And Xaddi,
Leviathan.Kaparu said: »
All Acc/PDT path, obviously
Accuracy is probably never going to be capped on anything VD-level and above unless you're getting a buff rotation on you(good luck with that), so pile as much as you can
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PLD Tanking - Keeping the Hate?
No matter the weapon, you're keeping hate through rangers
And Xaddi, Leviathan.Kaparu said: » All Acc/PDT path, obviously Accuracy is probably never going to be capped on anything VD-level and above unless you're getting a buff rotation on you(good luck with that), so pile as much as you can Asura.Natenn said: » For cures get that cure pot gear and self cure gear, dont need to be perfect but make it so u put HP+ gear on and enmity+ when you cure yourself. For cures, don't cure yourself. The enmity is atrocious Shiva.Eightball
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Never self cure unless you are going to die or your healer is low on mp, otherwise you are just wasting mp/time that could be used towards something productive.
Shiva.Malthar said: » Kap, what are the augments on your Xaddi gear? Do you prefer acc over pdt? I'm asking so many questions because I just got a 119 Burtgang but enmity control seems problematic because I can barely hit the damned things to maintain hate. I also go /blu and spam cocoon, blank gaze, and jettatura, but the recasts/cast times seems so high that the mob turns from me more times than it faces me. For high tier mobs, how much acc do you recommend for a PLD? ItemSet 331515 All my Cizin +1 gear, have PDT/MDT 3~4% and ACC +8 augments. Weard mantle has VIT/DEX +2 and emnity +5. If you need more ACC, you can swap more Cizin +1 with the Xaddi gear (w/ ACC of course). And if you're still hurting for ACC, pop some food (sole sushi perhaps?). Keep enlight on. I usually open up with Divine Emblem + flash (w/ crusade on). And rotate spells (flash, jet. and b. gaze - if on /blu, voke if on /war) and JAs (sentinel if for w/e, I lose hate, and shield bash). Pop defender when up. Etc... EDIT: With Karieyh Ring, my atonements are capped at 1778. Asura.Natenn said: » Id get and use the new club from titan first of all, has PDT- and Enmity+6, merit realmrazer which is in my opinion the best PLD WS. Just no one uses because there was no good PLD clubs ever, when sharur first came out it was doing 4~5k on average and this was before ilvl gear. my item sets if you look em up are pretty up to date - new stuff from dec 9th update (i'll go look at em and update now if they arent updated) any specific questions ask away. Also you should put Fast cast gear in for any spells you cast bar enhancing spells like phalanx etc, then haste/enmity. For cures get that cure pot gear and self cure gear, dont need to be perfect but make it so u put HP+ gear on and enmity+ when you cure yourself. Asura.Loire said: » Asura.Natenn said: » Id get and use the new club from titan first of all, has PDT- and Enmity+6, merit realmrazer which is in my opinion the best PLD WS. Just no one uses because there was no good PLD clubs ever, when sharur first came out it was doing 4~5k on average and this was before ilvl gear. my item sets if you look em up are pretty up to date - new stuff from dec 9th update (i'll go look at em and update now if they arent updated) any specific questions ask away. Also you should put Fast cast gear in for any spells you cast bar enhancing spells like phalanx etc, then haste/enmity. For cures get that cure pot gear and self cure gear, dont need to be perfect but make it so u put HP+ gear on and enmity+ when you cure yourself. Missing a few acc isnt making or breaking a set either. Helm from Head wind helm, Supershear/Patricius, belt from incursion all i left out but thats just me. How is my acc set "well under being optimized"? Not that you would know cause you don't know crap and you just hating
Riiiiight I'll assume you've never touched a spreadsheet so you can go about your ignorance if want.
Asura.Loire said: » Riiiiight I'll assume you've never touched a spreadsheet so you can go about your ignorance if want. lol
Stop Shiva.Eightball
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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/31068-Elements-to-be-Implemented-in-the-March-27th-Version-Update?p=407868#post407868
http://kanican.livejournal.com/tag/enmity%20testing%21 if you would be so kind as to read the links i provided i can put this in a language you can understand. i am going to use the modifiers from 75 since he didn't test after cap raise but it will still illustrate the point you don't seem to get about healing for hate. if you were to cure for 500 hp you would have gotten 2180 VE and 363.5 CE very nice enmity numbers right? ok well "now" that same cure would net you 654 VE and 109 CE all for 88 mp you could cast blank gaze 3 times and have mp left over (25 MP cost) and get 960 VE/CE and build more CE per spell than cure 4 and assuming by his model enmity modifiers for cure go down with higher lvls the real values are likely even smaller. curing for hate is not worth your time/mp Shiva.Eightball said: » sry first 1 went wrong place gotta find it again. http://kanican.livejournal.com/tag/enmity%20testing%21 if you would be so kind as to read the links i provided i can put this in a language you can understand. i am going to use the modifiers from 75 since he didn't test after cap raise but it will still illustrate the point you don't seem to get about healing for hate. if you were to cure for 500 hp you would have gotten 2180 VE and 363.5 CE very nice enmity numbers right? ok well "now" that same cure would net you 654 VE and 109 CE all for 88 mp you could cast blank gaze 3 times and have mp left over (25 MP cost) and get 960 VE/CE and build more CE per spell than cure 4 and assuming by his model enmity modifiers for cure go down with higher lvls the real values are likely even smaller. curing for hate is not worth your time/mp Shiva.Eightball
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so you are saying you spam cure 1 to keep hate?
Asura.Loire said: » Acc set havn't really looked into unity stuff yet so missed the 21 accmantle, acc set your not capped haste(unless you have ionis) and use burmete, more acc. Neck yea havn't gotten it since theres no real content i need that much acc for for that cost. thought we were arguing about curing for hate? Ares are worse than Cizin, eje is worse than xaddi. Buremete aren't worth the loss of deff and -pdt for content you need that acc for and can stick in agitator's if you are worried as well.
Asura.Natenn said: » Shiva.Eightball said: » sry first 1 went wrong place gotta find it again. http://kanican.livejournal.com/tag/enmity%20testing%21 if you would be so kind as to read the links i provided i can put this in a language you can understand. i am going to use the modifiers from 75 since he didn't test after cap raise but it will still illustrate the point you don't seem to get about healing for hate. if you were to cure for 500 hp you would have gotten 2180 VE and 363.5 CE very nice enmity numbers right? ok well "now" that same cure would net you 654 VE and 109 CE all for 88 mp you could cast blank gaze 3 times and have mp left over (25 MP cost) and get 960 VE/CE and build more CE per spell than cure 4 and assuming by his model enmity modifiers for cure go down with higher lvls the real values are likely even smaller. curing for hate is not worth your time/mp So will swinging your weapon, which comes with the added benefit of not being a waste of time Shiva.Eightball said: » http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/31068-Elements-to-be-Implemented-in-the-March-27th-Version-Update?p=407868#post407868 http://kanican.livejournal.com/tag/enmity%20testing%21 if you would be so kind as to read the links i provided i can put this in a language you can understand. i am going to use the modifiers from 75 since he didn't test after cap raise but it will still illustrate the point you don't seem to get about healing for hate. if you were to cure for 500 hp you would have gotten 2180 VE and 363.5 CE very nice enmity numbers right? ok well "now" that same cure would net you 654 VE and 109 CE all for 88 mp you could cast blank gaze 3 times and have mp left over (25 MP cost) and get 960 VE/CE and build more CE per spell than cure 4 and assuming by his model enmity modifiers for cure go down with higher lvls the real values are likely even smaller. curing for hate is not worth your time/mp Shiva.Eightball
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Leviathan.Kaparu said: » Asura.Natenn said: » Shiva.Eightball said: » sry first 1 went wrong place gotta find it again. http://kanican.livejournal.com/tag/enmity%20testing%21 if you would be so kind as to read the links i provided i can put this in a language you can understand. i am going to use the modifiers from 75 since he didn't test after cap raise but it will still illustrate the point you don't seem to get about healing for hate. if you were to cure for 500 hp you would have gotten 2180 VE and 363.5 CE very nice enmity numbers right? ok well "now" that same cure would net you 654 VE and 109 CE all for 88 mp you could cast blank gaze 3 times and have mp left over (25 MP cost) and get 960 VE/CE and build more CE per spell than cure 4 and assuming by his model enmity modifiers for cure go down with higher lvls the real values are likely even smaller. curing for hate is not worth your time/mp So will swinging your weapon, which comes with the added benefit of not being a waste of time ^^^^ this is my point exactly ^^^^ |
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