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 Lakshmi.Aanalaty
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By Lakshmi.Aanalaty 2018-06-13 16:37:39
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Does anyone know if the Augmented TAs from the Raider/Skulker sets proc on WS if you TA?

Thanks!

Side question, what accessable 119 legs are good for Dex WS for a rusty returning thf? All 3 109/119 base reforged sets have <10 dex. All the recommended gearsets with the +2/+3s are way outside of my reach as i havent even beat cloud of darkness yet. These manibozo legs when I left in 2013 cant be the best I can get lol.

Side side question, is there a searchable/sortable database to answer simple gear questions like this? Trying to search for specific attributes on a piece of gear is a PITA on the web of wikis and event pages when you are 5 years out of the loop.

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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-06-13 16:59:42
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Side side question, is there a searchable/sortable database to answer simple gear questions like this? Trying to search for specific attributes on a piece of gear is a PITA on the web of wikis and event pages when you are 5 years out of the loop.

On this very page under "item search" click "Power Search". You can use this website as a database and query whatever you would like to see, and filter it by slot, job, race, name, description.

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If you want to find every piece of gear THF can use that has "critical hit damage" on it, perform this search and you can review each piece one by one. You can take it a step further and list the actual slot you're looking to fill, to narrow down the results.

edit: this feature does not cover augments on gear, so you'll have to check those respective sets to see if they have an augment that falls into the area that you're looking for.

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Your previous question will be answered by this.

I don't think there's any information on empyrean set bonus working on WS.
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By Lakshmi.Aanalaty 2018-06-13 17:10:55
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/facepalm. I used to use this site on the daily and completely forgot about the advanced search function. Memory is a strange and fickle thing. Thanks!!
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-06-13 18:05:48
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leg slot tends to lack dex. unfortunately most of the good armor that isn't reforged stuff also has augments, which don't show up on search (obviously.)

lustr. subligar are really good for DEX legs, though
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-06-13 18:56:48
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no, it doesn't work on ws
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-13 19:04:05
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Not that I disagree. I'm pretty sure it doesn't work on ws too.

Just curious how it would be tested. Since it's a 5% increase @ a 5% chance on only the 2nd and 3rd hit, of only the main hand.

That's basically 20 damage total on a 10k rudra. Well within margin of error.
You could never get accurate numbers on Evis Exen DE

You would have to like thf/sam a mob that takes crazy damage, with high health (Qutrub) to even notice?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-13 19:41:23
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If a Rudras does 10k damage, multi-hits that get added to it are VERY weak. They're around 200 damage.

So if you did 10k and it TA'd you'd get 10,400 and if the set proc'd you'd get 5% increase of 400 damage... which is basically 20

So you'd land 10420, instead of 10400 which is completely unnoticeable
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-06-13 19:45:56
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no form of da or ta damage works on ws. set bonuses included.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-13 19:49:11
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
no form of da or ta damage works on ws. set bonuses included.

I don't know if I entirely believe that or not
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-06-13 19:51:53
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
no form of da or ta damage works on ws. set bonuses included.

I don't know if I entirely believe that or not
easy test with warrior or assassin charge
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-06-13 19:53:17
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Rufuso said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
no form of da or ta damage works on ws. set bonuses included.
What is that even supposed to mean? Yes DA\TA\QA gears/traits does increase weaponskill dmgs, so based of this initial comment you said without even elaborating,you add including set bonus while we specifically speak about empyrean & not everything like abjuration gears +1 for instance. NOTHING BUT EMPY. prove it.
good lord you're retarded. you posted specifically about the set and I told you the set proc won't work on ws. no form of da or ta works on ws, including the set bonus.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-06-13 19:54:05
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Tested ages ago, those bonuses don't happen on WS. It would be extremely noticeable since all the hits get the bonus.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-13 19:54:51
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Now, we're in the realm of eyeballs.

Yes AC and WC will increase damage. (because they make it multi)

But it won't increase the damage if you wore a Demonry ring (for example)
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-06-13 19:56:32
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Rufuso said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Now, we're in the realm of eyeballs.

Yes AC and WC will increase damage. (because they make it multi)

But it won't increase the damage if you wore a Demonry ring (for example)
Oh but i know demonry ring does not work.
then what the *** are you arguing about? you just said you doubted any form of ta damage not working on ws.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-06-13 19:59:33
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Rufuso said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Rufuso said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Now, we're in the realm of eyeballs.

Yes AC and WC will increase damage. (because they make it multi)

But it won't increase the damage if you wore a Demonry ring (for example)
Oh but i know demonry ring does not work.
then what the *** are you arguing about? you just said you doubted any form of ta damage not working on ws.
Make proper sentences.
you first
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-06-13 20:13:26
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Rufuso said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
Tested ages ago, those bonuses don't happen on WS. It would be extremely noticeable since all the hits get the bonus.
Can you please show me that testing Saevel? That is all im asking for, i've seen some of your posts speaking about datas before & to be fully honest with you, i have disagreed with a couple of them althought i havnt replyed to you ab out it. & no im not looking to argue.

Kaerin did it

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/19774/ukkos-fury-setup/78/#2016224

Byrth confirmed it

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/19774/ukkos-fury-setup/81/#2036023

Was tested on Emperian and Double Attack Damage + gear

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/War._Cuisses_%2B2

It's super easy to test on WAR because it can get ridiculous amounts of DA, can force 100% DA, and Ukko's is two hits. He probably also did tests on TA but you can do your own homework.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-13 21:07:39
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Rufuso said: »
but I think it's unlikely enough and difficult enough to test that it isn't worth testing.

This is basically what it came down to that I said back 20 posts ago.

The increase would be so small it would be very hard to see. It would all be in the realm of error%
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