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 Odin.Jassik
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-11-10 23:30:35
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Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
He does have a point, though. You can't really say that a piece of gear is irrelevant because you can cheat and not need it. "you don't need movement speed gear to kite, just use clipper", etc.

You CAN, and (we) are. After seeing what square did about salvage billions, if you don't cheat now... well... You can have your moral high ground etc.

Who kites anything anyway? When's the last time kiting something was a viable strategy? The only thing moving fast does is let you get to your objective 10 seconds faster.

Can't lie though, it is fun to turn it up fast enough to outrun TP moves.

So, you're saying that because there are no consequences or few that recommending third party tools is a valid alternative to actually playing the game?

Nobody kites anything unless they are soloing, that wasn't the point. The point is that game mechanics are the basis for the game, if you're circumventing them, you aren't playing the game. If that's the way you choose to play, who cares, but saying that movement gear is useless because you can just flee hack is stupid.

It's not about moral highground, I could care less what you or others do, and I don't play 100% legit, either. Just stop pretending that 3rd party tools are valid advice for every decision that others make.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-11-10 23:30:58
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The party thing SEEMS to be alleviated by not having an alliance.

If you're in an alli, it *** up constantly, but if you completely break alli, and party, then invite 5 people it works pretty well.

We were joking about it all night, lol'd quite a bit, it takes actual talent at Square to *** something up that bad, I must say I was impressed.
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-11-10 23:31:06
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Cerberus.Makira said: »
Anyone else having really bad party issues? We can get 4, maybe 5 people in a party and then the 6th either just can't be invited, or they magically go into their own alliance. Shutting down and rebooting seems to avoid the alliance thing... but then we can still only make a max PT of 5.

Yup, happened to us. We would invite someone and they would get put into a third party, by themselves, with no Yellow Dot to indicate them being a party leader
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By Brolli 2014-11-11 09:49:47
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Please Chuyula gtfo with your lies, 99% of the N/A pc players do use windower and third party tools in some ways. Unless you're an xbox user.. There's no need to pretend to be a a legit virginal pc player, idk why people bring the "cheat subject" like a good thing in order to shame people. That doesn't work
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-11-11 09:56:55
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Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Worth noting that this is a particularly bad strategy for a tank if you're using a tank+RNG strategy, since the RNGs need to line up behind the tank for Decoy Shot.
I didn't talk about any strategy, just responded to the question 'how do you avoid knockback'.
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-11-11 11:02:54
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Anyone figure out what the special prize thing from this Event is? The site says something super special if you get enough of the goodie bags.
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2014-11-11 12:31:35
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Worth noting that this is a particularly bad strategy for a tank if you're using a tank+RNG strategy, since the RNGs need to line up behind the tank for Decoy Shot.
I didn't talk about any strategy, just responded to the question 'how do you avoid knockback'.

And you weren't wrong. But I thought it was worth elaborating on when the (perfectly true) method you mentioned is not a very good tanking solution in the very common tank+RNG setup, since the whole discussion is in the context of a ring that's obviously of interest to tanks.

And again, Vocane Ring still sucks.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-11-11 12:42:01
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Has anyone noticed anything good coming from WKRs with the new campaign?
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By gdiShun 2014-11-11 12:44:53
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Has anyone noticed anything good coming from WKRs with the new campaign?

Think it just decreased pop time and KI cost.

EDIT: Nevermind. "Special rewards will be added on top of the existing ones." http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/13261/detail.html
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By fractalvoid 2014-11-11 12:49:35
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I got 2 HP bayld before from a WKR. Seems like they added another drop slot, but who knows what the pool actually consists of
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By Ragnarok.Dragish 2014-11-11 12:51:46
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anyone else getting Error Code: FFXI-3305 ?
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By fractalvoid 2014-11-11 12:53:39
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Ragnarok.Dragish said: »
anyone else getting Error Code: FFXI-3305 ?

Yup. Am also on Ragnarok.
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By gdiShun 2014-11-11 13:33:00
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I got a Faithful Legs IV and Airlixir +1(2 chars) from Shark WKR just now. So I'm guessing it's kind of like the Adoulin box.
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By Pantafernando 2014-11-11 13:36:28
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Meh.
And here i go disapointed hmp could drop from wk.
Actually, every update people stop spamming vw to do new stuff, and hmp market reduces a lot till people get bored of new content and restart spamming vw.
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2014-11-11 13:37:05
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Kupon-Abs from meeble worms @_@, free Aureole for me!
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By Pantafernando 2014-11-11 17:22:40
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Lemme tell you...
The wk rewards are very good. I did a few rounds with mule, got 2 airlixir +2, 1 faithful legs v,2 rakznar visage iv and one faithful legs iii in special slot.
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By Chyula 2014-11-11 18:12:04
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Those are ***reward, I would rather have them put HMP in there.
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By Pantafernando 2014-11-11 18:24:00
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Yes, though i got cash to buy more than a single hmp, the problem is always hmp supply.
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By Bahamut.Greebo 2014-11-11 19:06:03
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Has anyone noticed anything good coming from WKRs with the new campaign?

I only got to do 1 last night after work, but I got a Ra'Kaznar V visage, so not shabby.
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2014-11-12 03:34:18
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You can get Delve boss materials from their respective WKRs. If you're looking for HMPs, do Meeble Burrows since right now you can go an unlimited amount of times and the worms can be exchanged for a lot of decent stuff.

Odin.Vasche said: »
Has anyone found the NM pop area in Woh Gates? I spent about an hour combing the zone but didn't find anything. Someone mentioned Hippogryphs, but I didnt see anything.
Go to Marjami station #3 and head towards F-11 (gotta climb up a vine to get to this spot). There's a ??? that you can use if you've killed Hurkan at least once ever, and that'll take you to a new section of Woh Gates, where it's all VT-IT crap, including some Hippogryphs. If you're lucky, they can drop a rare/ex feather which is the pop item for the NM, which the ??? to spawn is supposed to be in the SW corner of this map. Been messing around here solo, haven't seen the rare/ex feather drop, so I can't say anything about the NM, though my logic is that he probably drops the new Highwing Helm.
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By Cheatyface 2014-11-12 03:54:26
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Square snuck in the home point in Leafallia without any mention in the patch notes, so it got me wondering if they added anything else.

No more home points beyond that, but they added 27 new survival guides. If anyone cares, this is a list I've compiled~

fort ghelsba (ghelsba outpost entrance)
king ranperre's tomb (ronfaure entrance)
konschtat (valkurm entrance)
gusgen (konschtat entrance)
la thiene (jugner entrance)
ordelle (map 1 G-3)
batallia (maw)
davoi (goblin)
dangruf wadi (south gustaberg entrance)
korroloka (east altepa entrance)
rolanberry (maw)
beadeaux (goblin)
inner horutoto (lily tower)
tahrongi canyon (meriphataud entrance)
maze of shakrami (tahrongi entrance)
labyrinth of onzozo
sauromugue champaign (maw)
castle oztroja (goblin)
ranguemont pass (east ronfaure entrance)
castle zvahl baileys (goblin)
lower delkfutt's tower (qufim entrance)
ro'maeve (hall of the gods entrance)
west altepa (east altepa entrance -north side)
kuftal tunnel (west altepa entrance)
gustav tunnel (valkurm entrance)
sea serpent grotto (yuhtunga entrance)
uggalepih (map 1 F-6)
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By Fenrir.Nauta 2014-11-12 07:42:14
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Has anyone noticed anything good coming from WKRs with the new campaign?

Just got a bztavian stinger from bee wkr
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-11-12 08:07:12
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did all 6 with 9 chars(so 54 reward pools)

didn't see anything great

36 single H-P bayld
2 bayld boxes
2 airlixir +2
1 waktza rostrum
1 cehuetzi pelt

didn't count/save skirmish pieces but seemed to be more than usual
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2014-11-12 08:21:05
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speaking of WKR, have you always been able to outside party cure 20+ people with a single curaga if you target it onto one of your trusts?
I engaged, swung at bee once so trust would stay put next to the naakaul, then backed off and just curaga bombed the trust to heal *everyone*
That's some serious mp efficiency.

Everything but Icelion and Tree dies super fast now, always getting 5-6 drops, 2 of which are usually HP Bayld. Got a rockfin tooth from Tchakka (5 wkr runs total).
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By Lakshmi.Amymy 2014-11-12 08:25:38
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Anything good with update equipment and items? Too lazy to check or compare.
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2014-11-12 08:39:06
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Where does the sangarius sword come from ?, i've asked in unity chat etc and noone knows.
I haven't done lumber jill yet but I noticed that the npc wants trophy drops from that NM to +1 the nq so I guess that's the one?
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By Valefor.Seranos 2014-11-12 08:47:44
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Lakshmi.Amymy said: »
Anything good with update equipment and items? Too lazy to check or compare.

Yes, but too lazy to write out which ones.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-11-12 08:50:09
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Valefor.Seranos said: »
Lakshmi.Amymy said: »
Anything good with update equipment and items? Too lazy to check or compare.

Yes, but too lazy to write out which ones.
I'm too lazy to read what you write out also.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2014-11-12 09:06:30
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Anyone remember exactly where the crystal structure in Marjami Ravine is? I heard H-11, but I searched all over that square and didn't see it. Did I miss something subtle?
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