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By Ruaumoko 2018-09-10 03:37:05
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It's a repeat of the Lamia month.

Pet jobs were the most effective. I did some digging and found an old video of a VD kill.

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By Asura.Sechs 2018-09-10 03:39:47
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With the "small" difference that now everything is gonna have a plethora more HP D:
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-09-10 04:36:59
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Ugh. So.

Previously, A decent group was doing this in TWENTY *** minutes. 5 pup + rollcor.

3 "tanks" divide the mobs, put the beat down on each mob. Changing automaton from tank to dd mod as necessary.

Now, with TRIPLE the HP, You're gonna want to actually put some effort into it. 3 Pup (because it really is basically impossible for a human to tank these) 2 DD (smn will be dramatically better than pup).

Companion roll and OD rotations make it faster

You. Do. Not. Need. to use full tank mod automation, at the bare minimum go with a "bruiser tank"

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/String_Theory
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By Shiva.Arislan 2018-09-10 11:58:32
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More hp, but it's still the same basic fight. Nowhere near as annoying as August. All the info in the old thread is totally still relevant:

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/50210/ambuscade-volume-1-discussion-january-2017

Confirmed ranged is still a great way to go.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-09-10 15:41:01
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And suddenly all the pup shards and voids became worth 10m
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2018-09-10 17:01:32
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This is my favorite ambu....

I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!
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By Cerberus.Boogs 2018-09-10 19:58:50
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Tried this on VE... and easily took down one of the adds (don't remember which) and it immediately respawned.

EDIT: Read through the older post and found it that adds will respawn so long as Freya is up.

Someone also mentioned that charm went right through fealty... do Light Carols work at all?
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By Odin.Spoiled 2018-09-11 16:09:31
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Anyone know how viable SMN burn could be on this? COR WHM PLD smnx3 with each SMN 1hring a Lamia?
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2018-09-11 16:29:17
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Here's a recollection I posted in the other thread

In regards to ambuscade, I posted this recollection in a discord channel last night-
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I kinda remember now
The tank has to make 'eye contact' with them at all times
except when they do some specific movies
or else they get promoted and gain a mask and hate becomes uncontrollable
RUN/PLD, run in -> Sentinel
then position them so you're making eye contact
You won't lose hate this way
YOu have like 5 seconds to position in the beginning or they promote and its annoying af
Disregard moves you want to look at them or you'll get the effect
Dance moves you want to look away
You get frigg to 5%, then kill them Freyja -> Frigg -> Skathi


Your tank needs to maintain 'eye contact' with the Lamia at all times. If they do some kind of dance move, you need to look away.
If they do a disregard move, you need to look at them. If you can do this then the TP moves will not affect you, otherwise you might get charmed/bio/etc. If you break eye contact with them for too long then they gain some kind of mask effect that makes it seemingly impossible (maybe reverses) their hate. You can use any kind of setup for this as long as you can manage the gaze rules.
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2018-09-11 16:53:17
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Thanks, Snaps. Really good advice. Yeah, I have a good PUP and I barely remembered doing this one pet style... because I think we did it player-tank style since I couldn't find other PUPs to go with me that month outside of like 1-2 fights.
 
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-09-11 17:00:47
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Man it'd be nice if asurans could pull off that kind of coordination.

Pets Onry on assura.

Really is one of the easiest months, but can't be bothered to not get charmed literally ever single time.
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By geigei 2018-09-11 17:19:44
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Frigg spam charm on VD.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2018-09-11 17:28:58
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geigei said: »
Frigg spam charm on VD.

Frigg only does this if Freyja is dead. You want to weaken Frigg to 5%, then kill Freyja, and quickly kill Frigg before it becomes troublesome.
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By Valefor.Yandaime 2018-09-11 17:31:06
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Gaze Check Addon will help a great deal..

...Now if I could just get in as a normal DD... I very much would love to have fun again lol
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By geigei 2018-09-11 17:34:21
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Fenrir.Snaps said: »
geigei said: »
Frigg spam charm on VD.

Frigg only does this if Freyja is dead. You want to weaken Frigg to 5%, then kill Freyja, and quickly kill Frigg before it becomes troublesome.
Frigg charmed our guy everytime while i was still fighting freyja.
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By Shiva.Arislan 2018-09-11 17:50:59
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geigei said: »
Fenrir.Snaps said: »
geigei said: »
Frigg spam charm on VD.

Frigg only does this if Freyja is dead. You want to weaken Frigg to 5%, then kill Freyja, and quickly kill Frigg before it becomes troublesome.
Frigg charmed our guy everytime while i was still fighting freyja.

Yes, it's mechanics change on VD. Will use charmga even if Freyja is still alive. We cheesed this last year by having PUP/pet hold Frigg off to the side.

And the gaze stuff is 100% correct. If line of site is broken for too long between any of the Lamia and the top person on their enmity list, they'll get "afterglow" and they will "disregard" the person on the top of their hate list. Have to reestablish line of sight for a few seconds for the glow to drop -- recommended for whoever pulled hate to bring the Lamia back to the tank.

Also makes Petrify and Terror horrible if you turn wrong on a JA.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2018-09-11 17:56:16
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When the rabbit screams, the fox comes running, but not to help. When the players scream, why will SE come running?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-09-11 18:56:26
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For as incredibly easy as this month is, it ends up being even worse than last.

The only thing worse than a cor that can't shoot, is a pup that only got on pup for ambuscade.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2018-09-11 19:00:03
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Shiva.Arislan said: »
geigei said: »
Fenrir.Snaps said: »
geigei said: »
Frigg spam charm on VD.

Frigg only does this if Freyja is dead. You want to weaken Frigg to 5%, then kill Freyja, and quickly kill Frigg before it becomes troublesome.
Frigg charmed our guy everytime while i was still fighting freyja.

Yes, it's mechanics change on VD. Will use charmga even if Freyja is still alive. We cheesed this last year by having PUP/pet hold Frigg off to the side.

And the gaze stuff is 100% correct. If line of site is broken for too long between any of the Lamia and the top person on their enmity list, they'll get "afterglow" and they will "disregard" the person on the top of their hate list. Have to reestablish line of sight for a few seconds for the glow to drop -- recommended for whoever pulled hate to bring the Lamia back to the tank.

Also makes Petrify and Terror horrible if you turn wrong on a JA.

If it's Belly Dance then you can still turn from it.
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By Shiva.Arislan 2018-09-11 19:14:11
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Fenrir.Snaps said: »
If it's Belly Dance then you can still turn from it.

Yeah, it's Raqs Baladi Dance, and can be avoided by turning. Penalty for failing tho is 2-mins of outright mayhem.
 
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By Cerberus.Boogs 2018-09-11 23:16:10
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On VD, in a drawn out fight, it seems to not use EES and instead uses a draw-in followed by the poison/petrify move.
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By Shiva.Hiep 2018-09-11 23:52:51
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Spammed a few VD Vol 1 tonight, RUN PUP RNG RNG BRD Healer. RUN tanked the Freyja and Skathi in the beginning corner while the PUP tanked Frigg far away. Kill order was Skathi 5% > Kill Freyja > Kill Skathi > Frigg. Once Skathi was dead, everyone was able to AFK while the RNGs worked on the Frigg that the PUP was holding. Runs took around 11 minutes.
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By missdivine 2018-09-12 01:40:03
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Just did this ambuscade, pups must wear resister and resister 2, to avoid getting your pet petrified from the main boss, She hates resets each time she does the aoe petrify move.
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-09-12 04:44:55
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I was Wearing Resister 1, Resister 2, 2x Optic Fiber, got around ~30 Pet MEVA in gear and even with 3x Water Maneuvers (or 1 Light 2 Water, or 1 water 2 light) I never resisted AoE Petrify move even once.

Maybe with Overdrive I dunno, to the point where I wondered if I should bother with Resister at all.
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By Ruaumoko 2018-09-12 05:54:54
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May sound mad but has anyone tried sticking Blind to see if that negates the gaze attacks?

Trying to find ways of making melee setups simpler for this.
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By Sylph.Brahmsz 2018-09-12 10:32:21
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Ruaumoko said: »
May sound mad but has anyone tried sticking Blind to see if that negates the gaze attacks?

Trying to find ways of making melee setups simpler for this.
Might I suggest trying the old trick of using Blind Potions. Normal mob glare attacks can be nullified by blinding the them (Peists for example), or blinding the player (in the latter case Hecteyes). But the Lamiae use an AoE Glare attack, which would mean the player them self would need to be blinded.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-09-12 10:45:04
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So automatons have essentially negative meva lol.

If you want to resist (even with OD it doesn't work all the time) you really need to be a real pup, with the taeon set.

Otherwise, you just power through it with maint. Oils+3 are 1k
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By Sylph.Brahmsz 2018-09-12 10:46:26
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
So automatons have essentially negative meva lol.
I thought that was common knowledge.
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