02-21-2012 02:20 PM
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| Impetus and Tantra Cyclas +2 There was a short comment from Mizuki Ito mentioning that they were looking into whether or not the augmented Impetus effect on Tantra Cyclas +2 needed to be revamped. This caught the interest of some Japanese players and Ito responded a bit more in-depth.
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[Dev] Impetus And Tantra Cyclas +2
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[Dev] Impetus and Tantra Cyclas +2
Impetus is not the reason MNKs are "essential for all content".. what the hell is SE smoking..
I had no idea monks were needed for everything....
Lakshmi.Eyrhika said: »
Impetus is not the reason MNKs are "essential for all content".. what the hell is SE smoking..
Monks arent essential for all content >.>
Quote:
As a result of preserving this power, we are concerned about the below conditions arising.
Excessive power inflation
Necessity of a monk for everything, as well as situations where “as long as there is a monk other jobs are not needed”.
Example, (like Abyssea) situations where monks can be selected for content since they are able to tank full time.
Excessive power inflation
Necessity of a monk for everything, as well as situations where “as long as there is a monk other jobs are not needed”.
Example, (like Abyssea) situations where monks can be selected for content since they are able to tank full time.
but seriously how many people hit 50 times in a row before ws?
Quetzalcoatl.Milliniar said: »
but seriously how many people hit 50 times in a row before ws?
Considering it takes perfect gear/luck to win a parse on MNK on T6 stuff when playing with good players, I would venture to say Impetus in its current form is a necessity for MNK to be relevant.
But this is SE.
But this is SE.
So... "winning a parse" is the only key to relevancy? That only the absolute very pinnacle of player ability is acceptable?
Please, teach me to be like you!
But really, I think it's cool to hear this. I thought for sure that something would happen to impetus as soon as the bloodrage stuff came out. But, too, their monitoring it, soooo... not outta the woods yet, I guess!
Please, teach me to be like you!
But really, I think it's cool to hear this. I thought for sure that something would happen to impetus as soon as the bloodrage stuff came out. But, too, their monitoring it, soooo... not outta the woods yet, I guess!
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Performing well in a parse is relevant to being DD. If you aren't doing well on a parse as a DD, you aren't carrying your weight most likely. I won't say failing to win a parse makes you bad. As long as the winner didn't beat you by a huge margin, that would be good enough for me.
Hey, I'm sorry. It's every individuals 12.95 or whatever. And I may have misunderstood what he meant. I still disagree, though. I do think that absolute max damage output at all times is a very narrow view of any dd job. That being said, I'm also not here trying to defend my damage output - I do just fine, thanks.
And obviously "performing well" is necessary. "Winning" sometimes is, sometimes isn't.
And obviously "performing well" is necessary. "Winning" sometimes is, sometimes isn't.
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Parsing is nice, but I really only see it being a reliable source of information if every DD'er is fighting at the same time.
There are situations where you have to back off, or use WS's that are weak just to proc. During these situations a parse can't show us what the person was doing, and why they aren't doing as much damage as another job. There are times when a single DD'er is on the enemy, wouldn't that throw off an accurate parse?
I'm no DD'er, but to me it sounds like parsing does not favor current content. When legion comes around it will for sure though.
There are situations where you have to back off, or use WS's that are weak just to proc. During these situations a parse can't show us what the person was doing, and why they aren't doing as much damage as another job. There are times when a single DD'er is on the enemy, wouldn't that throw off an accurate parse?
I'm no DD'er, but to me it sounds like parsing does not favor current content. When legion comes around it will for sure though.
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'Example, (like Abyssea) situations where monks can be selected for content since they are able to tank full time.'
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Ninja
War
described by the above
This is when you know SE has no idea wtf is going on inside the game
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Ninja
War
described by the above
This is when you know SE has no idea wtf is going on inside the game
Fenrir.Terminus said: »
Hey, I'm sorry. It's every individuals 12.95 or whatever. And I may have misunderstood what he meant. I still disagree, though. I do think that absolute max damage output at all times is a very narrow view of any dd job. And obviously "performing well" is necessary. "Winning" sometimes is, sometimes isn't.
^this I agree with.
But I think some of the "Parse Nazis" are mobilizing now. Look out!! lol
Bismarck.Pawnskipper said: »
Fenrir.Terminus said: »
Hey, I'm sorry. It's every individuals 12.95 or whatever. And I may have misunderstood what he meant. I still disagree, though. I do think that absolute max damage output at all times is a very narrow view of any dd job. And obviously "performing well" is necessary. "Winning" sometimes is, sometimes isn't.
^this I agree with.
But I think some of the "Parse Nazis" are mobilizing now. Look out!! lol
{Run Away!}
Fenrir.Terminus said: »
Hey, I'm sorry. It's every individuals 12.95 or whatever. And I may have misunderstood what he meant. I still disagree, though. I do think that absolute max damage output at all times is a very narrow view of any dd job. That being said, I'm also not here trying to defend my damage output - I do just fine, thanks.
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Fenrir.Terminus said: »
Hey, I'm sorry. It's every individuals 12.95 or whatever. And I may have misunderstood what he meant. I still disagree, though. I do think that absolute max damage output at all times is a very narrow view of any dd job. That being said, I'm also not here trying to defend my damage output - I do just fine, thanks.
And obviously "performing well" is necessary. "Winning" sometimes is, sometimes isn't.
And obviously "performing well" is necessary. "Winning" sometimes is, sometimes isn't.
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If the argument is "Having a MNK is required" so "we are looking at reducing the effect of Impetus/TT+2" then yes, the ability to win a parse is relevant. As I said, it takes perfect gear and luck (as parses in a vacuum are not entirely accurate) to win/come close to winning a parse on T6 mobs on MNK. That would indicate that not only is MNK not required, but that without Impetus/TT+2 bonus you are probably never going to see yourself at the top again.
This is ignoring the fact that this is a logical conclusion to a statement, and also ignoring that if content was being achieved because of MNK (it's not) then making MNK worse wouldn't really benefit anyone, hence --> SE being SE.
As far as DD's and winning parses, that's the only way you should be playing. That's why T6 parties are formed through list invitation and not risked through shout parties.
This is ignoring the fact that this is a logical conclusion to a statement, and also ignoring that if content was being achieved because of MNK (it's not) then making MNK worse wouldn't really benefit anyone, hence --> SE being SE.
As far as DD's and winning parses, that's the only way you should be playing. That's why T6 parties are formed through list invitation and not risked through shout parties.
If they are wanting to implement changes that will prevent mnk from becoming an overpowered tank... They need a time machine.
Asura.Arkanethered said: »
If they are wanting to implement changes that will prevent mnk from becoming an overpowered tank... They need a time machine.
or nerf counterstance...
Easy solution. Go play SAM. You will never get nerfed.
Fenrir.Terminus said: »
Hey, I'm sorry. It's every individuals 12.95 or whatever. And I may have misunderstood what he meant. I still disagree, though. I do think that absolute max damage output at all times is a very narrow view of any dd job. That being said, I'm also not here trying to defend my damage output - I do just fine, thanks.
And obviously "performing well" is necessary. "Winning" sometimes is, sometimes isn't.
And obviously "performing well" is necessary. "Winning" sometimes is, sometimes isn't.
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Fenrir.Terminus said: »
I do think that absolute max damage output at all times is a very narrow view of any dd job.
why bother playing a DD then? "its my 12.95" isnt a valid justification to suck.
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Pretty soon DNC and SAM will be the only jobs left.
Edit: and BLU, WHM.
Edit: and BLU, WHM.
Really? lol mnks aren't getting shanked enough? I haven't heard a thing about nerfing resolution or Shoha, but they want to keep making it harder for people that took the time to get the good stuff... Makes no sense...Not every monk has verethregna and perfect gear to accomplish this so called 50% cap....
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Well I have a 90 verethregna and the gear to back it up...Stop nerfing my ***SE lol. Sylow...thank god my 2 main jobs are dnc and sam :P
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Can we get through one update without nerfing something?
Please?
Please?
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