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 Asura.Farroh
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By Asura.Farroh 2017-03-02 12:49:51
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hey guys, just wanted to see if there is anything better i can do with my Helix gear set. should i change anything for better results?

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sets.midcast['Elemental Magic'].Helix = {
    main={ name="Grioavolr", augments={'Enmity-3','INT+12','Mag. Acc.+25','"Mag.Atk.Bns."+20','Magic Damage +4',}},
    sub="Niobid Strap",
    ammo="Pemphredo Tathlum",
    head={ name="Merlinic Hood", augments={'Mag. Acc.+17 "Mag.Atk.Bns."+17','Magic burst mdg.+11%','INT+5','Mag. Acc.+15','"Mag.Atk.Bns."+10',}},
    body={ name="Merlinic Jubbah", augments={'Mag. Acc.+23 "Mag.Atk.Bns."+23','Magic dmg. taken -2%','Mag. Acc.+15','"Mag.Atk.Bns."+14',}},
    hands={ name="Amalric Gages", augments={'INT+10','Mag. Acc.+15','"Mag.Atk.Bns."+15',}},
    legs={ name="Merlinic Shalwar", augments={'Mag. Acc.+25 "Mag.Atk.Bns."+25','Magic burst mdg.+8%','"Mag.Atk.Bns."+12',}},
    feet="Arbatel Loafers +1",
    neck="Eddy Necklace",
    waist="Hachirin-no-Obi",
    left_ear="Static Earring",
    right_ear="Barkaro. Earring",
    left_ring="Locus Ring",
    right_ring="Mujin Band",
    back={ name="Lugh's Cape", augments={'INT+20','Mag. Acc+20 /Mag. Dmg.+20','Magic Damage +8','"Mag.Atk.Bns."+10',}},
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2017-03-02 13:14:17
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Mizu Kubikazari


Then either you use a Merlinic you got with more MAB/MACC but no MB Bonus or you lose Static earring/Locus.
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By Asura.Fiasko 2017-03-02 13:16:00
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Tenzen neck/Akademos/friomosi earring
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By Asura.Toralin 2017-03-02 13:21:10
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Obi doesnt work on helix iirc

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10% staff
11% head
10% neck
9% legs
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40% burst
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2017-03-02 13:24:28
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it's not that obi doesn't work, it's that helix automatically gets the benefit so obi can't add anything extra besides the chance to save mp

edit: oh god triple post
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By Asura.Farroh 2017-03-02 13:34:54
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ok great. ill make some changes and see how it goes. thanks all.
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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2017-12-16 08:43:15
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I would like to bump this for ideas. What is BiS now? Given additions to ambuscade +2, would like to see fellow Scholars helix sets.

Thanks!
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By Asura.Toralin 2017-12-16 09:08:38
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still using the same, except enki strap, SCH not on Ea gear so some super sets really never materialized
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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2017-12-16 09:18:22
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Would a Jubbah with 15INT and 32MACC 30MAB beat the HQ amalric?
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By Asura.Toralin 2017-12-16 11:29:35
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Amalric u got
66mab
53macc
38 int

that jubbah would be
50mab
52macc
55int


so whats better 16mab or 17 int would be the question
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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2017-12-16 16:24:14
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After gently looking over the other forums it seems INT and MDMG are the two categories of main focus. The dINT value caps @ 100. Im wondering if im already over the INT cap, and will MAB actually help?
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By Asura.Toralin 2017-12-16 17:03:54
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for me the choice comes down to inventory, my amalric+1 is used on blu blm and sch, so the choice is easy
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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2017-12-16 18:44:52
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Completely agree... can you explain how arbatel feet hold value ? They seem outdated since reisn. Is 15 % boost outweigh the loss of int,macc,mab?
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By Asura.Toralin 2018-01-08 06:50:00
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Its the strongest item in the set minus the staff? easy to test, throw on amalric+1 or your best merlinic and see what does more.
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By Asura.Haymitch 2018-02-08 23:38:57
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Pedagogy Mortarboard +3:
DEF:112 HP+86 MP+82 STR+24 DEX+24 VIT+24 AGI+24 INT+39 MND+39 CHR+29 Accuracy+37 Magic Accuracy+37 Evasion+56 Magic Evasion+95 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+49 "Magic Def. Bonus"+7 Elemental magic skill +19 Haste+6% Magic burst accuracy+15 Magic burst damage II +4 Grimoire: Spellcasting time -13%

that is our new BiS for MB set!!! :D
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-02-09 01:25:45
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Requires you to cap MB in the other slots without using head (and feet) though.
Personally I can't reach 40% without the head and feet slot atm, but with better augs on body and legs, sure.

Still, pretty good piece!
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-02-09 01:32:07
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Why no empyrean feet
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-02-11 06:20:58
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Asura.Sechs said: »
Why no empyrean feet
No I meant: You already cannot use feet slot to get MBB1 because of the Empy feet, which means you need to cap MB1 in the other slots (neck, 1 ring, staff, head, body, hands, legs).
Removing head means one less slot "available" to cap MBB1.

I haven't done the math but I guess it's perfectly doable, it will require much better augs in the body/legs slots though (not including hands becuse assuming Amalric)
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By Asura.Toralin 2018-02-11 09:35:05
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ill take a stab at what I will use, gotta get 10 or 11burst on the pants to hit 40

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The peda head+2/+3 isnt showing on ffxiah so just threw nq on there
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-02-11 09:41:45
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Is the body worth it?
Insane amounts of macc, good INT, but no mab/mdmg?
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By SimonSes 2018-03-22 06:30:33
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Bumping this.

This seems to be the best I could come up with.

Akademos + neck + body (10%) + earring and ring is 40%
I heard conflict opinion about Magic burst bonus from gits tho. Some ppl say it goes under 40% limit cap and some say they exceed it. Anyone know how it's really are?


EDIT: I actually changed it. Merlinic legs instead of Amalric legs+1
Friomisi Earring instead of Static. Jhakri ring instead of Locus.


Amalric legs +1 are +70MAB +20MAcc +40Int
Merlinic are only max at +45-55MAB, but has potentially a lot higher Macc and INT and also Magic Damage +13
Changing ring and earring also adds +13Mab and +6Macc, so some of that MAB loss from Amalric legs is given back here.
You need +18 Magic Burst Bonus between legs and body. You cna always use Locus ring too if you can't get +18 on body and legs and you will only need +15 then.


Actually Amalric Legs +1 are +80MAB, because set bonus from 2 first pieces is +20, so Idk if that's worth it after all. Seems like Amalric Legs and hands with Static earring and Locus ring are better.

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By geigei 2018-03-22 06:49:34
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Gifts are not part of 40 cap.
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By Asura.Toralin 2018-03-22 08:10:52
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Tested this on some Reisen NM level content this is the absolute best me and another friend came up with

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merlinc head 11% 35mab
merlinic boy 10% 27mab/7int
merlinic legs 11% 30mab

This was beating all the akademos combos we could throw at it with amarlic+1 and empy feet with matching weather klimaform.

This really came down to carrying 3 extra pieces of gear, merlinic burst body/legs and raetic staff+1 for an extra 3% helix dmg. Obviously if you werent going for helix duration the ambuscade cape would be put int for max dmg
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By tyalangan 2018-03-22 09:58:49
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1. Are you using Raetic just for MB and helixes or just helixes? Or maybe MP doesn't run out even with the 30% added and you full time it on all nukes?

2. With almaric are resists not an issue? Or is this assuming marine stew pots, idris geo focus or something similar?
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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2018-03-22 11:02:14
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So from what im reading...

If Raetic HQ, no klima boots

If Akademos, use klima boots?

Toralin since your doing the bulk of testing... would you mind posting BiS Reatic (HQ only) and Akademos.

Thank you for your efforts!
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