Looking for the PROs and CONs of each, DoT for high/low end events, when would one prevail over the other etc. Basically, if I'm going to make a mythic, I want to make sure it's worth the gil I'm investing into it. Fun factor also included.
Just trying to get a better understanding overall. Numbers would be cool if they can be provided.
Liberator Vs. Conqueror
Liberator vs. Conqueror
Asura.Draus said: »
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Do you want to liberate your adversary from its mortal chains or do you want to conqueror it with brute force.
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We need a mythic guide like for relics.
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A lot harder to fish those up
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volkom said: »
Do you want to liberate your adversary from its mortal chains or do you want to conqueror it with brute force.
(MS + Upheaval) vs. (More frequent SE)?
volkom said: »
Do you want to liberate your adversary from its mortal chains or do you want to conqueror it with brute force.
The concept of liberating foes from their mortal chains looks very interesting.
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Lakshmi.Neboh said: »
volkom said: »
Do you want to liberate your adversary from its mortal chains or do you want to conqueror it with brute force.
(MS + Upheaval) vs. (More frequent SE)?
not exactly sure what the bonus is to the absorb spells on liberator is.
but I always thought that liberator 99 was the best weapon for drk?
/shrug~ since you're posting in the drk forums~ i'ma be biased and say liberator > conqueror !
From what I've seen in VW, it doesn't pull too far ahead from a good Rag DRK sadly. Have yet to see it in action in Legion.
Posted in DRK forums cuz I play it more than any other job.
Posted in DRK forums cuz I play it more than any other job.
BG has Liberator giving Absorb spells a 50% Potency, and 30% damage increase to Insurgency.
Still, pretty hard to beat Ragnarok for all out damage, with Resolution and whatnot.
I'd say Conqueror.
Still, pretty hard to beat Ragnarok for all out damage, with Resolution and whatnot.
I'd say Conqueror.
Yeah I'm hearing conqueror hands down also for brute damage. But but I love DRK! I needs justification. >.<
If you're looking for justification to make a Liberator, here it is:
I love Dark Knight, and i want a Liberator. End of Story.
I love Dark Knight, and i want a Liberator. End of Story.
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If you want to be a badass with a scythe
or if you want to execute enemies:
or be like darius from LoL
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or if you want to execute enemies:
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or be like darius from LoL
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If you love drk, apoc and rag are probably doing more for you 99% of the time in their respective roles. And you could have both for less than liberator. Conq is really about as good as you can do for war outside Abby.
Odin.Jassik said: »
If you love drk, apoc and rag are probably doing more for you 99% of the time in their respective roles. And you could have both for less than liberator. Conq is really about as good as you can do for war outside Abby.
Again I don't know how Liberator/Conqueror fares in higher-end events (i.e Legion).
I don't like to play war so Liberator for me.
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
We need a mythic guide like for relics.
You make mythics for the job you love the most.
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Conq is amazing with mighty strikes and that's why I usually go war.
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Isn't Ragnarok/Resolution spam better with MS than Conq?
Lib on legion is probably one of the most amazing things I have ever seen. You think drk is unstoppable with Rag and Apoc 99? With the potency on drain and other absorb spells you wont need the cures from cata... Honestly the way I look at it is Lib is just a sick way of combining the two weapons that make DRK so unique. On the off hand Libs Oat-trice shits all over rag....
volkom said: »
If you want to be a badass with a scythe
Solegna said: »
Lib on legion is probably one of the most amazing things I have ever seen. You think drk is unstoppable with Rag and Apoc 99? With the potency on drain and other absorb spells you wont need the cures from cata... Honestly the way I look at it is Lib is just a sick way of combining the two weapons that make DRK so unique. On the off hand Libs Oat-trice shits all over rag....
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Solegna said: »
Lib on legion is probably one of the most amazing things I have ever seen. You think drk is unstoppable with Rag and Apoc 99? With the potency on drain and other absorb spells you wont need the cures from cata... Honestly the way I look at it is Lib is just a sick way of combining the two weapons that make DRK so unique. On the off hand Libs Oat-trice shits all over rag....
None of this is really backed up by math..
We were talking specifically about Conqueror as a MS weapon, in which case my comment was directed towards a question of whether it really even beats MS Resolution (which under zerg scenario it likely doesn't due to massive TP generation).
As for a general DD piece, I don't even see Lib beating Ragnarok. Furthermore, if you're stopping to cast drain, you're doing it wrong (from a DD perspective).
Conq doesn't really give you much DD (if any) over Ukon/Rag. Liberator doesn't give you more DD than Rag, and doesn't provide for more Survivability than Apoc..
But I'm happy for someone to correct me (with science!).
Phoenix.Neosutra said: »
Solegna said: »
Lib on legion is probably one of the most amazing things I have ever seen. You think drk is unstoppable with Rag and Apoc 99? With the potency on drain and other absorb spells you wont need the cures from cata... Honestly the way I look at it is Lib is just a sick way of combining the two weapons that make DRK so unique. On the off hand Libs Oat-trice shits all over rag....
It would be interesting to see a mathmatical comparison between rag/reso and conq/upheaval on relevant content, though I would imagine the higher the buffs, the more in favor of rag it would be. Still, thats all WAR related stuff.
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