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 Bismarck.Hsieh
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2012-09-19 14:09:43
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So my ls just started doing Legion and I was wondering if anyone has any experience on DRK with it.

Some questions:
1) Ragnarok or Apoc?
2) PDT full time or switch between TP/WS sets?
3) Perfect Defense and/or Embrava situations.
4) Meds? Reraise? Twilight gear?

Kinda liking the PDT set since the damage intake is around 100 with Catastrophe getting some of the HP back.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-09-19 14:17:04
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1)Our drks use ragnarok.
2)They use tp sets and WS sets normally, although occassionally equip PDT if they feel their life is in mortal danger. We use 3 sch stunners+some smns to completely lock down TP moves and spells.
3) In legion currently every situation should be an embrava situation. Perfect Defense should just make it so you don't even need to worry about PDT.
4) Meds help. personally I'd bring panceas/remedies, and a RR item. If you have tabs you can get at least 1 RR from the groudns of valor book in rolanberry.
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By Leviathan.Hellcatt 2012-09-19 14:21:47
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WAR> DRK in legion with Rag tomahawk rotation helps a lot plus blood rage rotation and MS reso is just freakin broken. dont full time DT gear
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By Shiva.Zykei 2012-09-19 14:30:43
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Odin.Sawtelle said: »
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4) Meds help. personally I'd bring panceas/remedies, and a RR item. If you have tabs you can get at least 1 RR from the groudns of valor book in rolanberry.

This.
Especially for Mul when your stunners miss an all stat down/atk down move on the mantis and naraka.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-09-19 14:30:49
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Is Apoc DRK even worth the DD spot in Legion? (If you wanna beat Mul)
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By Asura.Kese 2012-09-19 14:35:34
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if you are not using pd, apoc can be utilized, and has actually saved us a run when wave2 mantis opened w/ dp. other than that it no, it shouldnt be used.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-09-19 14:38:31
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I think Apoc would work, but I think it depends on what you mean by "beat Mul". Using like Ukon99/Ukon99/Ukon90/masamune99/vere90 we were able to beat gallu and then time out, but since upgrading to ukon99/ukon99+ragna99/ukon90/ragnarok99Drk/ragnarokDrk we have come close to clearing 4th wave before in mul.
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By Lakshmi.Vitali 2012-09-19 14:38:52
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rag is much better than apoc. Our DD are 2 ryu drg, 1 99 brav war, 1 99 ukon war, 1 rag drk. generally either the drk** or one of the drgs will win the parses, though we're all very close, the spread is generally between 18-20%.

You'll need more acc on mul wave 2/3 unless your bard is giving you a madrigal (with all dd using RCB we do minx3 for wave 1, minx2 madrigal for wave 2/3, with chaos/fighters)

PDT is a good idea if you aren't PDing, though it depends on how much damage you are taking (if you have good stuns, etc).

We also make sure our melee bring panceas.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2012-09-19 14:55:50
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Your Ragna DRK must be pretty bad if they're losing to Ryunohige in Mul, just sayin'.

On topic: 99Ukon/99 Ragna WAR ftw.

Ragna DRK is a close second
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By Asura.Kese 2012-09-19 14:57:17
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Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
Your Ragna DRK must be pretty bad if they're losing to Ryunohige in Mul, just sayin'.

On topic: 99Ukon/99 Ragna WAR ftw.
but but its a mythic...
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2012-09-19 14:59:09
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Thanks guys. Sounds like the situations are more dependent on other jobs casting spells and PD rather than a DRK trying to survive on his/her own.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-09-19 15:11:55
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Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
Your Ragna DRK must be pretty bad if they're losing to Ryunohige in Mul, just sayin'.

On topic: 99Ukon/99 Ragna WAR ftw.

Ragna DRK is a close second
DRG/SAM can cap cRatio with full buffs. Not sure about Drakes given the attack penalty, but certainly enough that they're going to keep up with other DDs.
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By Asura.Kese 2012-09-19 15:13:40
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
Your Ragna DRK must be pretty bad if they're losing to Ryunohige in Mul, just sayin'.

On topic: 99Ukon/99 Ragna WAR ftw.

Ragna DRK is a close second
DRG/SAM can cap cRatio with full buffs. Not sure about Drakes given the attack penalty, but certainly enough that they're going to keep up with other DDs.
that may be true for wave one, but when you get to wave 2 and you have 5% crit rate it doesnt really keep up.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-09-19 15:14:35
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They added this cool thing called Stardiver.
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By Asura.Kese 2012-09-19 15:15:13
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wow news to me
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-09-19 15:17:06
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Yeah, it's pretty neat. Not very far behind Resolution and happens to be attached to a strong mythic option due to its job being capable of maintaining that mythic's strongest trait efficiently.

Whoda thought there were DDs other than WAR?
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By Asura.Kese 2012-09-19 15:20:14
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Yeah, it's pretty neat. Not very far behind Resolution and happens to be attached to a strong mythic option due to its job being capable of maintaining that mythic's strongest trait efficiently.

Whoda thought there were DDs other than WAR?
k bro you win, keep winning them mul.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-09-19 15:21:06
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That card doesn't work in the land of mathematics and logical thinking, sorry.
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By Asura.Kese 2012-09-19 15:21:50
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ok, ill just disregard my 20+ muls wins, and take your word for it.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-09-19 15:22:21
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You're more than welcome to argue with Ejin and Martel if you're so inclined.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-09-19 15:23:38
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Could "win" Mul with 5 SAMs, what's your point? Is that like, the new relic syndrome or something?

Ignorance born of refusing to acknowledge the facts is sad.
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By Asura.Kese 2012-09-19 15:24:36
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to hear what? that what I've been doing is wrong? we've tried all different combinations of jobs, doesn't take too many runs to realize what works better than others. all im saying is have fun spamming a weaker ws, while trying to maintain AM3.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-09-19 15:26:10
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The 1.04375 fTP @ 100TP disparity is more than made up for by DRG's OA2-3 on weaponskill and enhanced TP gain. They're as competitive as anything else, though it's sad that they need a mythic to be relevant.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-09-19 15:26:21
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People are still living in the "Its my way or the highway" age where other jobs were disregarded for no reason? Hmm.
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By Asura.Kese 2012-09-19 15:27:41
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
The 1.04375 fTP @ 100TP disparity is more than made up for by DRG's OA2-3 on weaponskill and enhanced TP gain. They're as competitive as anything else, though it's sad that they need a mythic to be relevant.
and you plan on keeping up AM3 how?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-09-19 15:28:51
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Do you know what jumps do
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2012-09-19 15:29:04
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Well Idk about you, but when I want to win something, I would utilize the strongest.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-09-19 15:31:02
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Let's just ignore the successful groups that use Ryunohige DRGs because they're not inside of your sphere then
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-09-19 15:31:08
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Asura.Kese said: »
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
The 1.04375 fTP @ 100TP disparity is more than made up for by DRG's OA2-3 on weaponskill and enhanced TP gain. They're as competitive as anything else, though it's sad that they need a mythic to be relevant.
and you plan on keeping up AM3 how?
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-09-19 15:33:36
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I.. what?

Asura.Kese said: »
to hear what? that what I've been doing is wrong? we've tried all different combinations of jobs, doesn't take too many runs to realize what works better than others.

That might be because not every person is perfect.
Maybe what works best for you is because that's what people do best.
That does'nt mean something else can't have a greater potential, if played correctly.
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