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Arke set and Srivatsa
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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-07-10 17:36:50
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Probably wont be much to talk about but with the whole "Not better than Ochain, and Not Better than JSE With reprisal up" Can this be a good thing?

Assume only Solo play with or without trust
5/5 NQ or +1 and Hybrid DD or Full tank or Full DD other gear and all.

Would this be a decent place to Use Aeonic shield?
Will test this myself sooner or later but figured others have this gear already and know first hand.
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By Taint 2017-07-10 18:24:56
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I use arke 5/5 plus ochain. But aeonic shield is the best offensive shield. I think if you have every other aeonic you desire it would be a great shield for DPSing. However in the same situation you are probably better off on a different job.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2017-07-10 18:25:59
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Srivatsa has two things it's actually sorta good for.

It has the highest HP/MP in the sub slot.
It has the highest enmity+ in the sub slot.

Although both of these have very limited application if you don't want to swap shields constantly. I can't think of a single comabt situation in the game during which I'd full time Srivatsa.

And that's pretty much it. There's shields that are better for pretty much everything else.

Blurred+1 is a far better pure DPS shield, Ochain/Priwen stomp Srivatsa for physical dmg reduction, and Aegis remains the king vs magic.

About all I'm getting from the idea of using Arke with Srivatsa is that you're trying to take more dmg to get more TP?

If that was the idea, then either take the shield off entirely(or wear aegis, amounts to about the same block rate as not having a shield on. -.-;; ), dual wield for more DPS, or just use Ochain for the fairly significant shield mastery TP gains.

TLDR; the best use I've yet seen for Srivatsa is for lockstyle. It does look kinda neat.
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By Taint 2017-07-10 18:41:24
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They missed with Srivatsa should have been -damage taken II.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2017-07-10 19:06:46
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They really did screw up with Srivatsa. They completely failed to find it a niche to excel in.
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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-07-10 19:51:16
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Ragnarok.Martel said: »
They really did screw up with Srivatsa. They completely failed to find it a niche to excel in.

You could argue that point for any and all Aeonics vs Other REMA
I like Srivatsa and I will use it over Ochain in Omen pulls and just anything (all of maybe 3 NMs) that do not cast magic.

I made it, I like it I do Use it, but with the Arke set I can see it being a LOT more fun as for other jobs Drg and War who can use the same set you can out damage me already so no diff imo keep on trucking
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2017-07-10 21:08:49
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You could try to argue that, but you'd fail in several cases.

Most Aeonics actually have a use. Trishula, for example, is not necessarily the highest DPS in all situations(although it is pretty damn good), but it has ridiculous SC potential. 4 step umbra destroys mobs. Many Aeonics fall into this SC specialist niche. Or some are flat out the Job's best DPS option(Lionheart, admittedly, said job doesn't have relic or empy.) and so on. Even for mages, if they were to melee, Aeonics would at least be good for that. Though I honestly don't know where the dps hierarchy stands for melee-mage weps. But Srivatsa? Nope.

Srivatsa has got nothing to do with the potential of the Arke set. The two have no particular synergy, or advantage, when being used together. Frankly, you could have removed Srivatsa from this thread entirely. Made an 'Arke set and PLD' thread, perhaps.

So you know it's an inferior shield, but you're going to use it anyway cause you like it? That's pretty damn silly. But you can play how you want, have at.
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By Fenrir.Pertalee 2017-10-06 11:35:24
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Have there been any updates on the usefulness of Srivatsa? Or am I just using it for lockstyle and DDing?
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2017-10-06 12:03:50
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Get a Blurred shield/+1 for DD(Unless you really, really need that extra bit of acc), and lockstyle Srivatsa.
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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-10-06 12:20:00
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Actually, I tested this a week or two ago, As Martel said
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and lockstyle Srivatsa.

Went to Sih Gates, Pulled a Ton of Tough, and VT mobs with my normal tank set and Srivatsa. TP gain and even block rate was ***. Id say all information was accurate from prior testing. Since I am a guy who needs to have hands on exp over visual aids, I test it myself. Switched to Ochain and lol 90+% block rate, TP for days MP back and over all faster kills. Added in 3 Arke pieces I have(Hands body head) and did same testing for about 30 more min. Almost died once due to pure lack of blocks, and was about 1k hp+ full time when Ochain was in place for Srivatsa. So yes, Lockstyle that shield. I may next VW campaign 99 my Ochain just for the extra Vit and MP back but it be needed with af+3 boots.
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By Fenrir.Pertalee 2017-10-06 12:25:22
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Interesting. Thank you for the info.
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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-10-06 12:30:25
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Since i'm kinda stubborn and a bit abnormal when it comes to trusting people, I suggest you test it yourself in a similar although maybe less aggressive way. Can get 119 shields from many different places and test it vs Ochain in what ever set you have, even Arke. Arke is not bad for CP pulls when doing Aeolian edge kills but shield will make or break your numbers
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By Fenrir.Pertalee 2017-10-06 12:35:36
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Yes, I still intend to test it with some varying sets. I thought it was interesting that the JP testing said 32skill added 9% block rate.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2017-10-06 15:10:06
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Leviathan.Brotherhood said: »
Actually, I tested this a week or two ago, As Martel said
Ragnarok.Martel said: »
and lockstyle Srivatsa.

Went to Sih Gates, Pulled a Ton of Tough, and VT mobs with my normal tank set and Srivatsa. TP gain and even block rate was ***. Id say all information was accurate from prior testing. Since I am a guy who needs to have hands on exp over visual aids, I test it myself. Switched to Ochain and lol 90+% block rate, TP for days MP back and over all faster kills. Added in 3 Arke pieces I have(Hands body head) and did same testing for about 30 more min. Almost died once due to pure lack of blocks, and was about 1k hp+ full time when Ochain was in place for Srivatsa. So yes, Lockstyle that shield. I may next VW campaign 99 my Ochain just for the extra Vit and MP back but it be needed with af+3 boots.
99ed mine because I hit capped gil while selling on another server and was receiving 300 mil at same time. Bought everything and 99ed at the time. *** great for cp and non magical heavy monsters. I don't regret it at all.
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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-10-06 16:16:58
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Odin.Drakenv said: »
99ed mine because I hit capped gil while selling on another server and was receiving 300 mil at same time. Bought everything and 99ed at the time. *** great for cp and non magical heavy monsters. I don't regret it at all.

lol I wish I could say I am the same with gil, but broke is broke. It is a lifestyle choice :-P

Still worth it if you want it, but unless they will give 119 option It is not anything but points on Ah and some random question about Why and what is the point I would guess.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2017-10-06 16:27:16
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Leviathan.Brotherhood said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
99ed mine because I hit capped gil while selling on another server and was receiving 300 mil at same time. Bought everything and 99ed at the time. *** great for cp and non magical heavy monsters. I don't regret it at all.

lol I wish I could say I am the same with gil, but broke is broke. It is a lifestyle choice :-P

Still worth it if you want it, but unless they will give 119 option It is not anything but points on Ah and some random question about Why and what is the point I would guess.
Yeah it's not needed but fun. The 90 percent rate is true from my experience
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