or DNC for stacked steps. We were able to do VD last time this method, but it takes a little longer. OD makes it significantly faster.

There's probably a good strategy that involves 1-2 Monk and 1-2 SMNs using Mew and Chi Blast rotations with a good multi-step in there. Should be able to reset his TP before he ever has a chance to use hammer (unless he has a regain effect). Maybe add RDM in the mix to cripple him so you can skip the tank part.

I don't recall anyone actually trying it the non-buff/providence (adds spawn) method, but maybe a supertank could handle that and bring some DRG/SAM/WAR/DNC/THF for debuffs. Might be a messy strat, but it's worth trying if you have a good tank/healer.
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By Cerberus.Jiko 2019-08-06 08:38:26
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Best place to kill for KIs? Im assuming Mamook, but not sure if better somewhere else.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-08-06 08:39:43
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Marjami #2 (best spot)
Foret de Henettiel (good pops)

Abyssea La-Theine
Abyssea Misareaux
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By Phoenix.Logical 2019-08-06 08:40:05
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Abys-LaThine. Conflux 4 first for plantoid kill on shroom then Conflux 6 for Porg kill.
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By Cerberus.Jiko 2019-08-06 08:40:19
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Thanks much.
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By Bahamut.Belkin 2019-08-06 08:54:13
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Lakshmi.Avereith said: »
any strats for D or N that don't involve smn for this one? Or is my group sitting out another month

If you use absolutely minimum buffs. Like Indi-Haste and Haste2 Quenching Hammer won't destroy your whole party. It's pretty slow though. But totally reasonable.

There is a blurb on BG-Wiki's old ambu page about Quenching Hammer only being used if there is a PLD, RUN, DRK, or BLU in the party. Is there any truth to that?

If there is, couldn't a party like NIN, WAR, WAR, COR, BRD, WHM work? Or really just three WAR's in 50% DT sets. Handle CS by having WHM Sacro and just spamming Curaga 3-4 for the duration.

Just spitballing.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-08-06 09:06:40
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That's not entirely true. When we did it last year, he would still use hammer in a full PUP setup. The trigger to hammer is if there is (I believe) a roll, song, or avatar's favor on any of the party members. It causes him to use Quenching Hammer over Providence, a MAB boost/full frog add spawn. If you do not have any of these on any member, it will use Providence instead (just as annoying to deal with and its basically a wipe). We had rolls on last time, but a robot can take a hit. With nothing more than 2 rolls, Quenching hammer will one-shot anybody, so you're not safe unless you're (1) not using support buffs or (2) mewing every few WS. You will die to quenching hammer.

On the link above, Oraen posted a really good strategy which involves 2 mews, done basically Erinys style (WS, mew, repeat). Likely better if you can get jobs like DNC/THF to stack some multi-steps, you should be fine. He's rather squishy overall.
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By Bahamut.Belkin 2019-08-06 09:11:25
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
That's not entirely true. When we did it last year, he would still use hammer in a full PUP setup. The trigger to hammer is if there is (I believe) a roll, song, or avatar's favor on any of the party members. It causes him to use Quenching Hammer over Providence, a MAB boost/full frog add spawn. If you do not have any of these on any member, it will use Providence instead (just as annoying to deal with and its basically a wipe). We had rolls on last time, but a robot can take a hit. With nothing more than 2 rolls, Quenching hammer will one-shot anybody, so you're not safe unless you're (1) not using support buffs or (2) mewing every few WS. You will die to quenching hammer.

On the link above, Oraen posted a really good strategy which involves 2 mews, done basically Erinys style (WS, mew, repeat). Likely better if you can get jobs like DNC/THF to stack some multi-steps, you should be fine. He's rather squishy overall.


I am so incredibly let down by yet another month of shitty ambuscade. Having to rely on SMN gimmicks is such bull-poppy.
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By DirectX 2019-08-06 09:15:56
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Bahamut.Belkin said: »
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
That's not entirely true. When we did it last year, he would still use hammer in a full PUP setup. The trigger to hammer is if there is (I believe) a roll, song, or avatar's favor on any of the party members. It causes him to use Quenching Hammer over Providence, a MAB boost/full frog add spawn. If you do not have any of these on any member, it will use Providence instead (just as annoying to deal with and its basically a wipe). We had rolls on last time, but a robot can take a hit. With nothing more than 2 rolls, Quenching hammer will one-shot anybody, so you're not safe unless you're (1) not using support buffs or (2) mewing every few WS. You will die to quenching hammer.

On the link above, Oraen posted a really good strategy which involves 2 mews, done basically Erinys style (WS, mew, repeat). Likely better if you can get jobs like DNC/THF to stack some multi-steps, you should be fine. He's rather squishy overall.


I am so incredibly let down by yet another month of shitty ambuscade. Having to rely on SMN gimmicks is such bull-poppy.
inb4 "oh no, you don't have to! If you want to take longer and have a massively increased chance of failure then you could use other strats! Don't take the easy mode because you should enjoy doing the same ***repeatedly!!"
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-08-06 09:18:04
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You could probably use Monks with some level of success. The low TP feed would do you well, just would take longer. I just mentioned above a strategy that does not involve a SMN if you use PUPs. And though I haven't even tried it, but you might be able to replicate something like this with BSTs. If you don't want to deal with hammer, just don't bring buffs and bring debuffing DD jobs. You'll have to deal with unsleepable adds, but it may still be less sucky than dealing with quenching hammer. Just can't rely on COR/BRD
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By clearlyamule 2019-08-06 09:26:26
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
PUP Overdrive party should be even better than it was during frog part deuce, given the changes to attachments. You don't actually need OD, just 3-4 halfway decent PUPs, a Corsair, and maybe a DRG for Angon or DNC for stacked steps. We were able to do VD last time this method, but it takes a little longer. OD makes it significantly faster.

There's probably a good strategy that involves 1-2 Monk and 1-2 SMNs using Mew and Chi Blast rotations with a good multi-step in there. Should be able to reset his TP before he ever has a chance to use hammer (unless he has a regain effect). Maybe add RDM in the mix to cripple him so you can skip the tank part.

I don't recall anyone actually trying it the non-buff/providence (adds spawn) method, but maybe a supertank could handle that and bring some DRG/SAM/WAR/DNC/THF for debuffs. Might be a messy strat, but it's worth trying if you have a good tank/healer.
Can confirm. Used to hammer every time. Never saw it use providence except in weird times when I got too close and tried wipe recovery. Used to tri box this all the time on VD using 2 pup and 1 cor. Was a little hairy without OD since autos would actually take damage then but not too bad. iirc though it did something weird and ranged autos weren't doing so well.
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By hobo 2019-08-06 09:27:46
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i miss the first round, when we could just gravity it and win
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2019-08-06 09:28:58
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hobo said: »
i miss the first round, when we could just gravity it and win

Good times
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By Asura.Sirris 2019-08-06 10:23:58
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
PUP Overdrive party should be even better than it was during frog part deuce, given the changes to attachments. You don't actually need OD, just 3-4 halfway decent PUPs, a Corsair, and maybe a DRG for Angon or DNC for stacked steps. We were able to do VD last time this method, but it takes a little longer. OD makes it significantly faster.

There's probably a good strategy that involves 1-2 Monk and 1-2 SMNs using Mew and Chi Blast rotations with a good multi-step in there. Should be able to reset his TP before he ever has a chance to use hammer (unless he has a regain effect). Maybe add RDM in the mix to cripple him so you can skip the tank part.

I don't recall anyone actually trying it the non-buff/providence (adds spawn) method, but maybe a supertank could handle that and bring some DRG/SAM/WAR/DNC/THF for debuffs. Might be a messy strat, but it's worth trying if you have a good tank/healer.

The last time this one was up, I think we were doing 2-3xPUP COR for VD with Overdrive? Our automatons have gained significant power since then, so I think you're right, this strat will be even easier now.

Ranged auto didn't work for this one, either. Wasn't it VE/VE that worked so well?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-08-06 10:37:20
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Yes it was Valoredge head/frame with Bone Crusher spam. I'm sure the attachments spread may have changed slightly with the recent changes, but it was basically Steam Jacket, MJ4, AP4, OF1/2, and the rest DPS. Flash and Voke also for when your pets die to reclaim hate. The only dangerous part is running in to do repair, but you can easily watch your robots HP, and when it dips significantly, you know Hammer just went off. Can sub whm for Dia2 and reraise/raises and a vile elixir just in case. If doing the OD method with COR resets, probably won't take more than 3-4 minutes now.
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By Shiva.Kasaioni 2019-08-06 13:00:09
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http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news25694.shtml cool
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2019-08-06 13:08:16
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Imagine my shock....
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By Asura.Chaostaru 2019-08-06 13:21:38
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you'd think with ambu broken my damn alex shout would fill faster. But nope.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-06 13:36:55
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Dorps ain't good 'nough

Expect even less *** given than Cait Sith's HTB and that was already pretty terribad.
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By Asura.Bratgurl 2019-08-06 13:55:51
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Bahamut.Belkin said: »
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
That's not entirely true. When we did it last year, he would still use hammer in a full PUP setup. The trigger to hammer is if there is (I believe) a roll, song, or avatar's favor on any of the party members. It causes him to use Quenching Hammer over Providence, a MAB boost/full frog add spawn. If you do not have any of these on any member, it will use Providence instead (just as annoying to deal with and its basically a wipe). We had rolls on last time, but a robot can take a hit. With nothing more than 2 rolls, Quenching hammer will one-shot anybody, so you're not safe unless you're (1) not using support buffs or (2) mewing every few WS. You will die to quenching hammer.

On the link above, Oraen posted a really good strategy which involves 2 mews, done basically Erinys style (WS, mew, repeat). Likely better if you can get jobs like DNC/THF to stack some multi-steps, you should be fine. He's rather squishy overall.


I am so incredibly let down by yet another month of shitty ambuscade. Having to rely on SMN gimmicks is such bull-poppy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPtRNVO6EBo&feature=youtu.be
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By Asura.Bratgurl 2019-08-06 13:56:07
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Smn not required at all.
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