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 Bismarck.Klimzar
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By Bismarck.Klimzar 2012-03-30 11:38:07
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anyone done any real testing w/ this scythe yet?

from what i've tested i got an extra 3 tp from 1st hit not sure after that, but here's what i got

Twilight Scythe - 16tp non crit and 56 tp after a Triple Attack
Nirastamo - 19 tp w/ crit and haven't gotten 3 crits in a row yet

i know, it's not much for testing, any other info would help others as well as myself, thx :)
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-03-30 11:45:22
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If you normally get 16 tp back per hit with Twilight scythe then a triple attack should give 48 not 56 unless I'm missing something.

As for Nirastamo I doubt it will be worth loosing Reso for unless the tp on Crit is just massive.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-03-30 11:48:26
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You should probably use scythes with the same delay for your testing.
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By Bismarck.Klimzar 2012-03-30 11:48:50
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i was /sam and prolly forgot to swap weapons after first swing

i'll be trying again shortly w/ same delay scythes
(yes, i know i'm horrible at this whole testing thing)

edit: ok this is harder than i thought, i'll just leave it to the pro's ._.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-03-30 12:11:04
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If you want crits, you can always go into abyssea and use Razed Ruins. Just don't grab any regain atmas. Use two scythes of the same delay, and see the tp return for a single hit for both of them. I would recommend no STP at all to make calculations easier on yourself.
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-03-30 12:12:43
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I'll help you with the testing if you want.
how much stp+ do you have in your current gear set not counting /sam?
 
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2012-03-30 12:18:18
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Drk/Thf, naked with just the scythe, use Sneak Attack.
Normal TP gain from a 528 delay weapon would be 14.4.
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-03-30 12:18:29
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Shouldn't even need another scythe of the same delay.
Tp return is a simple thing to figure out just need the delay and stp...
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By Bismarck.Klimzar 2012-03-30 12:23:09
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just /sam atm thats all the stp i have, the two scythes i was usin now are niras/woeborn

edit: and 5 stp on my ace's leggings
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-03-30 12:37:48
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Ok your base tp returns with /sam will be 16.5 rounded down to 16. Now equip all the crit rate+ atmas and hit something with the scythe. Take 16 away and that's how much the added effect gives. If you could please do this at least 10 times and bring your tp returns back here.

Don't worry about the Woeborn non needed step not sure why so many people advised that.

Edit: Take the aces leggings off also the hands if you use them.
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By Bismarck.Klimzar 2012-03-30 12:54:27
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was getting 18-21tp per single crit
got 56tp on a triple attack (2 crit, 1 non-crit)

edit: it's looking like it add about 3tp for a crit hit, but i don't know if the 'Increase amount of TP gained when landing critical hits' accumulates as you land more crits in a row, or if it's just a static 3tp/hit
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-03-30 12:58:04
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Bismarck.Klimzar said: »
was getting 18-21tp per single crit
got 56tp on a triple attack (2 crit, 1 non-crit)
So it adds a small un static amount from your testing I would like to do some more testing myself but lack the scythe or Drk for that matter.

2-5 tp on a crit is not game breaking and will not over throw Reso or twilight scythe when physical shields are up.

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Bismarck.Klimzar said: »
edit: it's looking like it add about 3tp for a crit hit, but i don't know if the 'Increase amount of TP gained when landing critical hits' accumulates as you land more crits in a row, or if it's just a static 3tp/hit
If you had tp returns of 18-21 that's 2-5 more tp than normal so it being a static amount is out. Did it start at 18 and rise or did you start at 21 and then fluctuate?
 
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By Bismarck.Klimzar 2012-03-30 13:00:44
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Shiva.Galbir said: »
Bismarck.Klimzar said: »
was getting 18-21tp per single crit
got 56tp on a triple attack (2 crit, 1 non-crit)
So it adds a small un static amount from your testing I would like to do some more testing myself but lack the scythe or Drk for that matter.

2-5 tp on a crit is not game breaking and will not over throw Reso or twilight scythe when physical shields are up.

well thx for helping me do some testing
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2012-03-30 16:53:58
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Seems like a solid Scythe though STR/INT/Attack on it. It's a step in the right direction for entropy. Biggest downside is maybe -7 DMG compared to Wroth. :/

I would love it if BST could use this <_>;

For Entropy it may come out ahead over 7 DMG though right? I wasn't sure because of the 100% Mod. But it isn't like comparing it to a STR mod though.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-03-30 17:05:07
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It's a really good scythe from the AH atleast! :D
Good replacement for all those DRKs still using Twilight scythe fulltime (and refusing to use a great sword, for some reason)
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2012-03-30 17:34:10
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Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
It's a really good scythe from the AH atleast! :D
Good replacement for all those DRKs still using Twilight scythe fulltime (and refusing to use a great sword, for some reason)


Been using Wroth scythe every now and then but I have OaT GS. Just want to remain flexible. Plus its fun as hell spamming entropy bst/sam. Not very practical but if I'm soloing screw what people think <_>
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