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Aegis Upgrade
 Fenrir.Bricent
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By Fenrir.Bricent 2014-03-23 14:31:31
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Anyone know if Aegis can be upgraded to 119 yet?
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By Cerberus.Fiasko 2014-03-23 14:33:25
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By Siren.Finality 2014-03-23 14:42:48
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(Pretty sure I'm not making this up) One of the developers commented about this when ilvl 1st came out. The way ilevel is calculated, Aegis and Ochain are WAY strong, I seem to remember they said ilvl 150 or something. Shields will not be receiving upgrades any time soon.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2014-03-23 15:04:26
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Siren.Finality said: »
(Pretty sure I'm not making this up) One of the developers commented about this when ilvl 1st came out. The way ilevel is calculated, Aegis and Ochain are WAY strong, I seem to remember they said ilvl 150 or something. Shields will not be receiving upgrades any time soon.

That would be from this post. Which doesn't mention Aegis at all.

Akihiko_Matsui said:
If we were to convert the block rate of Ochain into terms of item level, it would just about be item level 150.
Note that he said the Block Rate of Ochain. Considering the strength of current 119 shields, a real ilvl 150 shield would crush Ochain.

Anyway, pardon the partial derail. Getting back on track, SE stated that shields and instruments weren't getting ilvl upgrades. Unfortunately, I don't have a link to that post.
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By Ifrit.Showmo 2014-03-25 22:03:24
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Aegis desperately needs the upgrade if you ask me. Not for any added effects or extra MDT, but for the shield skill+ you miss out on that you would otherwise gain from going Lv.99 -> Lv.119. Just looking at the Eminent weapons, they give combat skill+203 and are regarded as iLv.117 equipment pieces. 424 + 203 gives us an A+ skill of 627 for Lv.117.

If we assume Lv.117 mobs have 627 skill also and factoring in our 424 + 8 merits shield skill (432), and if the proposed shield skill formula is at least half-accurate:
Ifrit.Showmo said: »
ShieldBaseRate + (ShieldSkill - MobCombatSkill) * SkillModifier
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From what I remember during my testing, the shield base rates I found were:
Aegis: 50%
Size 3: 45%
Size 4: 30%

Going off of Martel's Ochain block rate data, Ochain's base can be anywhere from 105% to 110%
Ifrit.Showmo said: »
The average SkillModifier seemed to be around 0.22-0.2325
50% + (432 - 627) * 0.2325
50% + (-195) * 0.2325
50% + -45.3375%
4.66%

From past tests, block rate was shown to have a floor cap of 5%. So yeah, it looks like we're jumping into Lv.117+ content with a floored 5% block rate if we're using Aegis. Ochain should calculate somewhere around 59.66% - 64.66% block rate.
Now unless I'm missing something (such as average level of equipment adding hidden skill or block rate), I believe Aegis and Ochain deserve their respective reforged trials to at least give them the skill they're so desperately lacking from the iLv jump.
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