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How's my Evasion build?
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By Carbuncle.Kaelthas 2012-04-20 13:59:09
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Hi guys, i'd like some feedback on how my build is and if I could improve it by swapping out pieces for different ones.

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The 2 Shikargars have AGI+11 Evasion +22
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By Sidiov 2012-04-20 14:03:35
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well if you just going hardcore eva, you could get Fugacity Mantle.

And SH+1 !! lol.
 
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By Siren.Seiri 2012-04-20 14:19:12
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Believe thats the highest pure eva possible, however..

Mirke with eva/fast cast is more ideal in many situations.

Boxers is more useful than fuga if u have capped parry.

Krousis ring/+1 can get eva and agi augments from fields of valour, highest i've seen on either was eva+5, agi+1 on a NQ of mine, which would take the second ring slot over stormsoul.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2012-04-20 14:26:57
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Parry isn't useful so not really no.
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By Asura.Isiolia 2012-04-20 14:47:20
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You could potentially save an inventory slot by using Kacura+1 feet instead of AF+1, if you're already carrying them for WS/etc.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2012-04-20 14:48:10
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Failing to see where a pure EVA build would be better than a hybrid EVA/DD build.
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By Asura.Hotsoups 2012-04-20 14:55:26
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Ramuh.Laffter said: »
Failing to see where a pure EVA build would be better than a hybrid EVA/DD build.

Turning and waiting for procs, and kiting!

For example, once while waiting for someone to change jobs to proc blue on Alfard, I hit it with Blade: Kamu threw on the evasion set and got myself a soda. Came back, and had 1 shadow left! :D
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-04-20 14:57:11
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EVASION SKILL IS BETTER THAN EVASION!!!


*runs away from foodfight*
 
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By Kieron 2012-04-20 15:15:17
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(Haste +23%) (Main: Almace / Offhand: Shikargar 'Wind')

input /equip body "Mirke Wardecors"
input /equip legs "Ocelot Trousers"
input /equip feet "Athos's boots"
input /equip hands "Ocelot Gloves"
input /equip head "Ocelomeh Headpiece +1"
input /equip ear1 "Suppanomimi"
input /equip ear2 "Brutal Earring"
input /equip ring1 "Epona's Ring"
input /equip ring2 "Alert Ring"
input /equip waist "Phasmida Belt"
input /equip back "Fugacity Mantle"
input /equip neck "Torero Torque"
input /echo --BLU EVA--
(Around 105 eva)
This is my macro for my hybrid eva build. I'd use full eva for emergency situations (both utsu timers are down) or in anticipation of a large pull in dynamis and I have to use dream flower.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-04-20 17:07:56
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
EVASION SKILL IS BETTER THAN EVASION!!!


*runs away from foodfight*
I realize you're just *** around, but it couldn't hurt to mention that it's been shown that 1 skill = 0.9 evasion and thus the opposite is true.
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Ramuh.Laffter said: »
Failing to see where a pure EVA build would be better than a hybrid EVA/DD build.

Turning and waiting for procs, and kiting!
Only if you assume your evasion rate isn't capped with the hybrid set. Not too many places where that applies these days, even for BLU.

Definitely recommend a hybrid set. Something along the lines of what Kieron posted with the idea of eventually looking something like this:



25% haste with ~81 evasion (including AGI) in non-weapon slots (could add an AGI offhand), 21 Subtle Blow, and a nice chunk of AGI to increase dAGI and minimize TP fed. YMMV on things like Heed or Rajas vs Alert Ring.
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By Siren.Seiri 2012-04-20 18:01:34
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Josiahkf said: »
Siren.Seiri said: »


Believe thats the highest pure eva possible, however..

Mirke with eva/fast cast is more ideal in many situations.

Boxers is more useful than fuga if u have capped parry.

Krousis ring/+1 can get eva and agi augments from fields of valour, highest i've seen on either was eva+5, agi+1 on a NQ of mine, which would take the second ring slot over stormsoul.
the only upgrade in this theoretical set that comes to mind is Portus Annulet and get rid of the stormsoul

Crap forgot that. Lol.

Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
EVASION SKILL IS BETTER THAN EVASION!!!


*runs away from foodfight*
I realize you're just *** around, but it couldn't hurt to mention that it's been shown that 1 skill = 0.9 evasion and thus the opposite is true.
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Ramuh.Laffter said: »
Failing to see where a pure EVA build would be better than a hybrid EVA/DD build.

Turning and waiting for procs, and kiting!
Only if you assume your evasion rate isn't capped with the hybrid set. Not too many places where that applies these days, even for BLU.

Definitely recommend a hybrid set. Something along the lines of what Kieron posted with the idea of eventually looking something like this:



25% haste with ~81 evasion (including AGI) in non-weapon slots (could add an AGI offhand), 21 Subtle Blow, and a nice chunk of AGI to increase dAGI and minimize TP fed. YMMV on things like Heed or Rajas vs Alert Ring.

Opinions on athos vs mirke for hybrid? 2.5 eva vs 5/2.5% FC.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-04-20 18:02:27
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Swap mirke for casting only?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-04-20 18:08:27
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Athos is a straight upgrade for both mitigation (more eva, more AGI) and offensive output (lolacc, DEX, critdmg+5%, critrate+3% with feet). Mirke's fast cast is still useful, but it's definitely not the better eva piece.
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By Siren.Seiri 2012-04-20 18:09:04
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Swap mirke for casting only?

IMO if you're in a hybrid eva setup its usually for utsu. Situational is situational i know but lol.
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By Siren.Seiri 2012-04-20 18:09:52
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Athos is a straight upgrade for both mitigation (more eva, more AGI) and offensive output (lolacc, DEX, critdmg+5%, critrate+3% with feet). Mirke's fast cast is still useful, but it's definitely not the better eva piece.

Obviously for mitigation, but the opinion was what i was after. Ty.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2012-04-20 18:11:47
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I wasted trophies on Mederi Talar for Fast cast, sadly did not get the body from Bot Rex.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-04-20 18:14:19
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Siren.Seiri said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Swap mirke for casting only?

IMO if you're in a hybrid eva setup its usually for utsu. Situational is situational i know but lol.
Eh, if it's Utsu then a lot of things change tbh given different priorities for precast vs midcast, and neither of my utsu-eva sets match my hybrid TP set. I do get some use out of my hybrid set for TPing, but that obviously comes down to what you do and how you do it.
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