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By DaneBlood 2019-06-14 08:52:35
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not on the server but a question i would ask if i was

1 - how fast is this executed considered a pc with reinsijima access
2 - any specific zone access needed ?
3 - What time of day ?
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By Asura.Hiraishinsenna 2019-06-14 09:02:30
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guessing any time of the day since they're botting
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By Lakshmi.Arcaniz 2019-06-14 09:41:28
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Asura.Hiraishinsenna said: »
guessing any time of the day since they're botting
lmao
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2019-06-14 09:47:22
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Haha

This guy selling afks while his bot does the work...
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By Odin.Drakenv 2019-06-14 11:02:00
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Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
Haha

This guy selling afks while his bot does the work...
Genius :0 the future of working?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mithlas 2019-06-14 12:16:10
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I read them wrong at first and thought "where's the price!? how they getting that much JP that fast?"
500 JP in 20 minutes
2100 in 70 minutes
ahahahahahahaha
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By DirectX 2019-06-14 13:27:01
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Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
Haha

This guy selling afks while his bot does the work...
Which is no different to anyone else selling JP... most just don't post on forums about it.
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By Bahamut.Agerine 2019-06-14 13:29:53
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Only if I get to pay you with money.
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By Bahamut.Lordshaxx 2019-06-14 18:58:25
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I'll also sell this service for 1 gil less.
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By Odin.Senaki 2019-06-14 22:54:45
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I wonder if selling JPs with a non-bot will become a premium service. Like "Don't want to get possibly banned price" lol.
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By Bahamut.Agerine 2019-06-14 23:42:46
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Odin.Senaki said: »
I wonder if selling JPs with a non-bot will become a premium service. Like "Don't want to get possibly banned price" lol.

Could someone actually get banned for paying gil for a service that “they wouldn’t know” would be botted?
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By Asura.Beatsbytaru 2019-06-14 23:59:52
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Sure could
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By Odin.Senaki 2019-06-15 00:38:22
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Bahamut.Agerine said: »
Odin.Senaki said: »
I wonder if selling JPs with a non-bot will become a premium service. Like "Don't want to get possibly banned price" lol.

Could someone actually get banned for paying gil for a service that “they wouldn’t know” would be botted?

100% could. SE used to ban people for just being in an alliance with a bot. Now 'used to' and 'still do' are not exactly the same. I don't know if they still do. But due to all the mass bans from it, I stay clear of any bots if I know it is happening.
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By DirectX 2019-06-15 05:46:33
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Odin.Senaki said: »
Bahamut.Agerine said: »
Odin.Senaki said: »
I wonder if selling JPs with a non-bot will become a premium service. Like "Don't want to get possibly banned price" lol.

Could someone actually get banned for paying gil for a service that “they wouldn’t know” would be botted?

100% could. ⁴SE used to ban people for just being in an alliance with a bot. Now 'used to' and 'still do' are not exactly the same. I don't know if they still do. But due to all the mass bans from it, I stay clear of any bots if I know it is happening.
When? I don't recall this ever happening.
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By Odin.Senaki 2019-06-15 09:20:44
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DirectX said: »
Odin.Senaki said: »
Bahamut.Agerine said: »
Odin.Senaki said: »
I wonder if selling JPs with a non-bot will become a premium service. Like "Don't want to get possibly banned price" lol.

Could someone actually get banned for paying gil for a service that “they wouldn’t know” would be botted?

100% could. ⁴SE used to ban people for just being in an alliance with a bot. Now 'used to' and 'still do' are not exactly the same. I don't know if they still do. But due to all the mass bans from it, I stay clear of any bots if I know it is happening.
When? I don't recall this ever happening.

All my evidence is anecdotal, but I've heard the same story from enough people on multiple accounts that I take it to be true. I think the case in question occurred in 2006? Someone was bot-speed hack pulling a group of puks and the whole group got reprimanded / punished for it.
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By DirectX 2019-06-15 10:05:01
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That's such a retarded thing to do that if I was the GM called I'd ban them all.
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By Bismarck.Kaoriasada 2019-06-15 12:13:53
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Bahamut.Agerine said: »
Odin.Senaki said: »
I wonder if selling JPs with a non-bot will become a premium service. Like "Don't want to get possibly banned price" lol.

Could someone actually get banned for paying gil for a service that “they wouldn’t know” would be botted?

Anything is possible with SE.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2019-06-15 13:02:14
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SE doesn't know the difference between botting and playing for unreasonably long hours by hand. It doesn't matter if the person selling your JP is botting or somehow made it financially viable to get chinamen to alternate grind shifts, they are at risk of ban and you are also at risk by association.

I can't think of anyone that got banned for participating in the china-botted fell cleave groups during abyssea era, though. Every instance of 'ban by association' I can think of was more endgame related, such as nyzul or dynamis.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-06-15 13:03:18
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iirc a bunch got banned for "being pl'd by bots" in the last big ban wave. 2015 or so.

(they were likely botting too, everyone was botting, but yeah)
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2019-06-15 13:03:53
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I can't think of any, but it could have happened. It'd still be more personal(botting on a mule to PL main/ls) than the shout groups, though. Possibly also people who didn't realize when their mule got hit their main on the same SE account would also be hit whether or not they cheated or associated.
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By Bismarck.Ihinaa 2019-06-15 13:07:13
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Since we're in a thread of experts, how long does it take to get 500 job points? I'm not asking in theory(as in everything going perfectly), I'm asking in practice, as in how long has it taken for people to reach 500 job points?
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By Bismarck.Cloudstrafie 2019-06-15 15:26:58
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Bismarck.Ihinaa said: »
Since we're in a thread of experts, how long does it take to get 500 job points? I'm not asking in theory(as in everything going perfectly), I'm asking in practice, as in how long has it taken for people to reach 500 job points?


Depends on where you are CP bonus wize if its base maybe a few hours if your capped with all bonuses cape and all missions 2-3 hours with a good group
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By Odin.Senaki 2019-06-15 16:34:06
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Bismarck.Ihinaa said: »
Since we're in a thread of experts, how long does it take to get 500 job points? I'm not asking in theory(as in everything going perfectly), I'm asking in practice, as in how long has it taken for people to reach 500 job points?

The average CP group will get about 70 job points/hour. Now the 'perfect' ones can reach 130 jp/hr. But not on average, no.
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By DirectX 2019-06-15 18:05:37
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Odin.Senaki said: »
The average CP group will get about 70 job points/hour. Now the 'perfect' ones can reach 130 jp/hr. But not on average, no.
At what level of JP?
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2019-06-15 19:04:36
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i get about 250/hr when doing the last 500(so all gifts applicable), but it's pretty hard to give a solid number given the value of mob shifts with so many things (mission completion, reive objectives, cape, corsair roll luck, number of gifts)
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-06-15 19:47:50
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Pfft we were doing over 350 JP/hr during campaign and over 250 JP/hr outside. Get out here with those rookie numbers!
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2019-06-15 19:49:37
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i was obviously talking about outside campaign, but campaign doesn't really make much difference when you cap amount per kill

the real problem when talking about mercing it is that someone with everything's 250 might be your buyer's 100
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-06-15 20:41:33
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Those numbers were for a friend with 0JP. We helped Rua get his SCH some JP from zero. I got zero JP per kill as I'm already at 500/500 and was there murdering mobs in 2-3 WS's. Had an NQ GEO NQ BRD NQ roll onry COR from shouts with Rua healing on SCH. Getting high JP isn't hard, just don't be stupid about it and realize that 80% of community advice is pure ***.
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By DirectX 2019-06-16 08:53:37
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250 JP an hour at 0 JP with 1 DD sounds like ***.
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