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By Siren.Sugarpanda 2012-06-28 04:49:59
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Hi fellow whitemages :)

Does anyone know if cure spell casting time has a cap?
I am at 48% from gear plus I have full merits on it as well and I was thinking if that is over kill.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-06-28 04:57:39
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I'll assume it caps same as fast cast, which caps at 80% total -casting time now, also Hii!! :D

Edit: But well, if you reach 80% it might cast too fast for spellcast to properly equp precast-midcast gear, just keep that in mind :p
50-60% seems to work very well for me
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By Siren.Sugarpanda 2012-06-28 05:23:06
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Hi Kvazz :D :D :D
56-60% o.O - Can you show me what gear you have on your sets? I would love to see - I am trying to make the best whm evah! :D
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-06-28 05:28:30
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The issue with going too high on -casting time is that it will not be possible, through your own reactions or those of a script like Spellcast, to swap into potency gear before the spell launches. It may not cap until a higher point, but to be honest the real cap is however fast you can push it to until the spell loses a large amount of power from not being capable of swapping into potency gear.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-06-28 05:48:53
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50-60% total -casting time*

20% from merits
10% from light arts
10% from nq fake-akvan body
10% from nares cap
12% from orison legs +2
2% from loq earring
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By Dantedmc 2012-06-28 05:59:15
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main / sub:
either genbu(up to 8%) + vejovis wantd (3%) 10%, or the magian staff with 14%
neck: orison locket 5% or aceso's
ammo: incantor stone 2%
head: nares 10%
body heka's 15%
ear: loq 2%
ring: prolix 2%
cape: swithe 3%
belt: witful 3%
legs: orison 12%
feet: cure clogs 15%
20% merits
= 99 - 108% from gear and merits total if I did my math right


There is also LA 10% (multiplicative I think) from sch or 15% fc from RDM

The cap is only 80% though
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By Phoenix.Seshat 2012-06-28 05:59:19
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72~76 seems to be just right, with the rare off chance that it misses the gear swap. If counting fast cast into your pre-cast cure set, which I personally do.

20% from merits, 10% from light arts, 15% from Heka's, 12% from Orison +2 legs, 2% loq, 2% Prolix, 15% Cure clogs - Nets 76 which is right in what I call my sweet spot.

If I push it higher it tends to not swap. It depends on prefence - some people prefer a weaker cure to go off faster for the *potential* to save a life, but 74-80 isn't going to be a huge difference except dropping a 1k+ cure 4 down to 700-800 based on what gear managed to change. In VW if not using clusters that 800 is a typical TP move when procs are lacking/fana's are down - so up to you. :)

Edited because I forgot something. D:
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By Siren.Sugarpanda 2012-06-28 06:05:24
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Yeaaaaah, I think I am fine.
I didnt actually think about fast cast when I was looking at cure spell cast -...
Cos I have Witful Belt, Swith Cape and Loq.earring as well ...

I guess next thing I try to get is MND gear. My cure potency already is ott -.-

Anyone have a decent spellcast that I could abuse?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-06-28 06:08:21
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This one works alright... I compiled it at 6AM in about 10 minutes and only use the job once every 6 Harvest Moons, so you may want to find a better one, but it does whatever you'll need it to aside from swap for Light Obi and uh... probably something that a hardcore WHM will be able to point out.
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<?xml version="1.0" ?>

<spellcast>
	
<config debug="false" requiredversion="2.17"/>

<sets>

	<group name="White Mage|WHM" default="yes">
		<set name="Idle">
			<main>Terra's Staff</main>
			<sub>Verse strap +1</sub>
			<head>Nefer khat</head>
			<neck>Twilight Torque</neck>
			<lear>Ethereal earring</lear>
			<rear>Novia earring</rear>
			<body>Heka's kalasiris</body>
			<hands>Serpentes cuffs</hands>
			<lring>Dark Ring</lring>
			<rring>Dark Ring</rring>
			<back>Umbra Cape</back>
			<waist>Pythia sash +1</waist>
			<legs>Orison pantaloons +2</legs>
			<feet>Serpentes Sabots</feet>
			<ammo>Leisure Musk</ammo>
		</set>

		<set name="hMP">
			<main>Pluto's Staff</main>
			<head>Mirror Tiara</head>
			<neck>Eidolon pendant</neck>
			<rear>Antivenom earring</rear>
			<body>Orison bliaud +2</body>
			<hands>Nares cuffs</hands>
			<lring>Star ring</lring>
			<rring>Star Ring</rring>
			<back>Felicitas cape</back>
			<waist>Austerity belt</waist>
			<legs>Nisse slacks</legs>
			<feet>Lore Sabots</feet>
		</set>

		<set name="Cure4">
			<main>Arka IV</main>
			<sub>Verse strap +1</sub>
			<head>Orison cap +2</head>
			<neck>Fylgja torque +1</neck>
			<lear>Orison earring</lear>
			<rear>Roundel earring</rear>
			<body>Orison bliaud +2</body>
			<hands>Augur's Gloves</hands>
			<lring>Metanoia Ring</lring>
			<rring>Sirona's Ring</rring>
			<back>Orison Cape</back>
			<waist>Pythia sash +1</waist>
			<legs>Orison pantaloons +2</legs>
			<feet>Blessed pumps</feet>
			<ammo>Leisure musk</ammo>
		</set>

		<set name="Cure5">
			<main>Arka IV</main>
			<sub>Verse strap +1</sub>
			<head>Orison cap +2</head>
			<neck>Fylgja torque +1</neck>
			<lear>Orison earring</lear>
			<rear>Roundel earring</rear>
			<body>Orison bliaud +2</body>
			<hands>Augur's Gloves</hands>
			<lring>Sirona's Ring</lring>
			<rring>Aquasoul Ring</rring>
			<back>Orison Cape</back>
			<waist>Pythia sash +1</waist>
			<legs>Orison pantaloons +2</legs>
			<feet>Orison duckbills +1</feet>
			<ammo>Incantor stone</ammo>
		</set>

		<set name="Barspells">
			<head>Orison cap +2</head>
			<neck>Enhancing torque</neck>
			<body>Orison bliaud +2</body>
			<hands>Augur's gloves</hands>
			<waist>Cascade belt</waist>
			<legs>Portent pants</legs>
			<feet>Orison duckbills +1</feet>
			<sub>Fulcio grip</sub>
		</set>

		<set name="Boosts">			
			<neck>Enhancing torque</neck>
			<hands>Augur's gloves</hands>
			<waist>Cascade belt</waist>
			<legs>Portent pants</legs>
			<feet>Orison duckbills +1</feet>
			<sub>Fulcio grip</sub>
		</set>

		<set name="Stoneskin">
			<head>Orison cap +2</head>
			<neck>Stone gorget</neck>
			<lear>Star earring</lear>
			<rear>Star earring</rear>
			<body>Heka's kalasiris</body>
			<hands>Augur's Gloves</hands>
			<lring>Aquasoul Ring</lring>
			<rring>Aquasoul Ring</rring>
			<back>Sunbeam Cape</back>
			<waist>Siegel sash</waist>
			<legs>Haven hose</legs>
			<feet>Orison duckbills +1</feet>
			<ammo>Aqua Sachet</ammo>
		</set>

		<set name="Regen">
			<head>Zelus Tiara</head>
			<neck>Orison Locket</neck>
			<body>Cleric's Briault</body>
			<hands>Blessed Mitts</hands>
			<legs>Blessed Trousers</legs>
			<feet>Blessed Pumps</feet>
			<waist>Swift belt</waist>
		</set>

		<set name="MND Enfeebles">
			<head>Orison cap +2</head>
			<neck>Aife's medal</neck>
			<lear>Star earring</lear>
			<rear>Star earring</rear>
			<body>Heka's kalasiris</body>
			<hands>Augur's Gloves</hands>
			<lring>Aquasoul Ring</lring>
			<rring>Aquasoul Ring</rring>
			<back>Sunbeam Cape</back>
			<waist>Pythia sash +1</waist>
			<legs>Mahatma Slops</legs>
			<feet>Orison duckbills +1</feet>
		</set>

		<set name="Fast cast">
			<neck>Orison Locket</neck>
			<lear>Loquacious earring</lear>
			<body>Heka's kalasiris</body>
			<legs>Praeco slacks</legs>
			<feet>Cure clogs</feet>
			<ammo>Incantor stone</ammo>
			<back>Swith cape</back>
			<waist>Witful belt</waist>
		</set>

		<set name="Haste">
			<head>Zelus Tiara</head>
			<neck>Orison Locket</neck>
			<hands>Blessed Mitts</hands>
			<legs>Blessed Trousers</legs>
			<feet>Blessed Pumps</feet>
			<waist>Witful belt</waist>
			<lring>Sheltered ring</lring>
		</set>

		<set name="Status Removal">
			<head>Orison cap +2</head>
			<neck>Orison Locket</neck>
			<hands>Blessed Mitts</hands>
			<legs>Blessed Trousers</legs>
			<feet>Blessed Pumps</feet>
			<waist>Witful belt</waist>
		</set>
		
		<set name="Banish">
			<main>Apollo's staff</main>
			<sub>Verse strap +1</sub>
			<neck>Stoicheion medal</neck>
			<lear>Hecate's earring</lear>
			<rear>Moldavite earring</rear>
			<body>Twilight Cloak</body>
			<hands>Eradico mitts</hands>
			<lring>Aquasoul Ring</lring>
			<rring>Aquasoul Ring</rring>
			<back>Romanus cape</back>
			<waist>Pythia sash +1</waist>
			<legs>Orison pantaloons +2</legs>
			<feet>Orison duckbills +1</feet>
			<ammo>Aqua Sachet</ammo>
		</set>

</group>

</sets>

<rules>
		<if spell="Autoset">
			<action type="equip" when="idle" set="Idle" />
			<action type="equip" when="resting" set="hMP" />
		</if>

		<if spell="Cure III|Cure IV|Curaga|Curaga II|Curaga III|Curaga IV|Curaga V|Cura|Cura II|Cura III">
			<action type=equip when=precast set="Fast cast" />
			<action type=equip when=midcast set="Cure4" />
			<action type=equip when=aftercast set="Idle" />
		</if>

		<if spell="Cure V|Cure VI">
			<action type=equip when=precast set="Fast cast" />
			<action type=equip when=midcast set="Cure5" />
			<action type=equip when=aftercast set="Idle" />
		</if>

		<if spell="Bar*|Auspice|Phalanx">
			<action type="aftercastdelay" delay="2" />
			<action type=equip when=precast set="Barspells" />
			<action type=equip when=aftercast set="Idle" />
		</if>

		<if spell="Boost*">
			<action type="aftercastdelay" delay="2" />
			<action type=equip when=precast set="Boosts" />
			<action type=equip when=aftercast set="Idle" />
		</if>
			
		<if spell="Stoneskin">
			<action type=equip when=precast set="Fast cast" />
			<action type=equip when=midcast set="Stoneskin" />
			<action type=equip when=aftercast set="Idle" />
		</if>
	
		<if spell="Slow|Paralyze|Repose">
			<action type=equip when=precast set="Fast cast" />
			<action type=equip when=midcast set="MND Enfeebles" />
			<action type=equip when=aftercast set="Idle" />
		</if>
	
		<if spell="Protectra V|Shellra V|Protect V|Shell V|Stun|Regen IV|Haste|Refresh|Blink|Aquaveil|Phalanx|Invisible|Sneak|Deodorize">
			<action type="aftercastdelay" delay="3" />
			<action type=equip when=precast set="Fast cast" />
			<action type=equip when=midcast set="Haste" />				
			<action type=equip when=aftercast set="Idle" />
		</if>

		<if spell="Poisona|Paralyna|Blindna|Stona|Viruna|Silena|Erase">
			<action type="aftercastdelay" delay="3" />
			<action type=equip when=precast set="Status Removal" />			
			<action type=equip when=aftercast set="Idle" />
		</if>


		<if spell="Regen III|Regen IV">
			<action type="aftercastdelay" delay="3" />
			<action type=equip when=precast set="Fast cast" />
			<action type=equip when=midcast set="Regen" />				
			<action type=equip when=aftercast set="Idle" />
		</if>

		<if spell="Banish|Banish II|Banish III|Banishga|Banishga II|Spirit Taker|Cataclysm">
			<action type=equip when=precast set="Fast cast" />
			<action type=equip when=midcast set="Banish" />				
			<action type=equip when=aftercast set="Idle" />
		</if>

		<if spell="Holy|Holy II">
			<action type=equip when=precast set="Banish" />				
			<action type=equip when=aftercast set="Idle" />
		</if>
		
</rules>
</spellcast>
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By Asura.Tamoa 2012-06-28 06:10:29
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Brb editing precure set since I can't into maths etc. ; ;
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By Asura.Tamoa 2012-06-28 06:11:46
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Siren.Sugarpanda said: »
Yeaaaaah, I think I am fine.
I didnt actually think about fast cast when I was looking at cure spell cast -...
Cos I have Witful Belt, Swith Cape and Loq.earring as well ...

I guess next thing I try to get is MND gear. My cure potency already is ott -.-

Anyone have a decent spellcast that I could abuse?

Healing magic skill gear > mnd gear.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-06-28 06:13:10
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I completely forgot that I use cure clogs aswell, hmm
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-06-28 06:14:25
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I suppose I'm at 79% without issues then >_>
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-06-28 06:15:28
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Shiiit I never even put Nares hat into mine. Oh well.
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By Asura.Tamoa 2012-06-28 06:21:25
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Added my stuff and found that I had 89% in total in my precast set lol... And I have had issues with cures going off before cure set equips, making me cure V for like 800hp and stuff, really annoying. Gonna sell my Aceso's Choker and Cure Clogs now!

@67% with my new precure set. That should be sufficient, right?
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-06-28 06:23:59
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People tend to forget how massive the -casting time from merits are :p
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By Asura.Tamoa 2012-06-28 06:25:55
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Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
People tend to forget how massive the -casting time from merits are :p

That, plus the bonus from light arts since it's not that long ago that I started subbing sch. :/

I'm happy though, just freed up 2 inv slots which is a good thing!
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-06-28 06:27:24
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But yeah, 67% should be enough, I highly doubt not capping it will ever kill someone.
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By Asura.Tamoa 2012-06-28 06:32:30
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I don't have Nares Cap yet either, once I get that I'll swap some other pieces around too, see if I can land on 70% in total.
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By Sylph.Binckry 2012-07-09 18:39:51
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I actually have a question about this. I'm at around 78%ish? in my precast. In my xml i have it set so I have a 0.8 delay before i swap on my cure gear in cures. It's been working fine till I got my Heka's Kalasiris. And then after that it's been weird where I keep Heka's on for cure instead of swapping to Bliaud +2. Is there a certain way I should set my cure rule to fix it? Should I get lower cure cast time or.. The one other thing I could think of was get the Nefer Khat to idle in that + Heka's, and it might fix the problem with swaps in cures? (Right now, idle in bliaud +2, precast in heka, then endcast in bliaud+2, which obviously isn't working from time to time. :| )
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By Asura.Izilder 2012-07-17 01:52:30
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Sylph.Binckry said: »
I actually have a question about this. I'm at around 78%ish? in my precast. In my xml i have it set so I have a 0.8 delay before i swap on my cure gear in cures. It's been working fine till I got my Heka's Kalasiris. And then after that it's been weird where I keep Heka's on for cure instead of swapping to Bliaud +2. Is there a certain way I should set my cure rule to fix it? Should I get lower cure cast time or.. The one other thing I could think of was get the Nefer Khat to idle in that + Heka's, and it might fix the problem with swaps in cures? (Right now, idle in bliaud +2, precast in heka, then endcast in bliaud+2, which obviously isn't working from time to time. :| )


yes im having the same issue - i put in a pre wait of 0.5 and now the body goes on perhaps 80 % time (for cure 4) but still having a bigger issue with 5+6s any other whm spell-casts have this issue and any work around?
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By Asura.Izilder 2012-07-17 02:39:51
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nvm fixed the problem.. note to all dont try and idle and midcast in the any of the same gear (like af3 body etc) it borks spellcast. I just changed the idle body and a few other idle items to mid cast and it works perfect.

but yeh now my idle set looks a little screwy lol.. all good if it gets cures working like they should
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By Phoenix.Seshat 2012-07-17 03:00:10
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Make a seperate cureprecast from your precast set. This is my precast for cures:

<main lock="True">Arka IV</main>
<feet>Cure Clogs</feet>
<legs>Orison Pantaloons +2</legs>
<body>Heka's Kalasiris</body>
<back>Swith Cape</back>

76% - staff locked for cure as I idle in Owleyes.

Regular precast:

<body>Anhur Robe</body>
<neck>Orison Locket</neck>
<lear>Loquac. Earring</lear>
<ammo>Incantor Stone</ammo>
<rring>Prolix Ring</rring>
<back>Swith Cape</back>
<head>Nares Cap</head>
<legs>Rubeus Spats</legs>
<feet>Rubeus Boots</feet>

Big difference.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-07-17 03:07:58
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Asura.Izilder said: »
nvm fixed the problem.. note to all dont try and idle and midcast in the any of the same gear (like af3 body etc) it borks spellcast. I just changed the idle body and a few other idle items to mid cast and it works perfect. but yeh now my idle set looks a little screwy lol.. all good if it gets cures working like they should

I made AF2+2 body just because of this.
Was having major issues with timing going from af3+2 -> precastbody -> af3+2, due to the gearswaps basicly happening too fast.
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By Ragnarok.Arcalimo 2012-07-17 03:37:10
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Asura.Izilder said: »
nvm fixed the problem.. note to all dont try and idle and midcast in the any of the same gear (like af3 body etc) it borks spellcast. I just changed the idle body and a few other idle items to mid cast and it works perfect.

but yeh now my idle set looks a little screwy lol.. all good if it gets cures working like they should

hmm.. that explains why my mule heals in nefer and my main in orison when the only difference in their xmls is that the main iddles in heka and the mule in orison <.<
Now i know what i have to do, thanks D;
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