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By karusanyoshi 2015-12-28 00:04:59
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How can I do this better?

I am RDM/NIN and I can't clear a normal of any of these, with or without trusts. The closest I've gotten is down to 10-12% and then it just goes berserk and spams me. I have temper 3/refresh 3, and I can self-sc if I don't have to stop to cast shadows.

Single hits take off 500 dmg due to added effect, so if shadows run out ever, I'm dead. AoE's take out trusts quickly, so they are unreliable.

I've watched RDM/NIN solo VD before in youtube videos, with seemingly inferior gear to mine, but something about the mechanics I'm failing to grasp.
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What tips can you guys give about soloing these?
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By Siren.Kyte 2015-12-28 00:54:35
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Your gear looks fine- I honestly have no idea how you're not managing to kill them on Normal, particularly while the Trust campaign is active.



Which trusts are you using?
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By karusanyoshi 2015-12-28 01:21:12
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Rahal, Apururu, Ulmia/Joachim, and Arciela.

Was afraid I'd get a response like that haha.

EDIT: I did it :)

It's actually pretty systematic and reacting with the correct ability/item as she's using it, i.e. have echo drops already prepped to go as she's casting silence, run out of range from predator claw, have cure4 casting for wind blade, etc. The trick is to not be animation locked by casting/WS'ing while she's prepping predator claw, especially after she strips your shadows, which the AI is fond of doing one right after the other. Addle II is a big help in these fights as well, it makes their cast time pathetic and gives you a lot of breathing room to heal, recast shadows/buffs/debuffs.

I'm pretty noob to soloing anything, but it's a lot more involved on RDM than it ever was on SMN.
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By Fenrir.Tarowyn 2015-12-28 01:32:26
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Rahal doesn't seem like he's doing much there except giving you an initial provoke. You're probably better off replacing him with seltheus or something.

You can get rid of the added effect dmg for most of the battlefields as rdm, which one are you trying to do in particular?
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By karusanyoshi 2015-12-28 01:42:26
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How do you get rid of the added effect? I've seen the different colored !!'s but I don't know how they work, and I haven't seen documentation about them.

Is there anything on any of the wiki's about how to proc them/what they do?
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By Fenrir.Tarowyn 2015-12-28 01:47:28
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I only have the information from the JP wiki, don't check the english one's much, hehe.

You have to do one of following 4 things when the enemy's in the middle of a WS: WS, ability, magic, or pet command. Every time they astral flow it gets reset so you'll have to proc them again. Which one it is depends on which avatar you're fighting so if you tell me which you're trying to fight I can be more specific.
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By Siren.Kyte 2015-12-28 02:22:26
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Amchuchu would do a lot better if you have him; even if he loses hate, he'll still provide some defensive benefit.
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By Valefor.Pairak 2015-12-28 05:26:03
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I am not 100% sure, but I think the procs is just based on the avatars action vs your own action, like, if garuda is casting a spell, then a quick dia or something on her will cause a proc, and I know ive managed to proc her Whispering Wind by use of provoke (I normally do it as pld).
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By Asura.Azriel 2015-12-28 05:37:51
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Same goes for steps, procs them too.

I do them on BLU with MG with a similar setup and have almost 0 problems on Normal beside the occasianly fail hickup.

I also would recommend Amchu over Rahal and Sel over Ulmia.

Edit: oh and i face pretty much every tpattack/nuke in PDT/MDT Turtle gear.
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By Sylph.Subadai 2015-12-28 16:30:26
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karusanyoshi said: »
I've watched RDM/NIN solo VD before in youtube videos
Can you post a link, that would be fun/interesting to watch
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By karusanyoshi 2015-12-28 16:34:01
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ask and you shall receive

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By Asura.Baddog 2015-12-28 18:47:33
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Each proc seems to have the same effect, you just 3 per Astral flow. JA proc, magic proc, ws proc. There's an add on or plug in for windower that will make you use echoes automatically, aecho.

I suggest trying brygid, she's invulnerable and gives you a defense and magic defense aura. And perhaps a 2nd tank with august and amchuchu but maybe that's overkill
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