For some reason I can't seem to find what rule I'm missing to get Sneak Attack/Trick Attack/etc to swap back to my TP gear after the buff is used.
The rules I have set for Sneak Attack is as follows, and works great;
<if spell="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="precast|midcast|aftercast" set="SA" />
</if>
<if buffactive="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="precast|midcast|aftercast|idle|engaged" set="SA" />
</if>
I'm sorry if this has been asked before. I couldn't seem to find the answer after searching for the last hour or so.
Thanks.
Spellcast Question
Spellcast Question
<if spell="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="precast|midcast" set="SA" />
</if>
<if buffactive="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="precast|midcast|engaged" set="SA" />
</if>
^ ?
<equip when="precast|midcast" set="SA" />
</if>
<if buffactive="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="precast|midcast|engaged" set="SA" />
</if>
^ ?
you have your 'aftercast' equip set specified as 'SA' so it's going to equip that after SA as well as before, etc.
Cerberus.Milhouse said: »
<if spell="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="precast|midcast" set="SA" />
</if>
<if buffactive="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="precast|midcast|engaged" set="SA" />
</if>
^ ?
<equip when="precast|midcast" set="SA" />
</if>
<if buffactive="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="precast|midcast|engaged" set="SA" />
</if>
^ ?
No dice. Still keeps my SA gear in after the buff wears.
his suggestion doesn't have any impact on aftercast. you need to specify what you want to equip after the cast using 'aftercast'
<if buffactive="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="precast|midcast|engaged" set="SA" />
<equip when="aftercast" set="Melee" />
</if>
?
<equip when="precast|midcast|engaged" set="SA" />
<equip when="aftercast" set="Melee" />
</if>
?
if buffnotactive?
I would think that would work, if buffnotactive SA and engaged then equip your melee set
Phoenix.Suji said: »
yeah, give it a go!
Nothing, same result.
<equip when="engaged" set="tp" />
<if status="idle">
<equip when="aftercast" set="idle" />
</if>
<if status="engaged">
<equip when="aftercast" set="tp" />
</if>
<if spell="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="precast|midcast" set="SA" />
</if>
<if buffactive="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="precast|midcast|engaged" set="SA" />
</if>
?
i cant test it rn but im sure its among these lines
<if status="idle">
<equip when="aftercast" set="idle" />
</if>
<if status="engaged">
<equip when="aftercast" set="tp" />
</if>
<if spell="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="precast|midcast" set="SA" />
</if>
<if buffactive="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="precast|midcast|engaged" set="SA" />
</if>
?
i cant test it rn but im sure its among these lines
mortontony1 said: »
I would think that would work, if buffnotactive SA and engaged then equip your melee set
Silly question, how would I write it?
I've tried,
<if buffnotactive="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="engaged" set="melee" />
</if>
As soon as I use Sneak Attack and engage, it throws on my TP gear with Sneak Attack still active.
This is what I use, when you use Sneak Attack while engaged, it'll swap you to SA gear for 5 seconds, after that it'll put you back into your TP set. Same for TA.
If you use SA/TA before you engage, it won't put on your SA/TA gear, for that you'd need something like...
Code
<equip when="Idle|aftercast" set="Idle" />
<equip when="engaged|aftercast" set="TPSet" />
<if Spell="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="precast|midcast" set="SA" />
<aftercastdelay delay="5.0" />
</if>
<if Spell="Trick Attack">
<equip when="precast|midcast" set="TA" />
<aftercastdelay delay="5.0" />
</if>
If you use SA/TA before you engage, it won't put on your SA/TA gear, for that you'd need something like...
Code
<if buffactive="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="engaged|aftercast" set="SA" />
</if>
<elseif buffactive="Trick Attack">
<equip when="engaged|aftercast" set="TA" />
</elseif>
<else>
<equip when="engaged|aftercast" set="TPSet" />
</else>
Ashandarei said: »
This is what I use, when you use Sneak Attack while engaged, it'll swap you to SA gear for 5 seconds, after that it'll put you back into your TP set. Same for TA.
If you use SA/TA before you engage, it won't put on your SA/TA gear, for that you'd need something like...
Code
<equip when="Idle|aftercast" set="Idle" />
<equip when="engaged|aftercast" set="TPSet" />
<if Spell="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="precast|midcast" set="SA" />
<aftercastdelay delay="5.0" />
</if>
<if Spell="Trick Attack">
<equip when="precast|midcast" set="TA" />
<aftercastdelay delay="5.0" />
</if>
If you use SA/TA before you engage, it won't put on your SA/TA gear, for that you'd need something like...
Code
<if buffactive="Sneak Attack">
<equip when="engaged|aftercast" set="SA" />
</if>
<elseif buffactive="Trick Attack">
<equip when="engaged|aftercast" set="TA" />
</elseif>
<else>
<equip when="engaged|aftercast" set="TPSet" />
</else>The aftercast delay works beautifully, the bottom <else> rule doesn't seem to kick in.
I will continue to play with it. Thanks for the information.
Spellcast doesn't (to my knowledge) do things upon losing a buff. Autoexec (another windower plugin) does. I use the below autoexec rules to swap to my $melee set upon losing SA or TA:
Code
autoexec register losebuff_Sneak_Attack sc set $melee autoexec register losebuff_Trick_Attack sc set $melee
sorry, I was responding while on the phone earlier and gave you bad advice. any of the "wait X seconds after SA/TA to equip aftercast" type of rules are probably going to screw you at one point or another, though.
I use Motenten's XML which handles these cases nicely (without using autoexec) but it's also fairly complicated. He uses a variable toggle that controls whether to apply aftercast and through this mechanism aftercast is disabled whenever SA or TA are active. It would be pretty tough to write something similar on your own, assuming you don't want to use Motenten's, so I think Stani's suggestion of using autoexec to deal with re-equipping your TP set when the buff wears is probably the simplest to get working cleanly.
You can find the XML I referred to here:
http://pastebin.com/u/Motenten
I use Motenten's XML which handles these cases nicely (without using autoexec) but it's also fairly complicated. He uses a variable toggle that controls whether to apply aftercast and through this mechanism aftercast is disabled whenever SA or TA are active. It would be pretty tough to write something similar on your own, assuming you don't want to use Motenten's, so I think Stani's suggestion of using autoexec to deal with re-equipping your TP set when the buff wears is probably the simplest to get working cleanly.
You can find the XML I referred to here:
http://pastebin.com/u/Motenten
I use Ash's XML and it works perfectly. The time allotted is plenty and switches back flawlessly. You can always make a macro with dia or box step etc to trigger gear swaps with any xml, typically.
Phoenix.Seshat said: »
I use Ash's XML and it works perfectly. The time allotted is plenty and switches back flawlessly. You can always make a macro with dia or box step etc to trigger gear swaps with any xml, typically.
I'm not trying to diss Ash's suggestion here, it's simple and easy to understand which is preferable for some folks. In general, the more you want to handle edge cases, the more complex it's going.
Phoenix.Seshat said: »
I use Ash's XML and it works perfectly. The time allotted is plenty and switches back flawlessly. You can always make a macro with dia or box step etc to trigger gear swaps with any xml, typically.
An intriguing use of both 'perfect' and 'flawless'. Your business, I suppose.
Bismarck.Stani said: »
Spellcast doesn't (to my knowledge) do things upon losing a buff. Autoexec (another windower plugin) does. I use the below autoexec rules to swap to my $melee set upon losing SA or TA:
Code
autoexec register losebuff_Sneak_Attack sc set $melee autoexec register losebuff_Trick_Attack sc set $melee
So, I have autoexec loaded, and the xml open. Do I just copy and paste those rules into the xml? Also, do I need to add anything into my THF.xml for Spellcast to parse the rule?
Totally virgin to autoexec here. Thanks for the help.
Considering the fact that everything I do is with 2+ people in game I've never had to hold SA for a double on Bully. So, yes, for me it works perfectly. In most situations that I'm in it works as intended.
But, as you said, it depends on how complex things become and how intricate you plan to be. In order to be prepared for every single possible situation out there, its not the best in any case, no. For that you'd need something more specific to get down to the wire.
So, for me it works well. If you're looking for something more intense with specifics for every millisecond, no, its not going to work for you.
But, as you said, it depends on how complex things become and how intricate you plan to be. In order to be prepared for every single possible situation out there, its not the best in any case, no. For that you'd need something more specific to get down to the wire.
So, for me it works well. If you're looking for something more intense with specifics for every millisecond, no, its not going to work for you.
I wanted to thank everyone for their help. I did some more poking around and was able to get it to work the way I wanted it to. If anyone was interested without having to do too much work, this is what the final result looks like;
Spellcast
Autoexec
Love it. Thanks again.
Spellcast
Code
<if spell="Sneak Attack"> <equip when="precast|midcast|aftercast" set="SA" /> </if> <if spell="Trick Attack"> <equip when="precast|midcast|aftercast" set="TA" /> </if> <if buffactive="Sneak Attack"> <equip when="precast|midcast|aftercast|idle|engaged" set="SA" /> </if> <elseif buffactive="Trick Attack"> <equip when="precast|midcast|aftercast|idle|engaged" set="TA" /> </elseif>
Autoexec
Code
<autoexec> <register event="losebuff_Sneak_Attack">sc set Melee</register> <register event="losebuff_Trick_Attack">sc set Melee</register> </autoexec>
Love it. Thanks again.
I use autoexec for my SA/TA rules.
My XML - pastebin.com/u/Esvedium
Be sure to read the notes for the thf xml, too. Gear in that is completely not up to date, but the rules work.
Re Ash's: Sometimes 5 seconds is too long, and you end up doing another attack round in your SA/TA/whatever gear. My spellcast/autoexec rules will swap to TP set .2 seconds after you lose the SA/TA buff, so you won't get another attack round off in SA/TA gear.
My XML - pastebin.com/u/Esvedium
Be sure to read the notes for the thf xml, too. Gear in that is completely not up to date, but the rules work.
Re Ash's: Sometimes 5 seconds is too long, and you end up doing another attack round in your SA/TA/whatever gear. My spellcast/autoexec rules will swap to TP set .2 seconds after you lose the SA/TA buff, so you won't get another attack round off in SA/TA gear.
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