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whats better? (4 torcleaver)
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I'm 24. Simply just not familiar with the horrible garbage Disney has pumped out over the last decade. I got love for the classic movies though.
Shiva.Paranoid said: » I'm 24. Simply just not up to date with the horrible garbage Disney has pumped out over the last decade. I got love for the classic movies though. Shiva.Paranoid
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Nah. Robin Hood era is as far as I'll go.
Furries ruined Robin Hood for me.
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Adventurers of Ichabod & Mr. Toad is my personal favorite. Didn't get the recognition it deserved
I ... actually haven't see that.
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so...whats better 4 torcleaver?
Karieyh Brayettes or ogier's legs? Karieyh Sollerets or dilarams feet?(i assume these are now useless?) My money is on Karieyh for certain on legs. The added 16 str and vit should be more than enough to top an extra 3% ws damage. As for the feet, it's iffy, if the Karieyh are better, it's probably by a small margain. This is of course just eyeballing. Someone else can do the spreadsheet math.
The Karieyh Feet would definetly be better. Higher mods and acc will put a huge pat on the back of Calad when bringing down the pain.
Fenrir.Calamity said: » My money is on Karieyh for certain on legs. The added 16 str and vit should be more than enough to top an extra 3% ws damage. As for the feet, it's iffy, if the Karieyh are better, it's probably by a small margain. This is of course just eyeballing. Someone else can do the spreadsheet math. STR+8 DEX+8 VIT+8 AGI+8 Attack+16 crit rate-8% vs Karieyh STR+11 DEX+11 VIT+11 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 "Store TP"+5 The only thing you "lose" is 6atk. The gain is 3str/dex/vit (plus 10acc and 5stp). The 3str brings the 10atk to 12atk. So trading 4atk and 8agi for 10acc, 3str/3vit/3dex, and 5stp. I don't think even with the new DEF adjustment that you'd fight something where the 4atk would be missed. [Edited; thanks Seiri] Carbuncle.Sanders said: » Fenrir.Calamity said: » My money is on Karieyh for certain on legs. The added 16 str and vit should be more than enough to top an extra 3% ws damage. As for the feet, it's iffy, if the Karieyh are better, it's probably by a small margain. This is of course just eyeballing. Someone else can do the spreadsheet math. STR+8 DEX+8 VIT+8 AGI+8 Attack+16 crit rate-8% vs Karieyh STR+11 DEX+11 VIT+11 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 "Store TP"+5 The only thing you "lose" is 6atk. The gain is 3str/dex/vit (plus 10acc and 5stp). The 3str brings the 10atk to 11.5atk. So trading 4.5atk and 8agi for 10acc, 3str/3vit/3dex, and 5stp. I don't think even with the new DEF adjustment that you'd fight something where the 4.5atk would be missed. ^ This. People still thinking the defense changes affected player damage output? Wtf?
Unless somebody forgot DRK is a 2-handed job... Asura.Thannatos said: » Carbuncle.Sanders said: » Fenrir.Calamity said: » My money is on Karieyh for certain on legs. The added 16 str and vit should be more than enough to top an extra 3% ws damage. As for the feet, it's iffy, if the Karieyh are better, it's probably by a small margain. This is of course just eyeballing. Someone else can do the spreadsheet math. STR+8 DEX+8 VIT+8 AGI+8 Attack+16 crit rate-8% vs Karieyh STR+11 DEX+11 VIT+11 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 "Store TP"+5 The only thing you "lose" is 6atk. The gain is 3str/dex/vit (plus 10acc and 5stp). The 3str brings the 10atk to 11.5atk. So trading 4.5atk and 8agi for 10acc, 3str/3vit/3dex, and 5stp. I don't think even with the new DEF adjustment that you'd fight something where the 4.5atk would be missed. ^ This. This idea is sound, but a slight mistake. 2h weapons get 2 attack from 3 str, so 10 attack becomes 12 attack. That 3 str is also likely a boost in fSTR. I can't find where I read it but I was under the impression that 1-hand was 2.0 before and 2-hand was 2.5 and that they would now both be 2.25.
Ragnarok.Ashman said: » I can't find where I read it but I was under the impression that 1-hand was 2.0 before and 2-hand was 2.5 and that they would now both be 2.25. Alternatively: No one-handed job is gonna be reaching that cap, so the attack is always relevant anyway. Particularly since this is only gonna be BST or PLD when talking about Karieyh, but then you have multihit WS and an accuracy need over 4.5 attack, so Kariyeh wins anyway. More the wtf factor that someone out there thought this changed anything for DRK. Siren.Seiri said: » Asura.Thannatos said: » Carbuncle.Sanders said: » Fenrir.Calamity said: » My money is on Karieyh for certain on legs. The added 16 str and vit should be more than enough to top an extra 3% ws damage. As for the feet, it's iffy, if the Karieyh are better, it's probably by a small margain. This is of course just eyeballing. Someone else can do the spreadsheet math. STR+8 DEX+8 VIT+8 AGI+8 Attack+16 crit rate-8% vs Karieyh STR+11 DEX+11 VIT+11 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 "Store TP"+5 The only thing you "lose" is 6atk. The gain is 3str/dex/vit (plus 10acc and 5stp). The 3str brings the 10atk to 11.5atk. So trading 4.5atk and 8agi for 10acc, 3str/3vit/3dex, and 5stp. I don't think even with the new DEF adjustment that you'd fight something where the 4.5atk would be missed. ^ This. This idea is sound, but a slight mistake. 2h weapons get 2 attack from 3 str, so 10 attack becomes 12 attack. That 3 str is also likely a boost in fSTR. Lol, thanks very much. Checked myself before posting and still messed it up. Edited. Carbuncle.Sanders said: » Fenrir.Calamity said: » My money is on Karieyh for certain on legs. The added 16 str and vit should be more than enough to top an extra 3% ws damage. As for the feet, it's iffy, if the Karieyh are better, it's probably by a small margain. This is of course just eyeballing. Someone else can do the spreadsheet math. STR+8 DEX+8 VIT+8 AGI+8 Attack+16 crit rate-8% vs Karieyh STR+11 DEX+11 VIT+11 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 "Store TP"+5 The only thing you "lose" is 6atk. The gain is 3str/dex/vit (plus 10acc and 5stp). The 3str brings the 10atk to 12atk. So trading 4atk and 8agi for 10acc, 3str/3vit/3dex, and 5stp. I don't think even with the new DEF adjustment that you'd fight something where the 4atk would be missed. [Edited; thanks Seiri] You can't help but have a "what's good for torcleaver" question bleed into "what's good for DRK." And while these new feet are mild for torc, just get them. It's easy. Especially if you don't have dilaram's for some reason, since those are a random VW drop. It's just a no-brainer.
Well for torc, what's better? For how ridiculously easy they are to get, what else is worth getting atm? 3 VIT is usually 2 base dmg, then 1 more usually from 3 str for fSTR. 3 damage vs 6 atk.
Bottom line, for torcleaver, these are better by a very small margin, but worth getting either way for their usefulness in reso. So yes. Get them.
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thanks for your responses. planned on getting both for reso, wasn't sure about torc. just kinda disappointing considering how rare vw stuff was and how easy bayld is. but i guess that's not a bummer for those that were never able to get the vw drops
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is drachenhorn a huge down grade from mekira-oto+1 for reso? im broke and lazy, thinking of selling since Quauhpilli helm will eventually be accessible. i dont usually pay much attention to days of the week. thoughts?
I wouldn't rush things until we know just how accessible it is.
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i just neeeed plates, dross done. figure it will be more worth it to finish caladbolg asap. can buy back mekira later
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