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Kraken / Octave club question
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By fyreus 2012-05-13 18:09:12
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Are there still uses for a k.club these days? and if so, would getting an octave be worth the delevel? I'd like to finally be part of the club.
 
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-05-13 18:14:11
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fyreus said: »
Are there still uses for a k.club these days? and if so, would getting an octave be worth the delevel? I'd like to finally be part of the club.

I see what ya did thur..
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By GraddHelian 2012-05-13 18:17:37
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Not worth it for DRK in any way shape or form.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-05-13 18:19:29
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RNG only
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By Bahamut.Cantontai 2012-05-13 18:21:07
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
RNG only

I was under the impression it was still useful for WHM melee (have seen it recently offhanded with relic club in main hand)? Is that no longer correct?
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2012-05-13 18:25:56
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WHM melee is pretty useful in nyzul where you don't invite a WHM, legion where you don't zone into, and VW where everything aoe 1 shots/silences/amnesias/terrors/stuns everyone every 3 seconds.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-05-13 18:28:28
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Useful to RNG and WHM only, I could see a melee WHM working fine on any fodder content. I wouldn't exclude it completely.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-05-13 18:30:02
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Didn't include WHM for this reason:

Sylph.Kiaru said: »
WHM melee is pretty useful in nyzul where you don't invite a WHM, legion where you don't zone into, and VW where everything aoe 1 shots/silences/amnesias/terrors/stuns everyone every 3 seconds.

+Dynamis, but you don't need a Kraken Club to make use of Mystic Boon.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-05-13 18:32:45
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It's also really nice for WS trials on 1H relics or breaking weapons. D:
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By Valefor.Endoq 2012-05-13 18:33:24
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i have a KC and only really find it useful on BST/DNC and sometimes when im solo farming for synth mats on THF/DNC, basically its great for subbing DNC but not much else. i play on BST 90% of the time so for me it was a good investment and i would never sell it.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-05-13 18:37:37
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I only see folks off-hand k club on bst for dyna. Just my personal experience on my server.
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By Sylph.Loluded 2012-05-13 23:04:06
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fyreus said: »
Are there still uses for a k.club these days? and if so, would getting an octave be worth the delevel? I'd like to finally be part of the club.

Don't even bother trying to get Octave Club unless you just really want to have it and play around with it on your DRK for no reason, then be my guest and go ahead and do that.

As for KC, I agree it's really only useful for RNG for most part. And KC DRK aren't useful right now at this moment and I highly doubt that it'll be useful in the future.

Lately, I've been seeing FULL PERLE BSTS offhanding KC.. FFFFFFUUUUUUU /facepalms
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By Sylph.Sagiaurex 2012-05-14 00:16:53
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Sylph.Loluded said: »
fyreus said: »
Are there still uses for a k.club these days? and if so, would getting an octave be worth the delevel? I'd like to finally be part of the club.

Don't even bother trying to get Octave Club unless you just really want to have it and play around with it on your DRK for no reason, then be my guest and go ahead and do that.

As for KC, I agree it's really only useful for RNG for most part. And KC DRK aren't useful right now at this moment and I highly doubt that it'll be useful in the future.

Lately, I've been seeing FULL PERLE BSTS offhanding KC.. FFFFFFUUUUUUU /facepalms

...Wat 8|
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By Siren.Fupafighters 2012-05-14 00:21:33
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You guys should try ws proc camps with like thf/dnc offhand kklub lol. No competition. I do it with sam quint spear.
IN dynamis.
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-05-14 00:23:29
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What's your average haul?
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By Bahamut.Cantontai 2012-05-14 00:44:19
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I don't want to derail this thread (but also don't want to start new one) so... does Ridill have any use for anything at all anymore?
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-05-14 00:45:36
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Bahamut.Cantontai said: »
I don't want to derail this thread (but also don't want to start new one) so... does Ridill have any use for anything at all anymore?

same crap but limited to only bst/thf for dyna WS spamming.
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By Siren.Fupafighters 2012-05-14 00:46:13
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Sam/dnc isnt bad if you just stardiver zerg it down. Soloed almost 200, but didnt do it again. Next run I did sam/thf with a whm dual box. Got almost 300. Then next day I went sam/thf drg no sub and whm, got almost 500. All easy preys. I just find it nice because noone bugs me at my weaponskill camps lol :) Going to try doing sam/no sub drg/thf drg/no sub and whm/sch soon. ALl quint. Keep in mind my sam rocks haste cap 5 hit with quint.
 
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-05-14 00:55:36
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Josiahkf said: »
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
Sam/dnc isnt bad if you just stardiver zerg it down. Soloed almost 200, but didnt do it again. Next run I did sam/thf with a whm dual box. Got almost 300. Then next day I went sam/thf drg no sub and whm, got almost 500. All easy preys. I just find it nice because noone bugs me at my weaponskill camps lol :) Going to try doing sam/no sub drg/thf drg/no sub and whm/sch soon. ALl quint. Keep in mind my sam rocks haste cap 5 hit with quint.
what's ws rate of proc, like 50% compared to 20% ja and 5% ma?

more like 30%. I do WS mobs on pup/thf with auto procs (they count as WS)
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By Ragnarok.Gunit 2012-05-14 01:08:12
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I use my Octave club for procing club in abyssea/VW, it still OA3times at 99. Can't think of any other real use for it.
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By Siren.Fupafighters 2012-05-14 01:11:13
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From my understanding, its 15% for ws procs. If not, please link me to a page where I can check that 30% out. 30% is high lol. I sometimes go 0/10+ on one monster for ws procs. The best I have found for quint spear, is to spam penta. If it dies by the time you kill it with penta, with a damn quint spear, it wasn't procing, and you are just wasting time lol. In EP camps, there are more than enough mobs lol. I'll let you guys know how we average on 100s the next couple days though lol, going with 2 people locked subs.
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-05-14 01:26:29
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Ragnarok.Gunit said: »
I use my Octave club for procing club in abyssea/VW, it still OA3times at 99. Can't think of any other real use for it.
That's odd I thought it was only:
Occasionally attacks twice if level is a multiple of 2.
Occasionally attacks 2 to 8 times if level is a multiple of 8.

Is it also Occasionally attacks thrice if level is a multiple of 3?
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-05-14 01:28:52
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Oh that was more an estimate, as in way lower than 50%. Sorry.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Khrnos 2012-05-14 02:21:35
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It's super fun to play with on PLD. Enlight + Kclub does some really good DoT plus spamming Realmrazer does some good damage. Can PLD/DNC and dual wield Almace + K club and spam CDC or K club + Aegis and be near invincible in ballista, if anyone still does it.
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By fyreus 2012-05-14 14:46:52
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Did they apply a SE nerf to anything else that matters endgame? I remember kraken drks littered the game back at 75 until nyzul came along.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Scwall 2012-05-14 15:13:50
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Ragnarok.Gunit said: »
I use my Octave club for procing club in abyssea/VW, it still OA3times at 99. Can't think of any other real use for it.

Atma of the Apocalypse.

Octave will never attack 3 times unless you have triple attack or your level is divisible by 8.
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